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    • M Offline
      MeatHook
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      I've been wondering what that little recycle icon meant. Thanks for explaining it. 😊

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      • eastonkellanE Offline
        eastonkellan
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        @MrMazda:

        Also, do not forget that there are two other things to take into account when determining whether or not a torrent is a duplicate….. They are:

        1. Format Container - e.g. are both files in .avi or is one .avi and one .mp4... If the format container is different, then they are not considered a duplicate

        2. File Size - If the first rule isn't applicable because the format container is the same (i.e. both files are .avi), then you need to look at the size difference. If the file size is the same, then it is a duplicate. If the file size is different, the newer upload must be a minimum of 10% different than the original torrent in order to not be classified as a duplicate.

        Crystal clear…..thanx 4 that info

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          junior
          last edited by

          :police:

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            cannonmc
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            Ask me who posted a duplicate yesterday, go on, ask me! Yup, you're right but at least someone got 50 points 🙂

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            • J Offline
              junior
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              @cannonmc:

              Ask me who posted a duplicate yesterday, go on, ask me! Yup, you're right but at least someone got 50 points 🙂

              I was shocked…..

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              • EllisE Offline
                Ellis
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                Don't forget to check the file sizes!

                Before reporting a duplicate (and more importantly…to the site, before confirming and removing a "duplicate")...

                Please make sure the difference in the file sizes between the original and "duplicate" is not greater than 10%; and therefore considered not to be a duplicate.

                I've had the same upload removed twice now, in spite of its 15-16% difference in file size of that of the original.

                What makes this instance worse, is that at the time of removal, it was in the top 5-10 of the "most popular torrents!" 😞

                ![](https://www.gaytor.rent/bitbucket/...my baby and me.jpg)

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                  Popper Global Moderator
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                  Usually confirmed duplicate uploads aren't removed immediately and you get a PM. You can reply to the moderator having handled that report and appeal giving a reason why you belief it isn't handled right. If you aren't satisfied with his feedback, you still can write the Helpdesk.

                  I've looked through your Uploaded Torrents for those having found duplicate:

                  a) The first wasn't indeed a duplicate, so I restored it, made it freeleech, promoted it and marked to your Profile that it wasn't a duplicate.

                  b) The second I confirm to be a duplicate. A few added screenshots don't make it no duplicate. On a video torrent, what counts are the video files. Only when we see a full original Picture Set added, it will count as added shared works.

                  So that gives a somewhat mixed result…

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                  • EllisE Offline
                    Ellis
                    last edited by

                    I'm not quite sure what file you're referring to with your comment..

                    b) The second I confirm to be a duplicate. A few added screenshots don't make it no duplicate. On a video torrent, what counts are the video files. Only when we see a full original Picture Set added, it will count as added shared works

                    …and many thanks for re-posting the one removed and making it freeleech as well! 😄

                    .@Popper:

                    Usually confirmed duplicate uploads aren't removed immediately and you get a PM. You can reply to the moderator having handled that report and appeal giving a reason why you belief it isn't handled right. If you aren't satisfied with his feedback, you still can write the Helpdesk.

                    I've looked through your Uploaded Torrents for those having found duplicate:

                    a) The first wasn't indeed a duplicate, so I restored it, made it freeleech, promoted it and marked to your Profile that it wasn't a duplicate.

                    b) The second I confirm to be a duplicate. A few added screenshots don't make it no duplicate. On a video torrent, what counts are the video files. Only when we see a full original Picture Set added, it will count as added shared works.

                    So that gives a somewhat mixed result…

                    ![](https://www.gaytor.rent/bitbucket/...my baby and me.jpg)

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                      cannonmc
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                      @Ellis:

                      I've had the same upload removed twice now, in spite of its 15-16% difference in file size of that of the original.

                      But do we we really need a multitude of different file sizes and formats of the same movie, over and over again.

                      To my mind there are two possibilities, a full DVD post, a decent non-DVD post. I realise that some people like the tweaks of other posts but type 'scandal vatican' for instance into the search box. Do we really need 44 different posts?

                      And with so many duplicates it is obvious the seeder hasn't even bothered to check and certainly hasn't bothered to say 'this is a copy of something I got elsewhere so thank you to the original poster'.

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                      • EllisE Offline
                        Ellis
                        last edited by

                        I know it's your job, hence your "title," but why ask me?

                        I'm not the one who authored the rules, nor do I "break" them.

                        But since you asked…

                        Why not?

                        Personally, I think it's great!

                        It provides opportunities for both downloaders, as well as uploaders.

                        If you don't like offering, just move on to the one that does suit you.@cannonmc:

                        @Ellis:

                        I've had the same upload removed twice now, in spite of its 15-16% difference in file size of that of the original.

                        But do we we really need a multitude of different file sizes and formats of the same movie, over and over again.

                        To my mind there are two possibilities, a full DVD post, a decent non-DVD post. I realise that some people like the tweaks of other posts but type 'scandal vatican' for instance into the search box. Do we really need 44 different posts?

                        And with so many duplicates it is obvious the seeder hasn't even bothered to check and certainly hasn't bother to say 'this is a copy of something I got elsewhere so thank you to the original poster'.

