Judged and banned as "Non-gay related movies"

Popper

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Please don't let a few bad apple upset the cart. The AA people who made those mistake should have been warn or get their AA privilege revoke (at least temporary).
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Often AA privilege members are quite upset when we revoke that privilege (which can be re-earned). On the question of an upload being gay enough or not it might just lead to a long polemic without exit: to much grey zone of appreciation. Because of that we don't allow basically Gay Interest movies. We just can't define objective criteria what makes a movie special Gay Interest and isn't just interesting much gays or is of much interest to others, too.

On uploading ~~banned~~ studio torrents (movies or pictures), there is no discussion and prior warning.

twinkletoes

@Uwe:

On the question of an upload being gay enough or not it might just lead to a long polemic without exit:
to much grey zone of appreciation.
Because of that we don't allow basically Gay Interest movies.
We just can't define objective criteria what makes a movie special Gay Interest and isn't just interesting much gays
or is of much interest to others, too.

If the staff here were just consistent on this point, it wouldn't cause so much discontent.
When the following torrent was posted
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=117296
I wrote to the staff, saying that it had NO gay content, just some male nudity.
The torrent was still allowed.

raphjd

If the staff here were just consistent on this point, it wouldn't cause so much discontent.

I'm sorry, but no matter what we do, people will always bitch at us.

Popper

@twinkletoes:

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When the following torrent was posted
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=117296
I wrote to the staff, saying that it had NO gay content, just some male nudity.
The torrent was still allowed.

Yes, it was me who decided to leave it on because of what is said on IMDb about this movie and I added to the description.

Surreal tale of a 14 year-old boy who dreams of escaping the loneliness from an unhappy home & sexual abuse (from his mother's boyfriend who is also his school swimming coach). One day his back mysteriously sprouts feathers and he can metaphorically fly away from it all. Written by Len Massaar

If we would take it off, most certainly the uploader or seeders will shout on us, why it wasn't gay enough. Whatever we do with grey zone movies, it will be wrong.

To better appreciate a movie, we would need to have watched it. That is just impossible. Still it would be an individual appreciation.

twinkletoes

@Uwe:

@twinkletoes:

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When the following torrent was posted
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=117296
I wrote to the staff, saying that it had NO gay content, just some male nudity.
The torrent was still allowed.

Yes, it was me who decided to leave it on because of what is said on IMDb about this movie and I added to the description.

Surreal tale of a 14 year-old boy who dreams of escaping the loneliness from an unhappy home & sexual abuse (from his mother's boyfriend who is also his school swimming coach). One day his back mysteriously sprouts feathers and he can metaphorically fly away from it all. Written by Len Massaar

If we would take it off, most certainly the uploader or seeders will shout on us, why it wasn't gay enough. Whatever we do with grey zone movies, it will be wrong.

To better appreciate a movie, we would need to have watched it. That is just impossible. Still it would be an individual appreciation.

The "abuse" the boy suffered "from from his mother's boyfriend" was purely physical
There was no sexual content to it
"his mother's boyfriend" is strictly heterosexual and expresses no sexual attraction to the boy
Look at the IMDB "plot keywords" - you will find only Gay Interest & Teenager Nudity & Boy Nudity

If a site member takes the time to report a torrent as inappropriate,
why don't you at least have the courtesy to contact that member if there is any doubt about the validity of the objection
The issue is not one of "individual appreciation", it concerns objective criteria

I bought that DVD because it was purported to have gay content
I felt cheated

raphjd

I bought that DVD because it was purported to have gay content
I felt cheated

That's why you are angry.

Popper

You are right to blame us for your Report still not having been handled.

The objective criteria I've used to approve it, is the statement about that movie on IMDb. the individual appreciation is if that is enough as no "gay" or "homosexual" etc. … key words are present (I saw that when approving that torrent and was hesitating, but...)

As being involved as the approver, I have only copied that statement into the description and not further handled that Report.

Remember, we don't got a copy of the movie.

twinkletoes

@twinkletoes:

@Uwe:

On the question of an upload being gay enough or not it might just lead to a long polemic without exit:
to much grey zone of appreciation.
Because of that we don't allow basically Gay Interest movies.
We just can't define objective criteria what makes a movie special Gay Interest and isn't just interesting much gays
or is of much interest to others, too.

If the staff here were just consistent on this point, it wouldn't cause so much discontent.
When the following torrent was posted
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=117296
I wrote to the staff, saying that it had NO gay content, just some male nudity.
The torrent was still allowed.

And now we have 2 episodes of "Young Soldiers"!
Why???
Again, no response from the staff to a complaint

Popper

I have moved away yesterday the Season 1 Episode 3 for not being Game Themed, which I saw in the torrent list as appearing new.

AFAIK there was no Report made on any "Young Soldiers" torrent …

BTW: Why so aggressive in the tone

Joker

@raphjd:

I bought that DVD because it was purported to have gay content
I felt cheated

That's why you are angry.

hahahahahahahahahaahah :cheers:

as raphjd said…. we cannot be right on everyone. somebody will still find something to complaign...

hey dudes... our team (including me) are no robots!!!!

twinkelsomething: you should better shut your mouth up a little bit, otherwise you may found yourself somewhere else....

raphjd

I deleted 2 episodes of "Young Soldiers" the day after the 2nd episode aired in the UK.

I haven't seen any Reports about any more being uploaded.

Spintendo

Besides the contested "Gay / coming out" keywords from the RockNRolla entry on IMDB, some of the other "keywords":

"tied to chair" "tattoo" "fur coat" "scar"

"finger gun" "tennis court" "friendship" "golf club"

:crazy2:

It's plain to see that any perusal one may attempt within IMDB stands a good chance of revealing nothing more than an esoteric grouping of bizarre-ontological categories offering no practical use whatsoever.

