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    FlavaWorks is suing 325 gay-torrents.org users. You maybe one of them.

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    • jkronfussJ Offline
      jkronfuss @MrMazda
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      https://torrentfreak.com/gay-torrents-vanishes-after-lawsuit-flavaworks-narrows-case-from-325-to-39-users/

      We all should be very careful, just saying, they are reading forums trying to get more information. By now the ludicrious lawsuit is going to target users from their site whose email matches the ones in gay-torrents.org. There is a theory behind how they got this information but I cannot say more for the time being, TorrentFreak also hints the same. You can all connect the dots on your own.

      The site owners are going to pay the price, or at least some of their assets will. The web is not coming back, ever, but at least the owners were able to protect a lot of the users by going dark when they did. "Thanking" someone from a torrent should not be done as it's pretty much an admission of guilt.

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        ianfontinell @jkronfuss
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        @jkronfuss said:
        "Thanking" someone from a torrent should not be done as it's pretty much an admission of guilt.

        No it's not, unless you live in the US where justice is just an arbitrary concept.

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          jkronfuss @ianfontinell
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          The biggest, and most interest part, about this updated lawsuit is they needed to acknoweledge they got their information in an indirect way, the site was going through a lot of hacks last year, and there is zero way for them to get any email from users unless you are either and admin or an owner. There is a reason why this information is always hidden in most places.

          I don't know whether that is allowed in a court given the way it was obtained. We shall see how it goes but yes, it's arbitrary and they are basically trying to go all the way into this lawsuit and nail as much people down as possible.

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            ianfontinell @jkronfuss
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            @jkronfuss i warned sysop that the fw ceo had contacted me in the email address i used in their site, so he was 100% aware that there was a breach in their opsec. How easy it was to ID him just showcases how reckless and unprepared he was for someone in his position.

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            • MrMazdaM Offline
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              @ianfontinell said:

              @jkronfuss said:
              "Thanking" someone from a torrent should not be done as it's pretty much an admission of guilt.

              No it's not, unless you live in the US where justice is just an arbitrary concept.

              All I'm going to say on this is if you're concerned about who may be able to see that you have put a thanks on a torrent, there is a solution. Go to your profile settings, then set your profile security to "Strong". When this setting is enabled, only a select few staff are able to see who you are when giving thanks.... So it allows you to give thanks (and even SBP) on a torrent, without just anyone being able to see that you have done so.

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                jkronfuss @ianfontinell
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                @ianfontinell it's a pity they chose not to disclose this fact earlier or I might have left the site, for whatever reasons the owners chose to conceal how serious it was. As I previously mentioned, everything points to FW getting most of their info via hackings, hence the whole thing falls into a "fruit of the poisonous tree" case scenario. We shall see how it goes.

                Thanks @mrmazda, I'm going to do that.

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                  eobox91103 @jkronfuss
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                  @jkronfuss said:

                  hence the whole thing falls into a "fruit of the poisonous tree"

                  That was my thought exactly. FW has a history of shady dealings. documented elsewhere in this forum. One of their stunts is to not pay their attorneys, which causes their cases to simply die.

                  I'm not a FW target as I've never downloaded or commented on their material, but it I were, I'd be inclined to delay the case with motions and such, waiting for their non-paid attorneys to quit and the case to be dismissed.

                  This is not to be taken as legal advice. If you are involved in this or any other such action, consult your own attorney.

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                    @MrMazda said:

                    It is generally assumed that although in a DPI state such as Canada that the big players to the market can see what kind of traffic you have going even through the VPN, they typically do not give a damn what you're actually doing, as long as they don't have copyright holders knocking on their door with infringement claims.

                    What do you mean here that people and ISP can see what you are doing behind a VPN ? Isn't the whole point of the VPN is to encrypt and hide your IP ? Or is this encryption broken?

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                      @Aerethiel It is supposed to prevent that kind of thing in theory, but the big players to the market in Canada (Bell, Rogers, Telus, and Videotron) all have such DPI systems, which absolutely CAN and DO decrypt. Until Bill C-9 passed just recently, this practice was highly illegal, but since the passing of that bill, it has become the "standard" practice.

                      There are other countries like Turkey that come to mind that have the same kind of DPI system. I don't know if their systems can read the actual traffic though to tell what kind it is, or if they can see the actual content as well, but I know in Canada (and likely also the USA), the big player providers (and by extension, the government) can not only see what kind of traffic is being transmitted, but they can also see the content of the traffic too.

                      This means that for anyone who has smart home gadgets or appliances that connect to their home network, the government absolutely DOES know what you have, what you've got things set to, when you're home or not home, and so much more, as they read all the data from such gadgets to keep track of the people. It's actually kind of scary.

                      Sadly even in Canada, especially with the recent passing of Bill C-9, a VPN doesn't help... It will keep other people on the internet from seeing what you're up to, or even seeing where and who you really are, but it absolutely will NOT stop the government from prying into your business.

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