                        ![](https://www.gaytor.rent/bitbucket/...my baby and me.jpg)

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                        • ben351500B Offline
                          ben351500
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                          I've seen several possible duplicates; same titles, same size, same pics, etc. But more often than not, the file type is not listed. Short of downloading both files, how can we tell what kinds of files they are? I assume that you guys in Admin can tell; so I've reported a couple of these cases. Was this the right thing to do?

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                            cannonmc
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                            The file type should show if you hover over the file line in the Size/Infos column of the torrent list page.

                            If not (and I haven't seen this), click to the torrent page and click on Show Full List in the Num Files line. If that still doesn't work and you are desperate to know, you could download the torrent file, open it and your torrent client will show what you would download if you clicked OK. You don't need to download it.

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                            • ben351500B Offline
                              ben351500
                              last edited by

                              Cool! I hadn't noticed this feature before. Thanks!

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                                AlexisB
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                                I have 3 questions about reporting dupes:

                                1.) Can I report a dupe torrent with no seeder (new torrent)?

                                2.) Can I report a dead dupe torrent? I mean sometimes its only dead temporarily, and can be revived when you ask for seeders. (I am reporting this so they can be deleted by admins, not for the sake of SB but just my OCD kicking in.  ;D )

                                and lastly:

                                3.) Should I report a dupe torrent when the original torrent is dead? Many times and I am guilty of this, but seeders prefer to seed the newer torrent knowing, or not, that it is a dupe torrent because it was FL'ed. What should be done in this situation?

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                                  Popper Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  You can report all kind of duplicate torrents, but …

                                  1. Please don't report if the new duplicate is less than 96 hours old. Reason: we have a auto clean-up of new never seeded torrents in place.

                                  2. Yes, please. We won't try to revive the dead duplicate (as long as the original isn't dead and can't be revived). If the duplicate is dead, it will be deleted and the report dismissed, means you won't get points (sorry). This way of handling is due to limitations of the handling tool. We would like to give points if it isn't case 1).

                                  3.) > Yes, please. If the original is dead at the time of review, it will be deleted and the report dismissed, means you won't get points (sorry). We won't try to revive the original, which would make handling way to complicated and long (we tried that initially).

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                                    AlexisB
                                    last edited by

                                    @Popper:

                                    You can report all kind of duplicate torrents, but …

                                    1. Please don't report if the new duplicate is less than 96 hours old. Reason: we have a auto clean-up of new never seeded torrents in place.

                                    2. Yes, please. We won't try to revive the dead duplicate (as long as the original isn't dead and can't be revived). If the duplicate is dead, it will be deleted and the report dismissed, means you won't get points (sorry). This way of handling is due to limitations of the handling tool. We would like to give points if it isn't case 1).

                                    3.) > Yes, please. If the original is dead at the time of review, it will be deleted and the report dismissed, means you won't get points (sorry). We won't try to revive the original, which would make handling way to complicated and long (we tried that initially).

                                    Thank you for clearing this up. Just a follow up question on #2, do you think its underhanded, if I ask for seeders on the dead dupe torrent to revive it just to report it as dupe so I can earn SB?

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                                    • kalayaanK Offline
                                      kalayaan Global Moderator
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                                      @AlexisB:

                                      Thank you for clearing this up. Just a follow up question on #2, do you think its underhanded, if I ask for seeders on the dead dupe torrent to revive it just to report it as dupe so I can earn SB?

                                      I had to smile at this suggestion "Kababayan", don't you think it's rather unfair to the seeders that would seed a dead dupe torrent so that you can report it and earn SB?

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                                        cannonmc
                                        last edited by

                                        In a naughty moment I did wonder what would happen if I uploaded a duplicate then reported it as a duplicate.

                                        And no, don't even think about it. The staff have enough to do without this…

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                                          AlexisB
                                          last edited by

                                          @kalayaan:

                                          @AlexisB:

                                          Thank you for clearing this up. Just a follow up question on #2, do you think its underhanded, if I ask for seeders on the dead dupe torrent to revive it just to report it as dupe so I can earn SB?

                                          I had to smile at this suggestion "Kababayan", don't you think it's rather unfair to the seeders that would seed a dead dupe torrent so that you can report it and earn SB?

                                          actually, the reason why I asked is not because I want to do it, its because I saw some dead torrents on FL when there is a live torrent of the same file when you do a search. I can not think why people would put a dead dupe torrent on FL other than for this reason.

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                                          • J Offline
                                            junior
                                            last edited by

                                            @AlexisB:

                                            @kalayaan:

                                            @AlexisB:

                                            Thank you for clearing this up. Just a follow up question on #2, do you think its underhanded, if I ask for seeders on the dead dupe torrent to revive it just to report it as dupe so I can earn SB?

                                            I had to smile at this suggestion "Kababayan", don't you think it's rather unfair to the seeders that would seed a dead dupe torrent so that you can report it and earn SB?

                                            actually, the reason why I asked is not because I want to do it, its because I saw some dead torrents on FL when there is a live torrent of the same file when you do a search. I can not think why people would put a dead dupe torrent on FL other than for this reason.

                                            Yes the dupes are never ending!!!!!  And there are plenty of bad reports.

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