@amicusets: Do you realize how polls work, and how they decide which demographics voted which way? If you don't then you probably quit trying to use "demographics" as an argument for why you think only stupid people voted for Trump. I did NOT mean Korea. I was repeating Rep. Waters's claims. So, you are a constitutional law expert, that thinks the EO was unconstitutional? What brings you to that conclusion considering I have yet to read a single expert opinion that thinks that. For one thing, the constitutionality has yet to be argued in any court, and if you are referencing CA9's decision not to stay the TRO, I would like to remind you that CA9 is consistently one of the tope 2 circuits overturned by the SCOTUS, but please, enlighten us all on the constitutional law that you are apparently more versed in than the vast majority of experts in the field. Demographics do not change based upon polls, polls that sample populations can. This is extremely basic statistics… If you do not understand the difference, I can not help you. Okay, I see what you're saying but; you can't mix quotations and your own statements and be credible. The quote was "And the fact that he is wrapping his arms around Putin while Putin is continuing to advance into Korea." Your failure to either quote the (potentially) misspoken statement or indicate the statement was misspoken is your responsibility, I read what you wrote. Your statement is just as incorrect as the statement Maxine Waters made. Also, you accusing somebody of being ignorant when you fail to use quotations properly is comical… Since you didn't quote her, you just made the same mistake. I don't even understand why you would bring this up when Donald has said things like: "Because I was down there and I watched our police and our firemen down at 7/11, down at the World Trade Center right after it came down. And I saw the greatest people I've ever seen in action." Not to mention, that he has repeatedly made up words and don't even get me started on Sean Spicer, who is probably going to be out a job soon, or Kellyanne Conway referring to nonexistent terrorist attacks. If you want to argue they are all ignorant, sure I completely agree. Something tells me you didn't think your argument through very carefully. 3)It appears you have not read the ruling, I suggest you go read the ruling yourself: https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/02/09/17-35105.pdf I'll remind you that "the opinions you have read" do not represent all opinions and there were certainly many who did not agree, but I realize, Googling the information would require you to leave your comfort zone, which you obviously have no plans on doing. It's unlikely that SCOTUS would even hear the case. The solution is quantification, it's easy to evaluate the legality of a binary order. An order of the same effect be easily achieved by dramatic restrictions and reductions. Trump should give up (sounds like he is) and rewrite the order, preferably into separate orders. I'm totally for restricting the flow of migrants from countries in the middle east, which is where the majority of the terrorists are and have historically come from. Cherry picking out a handful of countries and then blaming Obama is not how that should have been handled. I think people know Obama isn't the president anymore. The US is going to be in a bad situation in a decade when companies like Google automate cars and basically everything else. I think it's a wonderful idea to start to limiting immigration now before the job market gets completely taken over by robots. If you think the percentage of people not participating in the job market is high now, just wait… https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 I hope you understand that the unemployment numbers are complete horseshit... This is a real issue... Immigration needs to get heavily restricted across the board and the illegals need to go... This Muslim crap is a total distraction from what needs to happen.

@aadam101: She has been banned from Morning Joe now too.  I haven't seen her on TV much this week.  I would hope the Trump administration is smart enough to never let Stephen Miller on TV again. And get who? Alex Jones? Edit: I was going to say, at some point the Republicans might want to reconsider their pro assault rifle stance. You know, liberals can buy them too … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzeTZSEesXY

not all countries allow same sex marriage in fact only few countries allow it.

I love me some Drew Barrymore but I don't know about this, I get she's playing zombie but maybe just too well.

Thanks for the reco- I'm always up to try a new Netflix series. This one slipped past me. I got into Santa Clarita Diet first.

@YoungGun: alol biased much?  I was simply posting on a quick google research about the topic not trying to make some political point.  I cited a source and you didn't.  I never said these online articles were incredibly vetted facts or examples of statistical perfection.  Let's try to have a civil conversation instead of resorting to partisan mudslinging k?  Also if you read my other post, I already said that California seceding would be bad for California and the USA, so stop assuming too much just because I'm bringing up ideas outside your current opinions.  Sheesh. As for your claims on meats and grains, where did you get that idea?  A simple google search seems to indicate that California has no such deficit on those areas. Defensive much? Partisan mudslinging? lol.  I just wanted to see if anyone would dare to post some data (good data) that validated their claims.  You did…but still you need to learn to choose your sources carefully. And of course I don't need to give a source, since I'm not stating facts.  It's just my opinion. And our conversation was being pretty civil, better than at least the name callings and whatnots that are slung in this particular subforum. And I'm from Mexico, so I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican. (Mexico taking Cali in? LOL I bet that if Mexico dared to propose that, California would freak out and cease with their secession idea)

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Only half wit pussies thumb down someone with a full functioning brain. Nuff said.

Because in the United States, copyright trolls have nothing better to do than to needlessly harass people, even if it's over something that they distribute for free anyway lol

It's just a saying here in the US when you're not good with words. I'm more concerned, that part of his speech were direct quotes from Bane, the villain in the last Batman movie. Take that however you like.    And his children may run his company but he did not divest himself, that's a huge problem and conflict of interest. Theoretically, he could trigger his removal or impeachment if he's caught using Presidential influence to promote his business. The phrase "Constitutional Crisis" has been used but it's not really a crisis, there's a clause that Mike Pence becomes President in that event, and he's incredibly anti-LGBTQ but possibly better with diplomacy internationally than Trump.