Gay or straight?

salas

barrett long is bisexual but i think he fall more to his gay side, true thing. he even has a kid

thomas261989

He watches his wife off screen playing with herself so he can keep it up while fucking a guy.

That disgusts me.

Dolmance

Well I don't think of "gay sex" as being "gay". For me, calling a person gay means they fall for men, love them, desire them etc. Sex with men is different. Any man and have sex with any man or woman - the terms "gay" and "straight" have nothing to do with it. Sex is there just to get your end off. Being gay is all about loving with man, living with them, caring, devotion and all that. Having sex with said man just add to it all.

So a porn star in a "gay" or "straight" prono could be either. And I quite expect the majority go home to wives and kids afterwards.

Cheers, David.

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juancho

by definition, these gay-for-pay guys are bisexuals…

some of the well-known gay-for-pay guys i know are:

1. chris rockaway (randy blue)
2. kurt wilde (one of porn biggest bottom has a wife and kids)
3. shane rollins (another bottom)
4. ryan idol
5. matt ramsey (gay porn name) or peter north (straight porn name) (btw, i have his 1984 bareback with large dicks film "the bigger, the better" and another clip... in both the movie and clip, he bottomed for large dicks)
6. jan dvorak/pavel novotny (he has appeared in gay, bisexual and straight porn)
7. ales hanak (has fucked girls in some bisexual porno)
8. most actors from corbin fisher claim that they are only gay-for-pay (i might believe some of them... i just might... lol)

more when i feel like it!

JakeC

What do you think about Gay for pay? Does really need porn industry this kind of porn? Are the actors straight or hide their bisexuality? Do you like some series from this kind of porn or have favourite actor/s?

I dont like this kind of movies, because I miss chemistry between actors, but nevertheless I like movies with Girth Brooks for his looks and body.

(If I forgot something, write it. )

martini20

I do find the concept a turn on. Although in reality, I've only seen a couple of masculine looking 'straight' blokes who seemed the genuine article, 'The Guy Site's' Chance being one of them, his awkwardness in the scenes is endearing and a turn on. On the other hand, there are a multitude of titles purporting to show supposedly real straight men endulging in all manner of sexual activity, but the actors are clearly no stranger to cocks.

JakeC asked 'does the porn industry need this kind of porn' … why not! you might as well ask 'does the industry need fisting, foot fetish, or bisex videos?' If it turns enough people on, is legal, and it makes enough money for a healthy profit, it will be made. Is it right or wrong? who cares, sexual orientation is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to both gay and hetro porn. After all, porn is built on selling a fantasy, however unlikely.

cumeaternc

Great topic. A similar thread can be found here also.
http://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=3351

JakeC

@martini20:

After all, porn is built on selling a fantasy, however unlikely.

Yeah, I agree, but… Why the companies needs actors, who plays homosexuality, when the porn industry have enough gay actors, who have no chance to „shine“ in movies, because straight man, in example, looks better? I give priority into movies, who actors are maybe „uglier“, but sex between them is more spirited.
Maybe gay for pay actors can show, that homosexuality is natural and break down barriers, but I dont think so. Which straight people whatch gay porn? I never heard about someone. Rather they will think, that to be a gay is a „lifestyle“ or a „choice“. And it isnt so. Its hard to say, whats on this thing is positive or negative.
This is my opinion. And what others users?

bluehue

you said it martini20. let the market speak for itself. although, it's not really my thing, i can certainly understand the popularity of it.

i think most of the gay-for-pay guys are attracted to men to a certain degree. after all, i don't think i could be straight-for-pay unless it was a serious chunk of change and a bunch of viagra.

martini20

@bluehue:

after all, i don't think i could be straight-for-pay unless it was a serious chunk of change and a bunch of viagra.

Very good point bluehue, there must be some degree of curiousity with them in the first place. Although there may be some that are really are desparate for money for whatever reason.

bluehue

@martini20:

Very good point bluehue, there must be some degree of curiousity with them in the first place. Although there may be some that are really are desparate for money for whatever reason.

That being said, I would require relatively less money and viagra me to be a bottom for some bitch with a strap-on. From what I gather a lot of these gay-for-pay dudes bottom more than top–especially when they're starting out.

cumeaternc

According to this March 16, 2009 interview with Howard Stern, Barrett Long claims he is straight…right before he whips out his cock and performs auto fellatio for the HS crew. :rotfl:
hxxp://www.howardstern.com/rundown.hs?d=1237176000

Censored pic from that interview

fancydude

** I started a new topic on this subject in error today and the moderator put it here: I have a few new ideas and I will now comment on what precedes here:

RE: Gay for pay: I mostly agree with someone who said approximately "anyone can have sex with anyone" for sexual release. What goes on in prison is proof of that. (continuing their quote: But who you love and want to be with is your orientation.) I also read that Western civiilzation (Europe & USA) much more than other cultures 'forces' people to choose to identify as either Gay or Straight. To say it another way, many other cultures understand the sexuality is fluid for some. It is hard for me to imagine a guy getting fucked in the ass JUST for the money, but then people do lots of things for money all the time.

