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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      Both are right and both are wrong, depending on your accent.

      Z; Zee in the US and Zed in the UK

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        Tychsy89
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        a lot of words it depends on region.

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          Kekkaishi
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          So which pronunciation is the American?

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          • raphjdR Offline
            raphjd Forum Administrator @Kekkaishi
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            @Kekkaishi said in English Words Pronunciation:

            So which pronunciation is the American?

            It's not that simple, since both are used in the US and UK depending on where you live.

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            • bi4smoothB Offline
              bi4smooth @Kekkaishi
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              @Kekkaishi said in English Words Pronunciation:

              I have some words that I hear sometimes that are pronounced differently. Therefore I'm not sure what is the correct way to pronounce these words.
              I will write the word and then the 2 variations phonetically for better understanding

              Ideology: E-diology or I-dioloty

              Either: E-ther or I-ther

              Devisive: di-VI-sive or di-VAI-sive

              Beyond: be-Yo-nd or be-O-nd

              Resource -> re-So-rce or re-Zo-urce

              So which is it?
              thanks.

              You have discovered why English is such a difficult language to learn...

              In some examples, the different pronunciations have different meanings:

              • read (verb, pronounced: red) is the past tense of read (verb, pronounced reed), which is to "look at and comprehend the meaning of written material"
                For example: He had read (red) "To Kill a Mockingbird" earlier that year, so he had no difficulty when he was asked to read (reed) it out loud in class.
              • Plus, there is read (noun, pronounced reed) that is "someone's understanding of a topic or event"
                For example: The General's read (reed) on the battle was eventually proven correct"
              • Then there's read (adjective, pronounced red) denoting a high level of understanding
                For example: He is well read (red) in the Greek Classical Poetry - making him a total bore at parties!
              • And finally, there is the location on the board game Monopoly: Reading Railroad - (pronounced correctly as red-ding)

              Then, there's the famous song from Gershwins' "Shall We Dance" called "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off" where the on-screen couple argues about English word pronunciations:

              Things have come to a pretty pass
              Our romance is growing flat,
              For you like this and the other
              While I go for this and that,
              Goodness knows what the end will be
              Oh I don't know where I'm at
              It looks as if we two will never be one
              Something must be done:
              You say either and I say either,
              You say neither and I say neither
              Either, either neither, neither
              Let's call the whole thing off.
              You like potato and I like potahto
              You like tomato and I like tomahto
              Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto.
              Let's call the whole thing off
              But oh, if we call the whole thing off
              Then we must part
              And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart
              So if you like pyjamas and I like pyjahmas,
              I'll wear pyjamas and give up pyajahmas
              For we know we need each other so we
              Better call the whole thing off
              Let's call the whole thing off.
              You say laughter and I say larfter
              You say after and I say arfter
              Laughter, larfter after arfter
              Let's call the whole thing off,
              You like vanilla and I like vanella
              You saspiralla, and I saspirella
              Vanilla vanella chocolate strawberry
              Let's call the whole thing off
              But oh if we call the whole thing of then we must part
              And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart
              So if you go for oysters and I go for ersters
              I'll order oysters and cancel the ersters
              For we know we need each other so we
              Better call the calling off off,
              Let's call the whole thing off.
              I say father, and you say pater,
              I saw mother and you say mater
              Pater, mater uncle, auntie let's call the whole thing off.
              I like bananas and you like banahnahs
              I say havana and I get havahnah
              Bananas, banahnahs havana, havahnah
              Go your way, I'll go mine
              So if I go for scallops and you go for lobsters,
              So all right no contest we'll order lobseter
              For we know we need each other so we
              Better call the calling off off,
              Let's call the whole thing off.

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                kimbobo
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                what everybody has already said but i wanted to link this website i really like. i'm a big language geek and it's fun to hear how different regions speak https://www.dialectsarchive.com/

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                • Dracula975D Offline
                  Dracula975 @Kekkaishi
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                  @Kekkaishi said in English Words Pronunciation:

                  I have some words that I hear sometimes that are pronounced differently. Therefore I'm not sure what is the correct way to pronounce these words.
                  I will write the word and then the 2 variations phonetically for better understanding

                  Ideology: E-diology or I-dioloty

                  Either: E-ther or I-ther

                  Devisive: di-VI-sive or di-VAI-sive

                  Beyond: be-Yo-nd or be-O-nd

                  Resource -> re-So-rce or re-Zo-urce

                  So which is it?
                  thanks.

                  Born and raised in the USA and having lived for a long time in a region of the USA where there is little or no accent, I can offer what I feel is the "common" pronunciation from my experience:

                  I-dee-ology although I have heard Id-eology (like the psychology word id) spoken frequently, but that may be just a more posh pronunciation.

                  E-ther and I-ther are both spoken nearly equally. E-ther is probably more commonly used, and I-ther may be a bit more posh.

                  de-VI-sive

                  be-Yond

                  Re-source

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                    Kekkaishi @Dracula975
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                    @Dracula975 Thanks!

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                    • bi4smoothB Offline
                      bi4smooth @Kekkaishi
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                      @Kekkaishi

                      E-ther vs I-ther pronunciation for me is use-case:

                      "You can E-ther have cake or ice cream, but not both"

                      vs.

                      "No, I didn't like that move all that much I-ther"

                      There I go - screwing up the English language again! My middle-school English teacher (who almost failed me!) would be so proud! LOL

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                        Kekkaishi @bi4smooth
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                        @bi4smooth I remember an encounter many years ago where I worked as cashier at a drug store.
                        A customer enters who speaks English natively. I don't remember the details but he asked me a question (in English of course) and I answered using the word "either" (pronounced I-ther) in regards to comparing two products or something. The weird thing is that he seemed to not understand my meaning of the word, not until I used E-ther to "correct" mysellf.
                        But most likely I misused the word altogether in a sentence

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                        • bi4smoothB Offline
                          bi4smooth @Kekkaishi
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                          @Kekkaishi said in English Words Pronunciation:

                          @bi4smooth I remember an encounter many years ago where I worked as cashier at a drug store.
                          A customer enters who speaks English natively. I don't remember the details but he asked me a question (in English of course) and I answered using the word "either" (pronounced I-ther) in regards to comparing two products or something. The weird thing is that he seemed to not understand my meaning of the word, not until I used E-ther to "correct" mysellf.
                          But most likely I misused the word altogether in a sentence

                          I would fault the customer there - E-ther and I-ther pronunciations are generally considered interchangeable in English... I don't think there are "rules" about when one gets used vs. the other.

                          My example above wasn't intended to say one was correct and the other not, rather that I personally use both pronunciations!

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