But my hunch is most of the guys like Gay sex, they just can't admit it because it is so taboo in our Western civilization. Even the 30% who are straight per the HBO special - in my personal opinon that is probably a high estimate –think about this: most boys at a young age think a pussy looks disgusting. But something changes at puberty or whatever and most guys go pussy crazy. Not sure why, since it would seem anal sex is pretty close to vaginal sex and I don't know how a blindfolded man would tell whether he was fucking (or esp. getting a BJ) from a man or woman ? I would go further and say if a man can eat a pussy - which the jokes about the smell are endless right? - I can't imagine that same man would have problem sucking a nice clean dick. I do have a couple Gay male friends who did eat pussy and said it was like (shit I can't remember - something 'stale' or 2 day old damp grass ? and of course NEVER AGAIN ) but they said the fucking wasn't so bad. They succumbed at least partly to social pressure "how do you know you're Gay if you've never been with a woman? Although the reverse statement never is seriously considered!

And of course the 30% HBO number doesn't account for all the guys who figure out much later they are really Gay. How many of these just stay married since they now have entangled finances and kids and somewhat satisfy their Gay urges by have sex with men at the rest stops and in the parks? There are raids all the time catching married men. But remember even before you know what sex is you know you're not supposed to like boys, not supposed to look at the bulge in their underwear or look at boy's cocks in the shower at gym so it mostly just social or religious pressure to not have sex (AND LOVE) with men.

So my bottom line conclusion - some people can say "I love you" marry etc., clean out another person's bank account, kill rape and maim. So yeah, some guys can fuck guys for money. But I don't think that many men are truly Gay for Pay only.

***** below is today's post: (a few different thoughts with questions I'd like answered by others:)**I was checking out one of the pay-per-view sites for movie titles the other day, since you can actually see many more photos than here (to pick out a good movie to download here at GT.ru) and I was amazed to see hundreds and hundreds of titles that I've never seen here. Maybe thousands.

Then I thought - all of these 10's of thousands of guys can't ALL be Gay for Pay. Or are they? Or are there tons of guys who are really Gay (in porn and maybe their true orientation) but then closeted in their daily lives? What comes to mind, there is a studio that specializes in Slavic guys, very prolific producer. Handsome, muscular guys, beautiful smiles, hair.. Except I noticed that when they give each other head, they only take the tip and it looks kinda mechanical. Same for the kissing. Fucking ? Oh yeah, these guys can nail that. So I can't help but think that most these guys are Gay for Pay.

pacifico

Ehm, we already have in the forum two topics about "gay4pay" and "gay or straight" porn actors, discussing the same thing:

http://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=12028.0

http://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=3351

I guess, can we merge those three different topic in just one of that?

Thank you very much for the answer :hug2:

leatherbear

Topics merged now and don't feel foolish fancydude. The entire topic of Gay for Pay is beyond my understanding. Pay is an easy excuse to closet oneself. At the least they are Bi and that is rare that one is truly BI as I find there is always a preference one way or the other.

fancydude

Leatherbear - I removed the one where I said I was foolish not to search for a topic (before posting a new topic) and then I read your reply. I didn't think it would let me do it, but I just tried it anyway!

Well, like I said in my updated 'reply' above, people will do anything for money, including pretend to love someone, clean out their bank accounts without losing a wink of sleep. Granted, this is the tiny minority of people (I hope!) - shoot, I read a story (in the regular printed newspaper!) about a guy fucking his own wife on her cancer bed. The daughter got suspicious and put a noise activated tape recorder under the bed. How insensitive is that - the woman is dying in pain and her pig of a husband has to get his rocks off. So yeah, I think there is Gay for pay, and maybe we actually agree after all, that it is just very few.

MrMazda

I stand by the motto of if you like to stick a dick up your ass, you're a fag!

Apollopaul

@MrMazda:

I stand by the motto of if you like to stick a dick up your ass, you're a fag!

And what about the total tops, the ones who never take it up the ass? :ok1:

MrMazda

Closet case…. That's all I'll say

fancydude

I don't know Mr. M - $4,000 vs. $500 in a straight porn movie….to fuck a guy - that is a lot of dough for a few hours work (they say there are-takes, and many angles etc.) There's no possibility that a few might be Gay for pay at that kind of salary? I already did say I agree with Leatherbear that MOST guys who say they're straight and do Gay porn are Gay.