Any film-specific context derived from that as a source should be met with severe skepticism. Might I suggest WorldCat as a source for any non-porn nature film/movie type questions re: context, as they often include plot summaries and a database to rival IMDB in scope.

Popper

@raphjd:

I deleted 2 episodes of "Young Soldiers" the day after the 2nd episode aired in the UK.

I haven't seen any Reports about any more being uploaded.

Yesterday when searching, I found indeed torrents for the Episodes 1 and 2 of Young Soldiers uploaded by an AA privilge member and moved them away.

It was the same member to which I already wrote regarding episode 3 and he believed it is gay interest because of the half naked male bodies and to be good to upload …

poppycock

At the moment, the chat room seems to be down and I can't find any movies online. That is probably a glitch that will be fixed within hours.

Anyway, I had some questions. I was considering uploading some non-porn material. The reason is that it is very good stuff, packaged up in a very "friendly" way. Specifically, I got ahold of every episode of the HBO series the Sopranos, without commercials, and the uncensored versions. The quality is as good as broadcast quality. I was able to get 8 episodes on each DVD, which takes up 8 DVDs. Would that be something good to upload?

I got ahold of "Pirates of The Caribbean - On Stranger Tides" and "Rise of the Planet of the Apes", but I guess those two both violate the Blockbuster rule.

Heh.. wouldn't all Tom Cruise movies qualify as being gay movies?

by the way, there is a new movie about porn that is not porn, it is an attempt at comedy. It is called "Bucky Larson - Born To Be A Star" and it is produced by Adam Sandler. I have read several reviews of this movie, and the consensus is that it is not funny at all, and is the worst movie of 2011 so far. The weird thing is, this movie is posted all over the internet, by dozens of different "groups" with different file sizes and formats. But, ALL of them are fake! I have never come across a movie that was so aggressively posted as fakes. Also, many version of it have some embedded WMV code which tells you to go to a certain website to get a special player for the movie. Don't believe it! They are trying to trick you into installing some malware which will make your computer unbootable until you clean your drive by making it a slave to a clean drive and scanning it for malware. One reason I love gaytor.rent / GTRU.net so much is that all the movies are REAL and there is no malware here.

raphjd

Is there a gay element in the Sopranos?

YES, Pirates of the Caribbean violate the blockbuster rule.

Also, many version of it have some embedded WMV code which tells you to go to a certain website to get a special player for the movie. Don't believe it! They are trying to trick you into installing some malware which will make your computer unbootable until you clean your drive by making it a slave to a clean drive and scanning it for malware.

NEVER, EVER install special software just to watch a movie. If mainstream players won't play it, then ask on a trusted site (such as here) to see if it is valid.

in2unow123

Quick question (and I'm not trying to stir the pot)…

We have categories outside of movies that members are allowed to upload to: i.e. Music, Applications. What is the concern about non-gay content movies being uploaded onto the tracker, if tagged and categorized as being non-gay? Is it because of legal concerns with larger movie production companies? What would be the harm in having a non-gay content area for movies? Just trying to understand (and forgive me if I have overlooked this somewhere in the MEMBER MANUAL for the Community /big smile). Do we scrutinize Music? I would image we scrutinize Applications to ensure there are no viral files contained (seems a lot of hacked applications have viral issues these days). Again, not trying to stir the pot, simply to be enlightened and understand. Big TOM knows how much I love it here.

raphjd

It's 99% about the legal issues involved.

A lot of the virus/worm/trojan stuff I've seen lately is false positives. I use Kaspersky IS 2012 and it falsely accused a legit (retail) program of being a trojan and quarantined one of the files making the program useless. I submitted it the file to Kaspersky and they confirmed it was a false positive and added it as an exception to their next update.

geekguy

@Uwe:

A member made the following comment:

Ya i was gonna say… you should make just a complete separate section for movies! that might be pretty sweet to have that within the confines of gaytorrent.... but im guessing thats already been discussed.

That will not happen, this is not a general interest forum and tracker, but well established in the Gay(LBT for Themed Movies) niche. Of course, gays are sharing general interest and to find these, is valid what F00F said:

Non-gay related movies goes on public trackers or other invite-only sites.

I guess every member here knows such tracker and forums/blogs

I get the general thoughts on movies and TV, but… I'm just curious -- how is GLBT determined for MUSIC? Some is obvious, but does this follow stereotypes only, like Cher and Madonna are "gay interest" but not Coldplay?

noxxim

@raphjd:

It's 99% about the legal issues involved.

Yes, the big major labels have infinitely Money and Loyers to make much more 'problems' than the porn labels can do. It's better for gtru (and us users) don't share such big mainstream contents.

And honestly, it is easy to find non-gay stuff that never posted here before than find G-Porn in this way. So i think is a bit unfair (about ratio i mean) to all others the post only porn.

@raphjd:

A lot of the virus/worm/trojan stuff I've seen lately is false positives. I use Kaspersky IS 2012 and it falsely accused a legit (retail) program of being a trojan and quarantined one of the files making the program useless. I submitted it the file to Kaspersky and they confirmed it was a false positive and added it as an exception to their next update.

This is also my experience. The Crackers have to inject some code to binary files to run programms without Serials or other things. That bit of code is often alerted by AV Software. I don't care about this most of the time. So i run behavior-based Malware defense (e.g. Emisoft Mamutu) in addition to normal Signature-Based AV. Manutu don't alert if code looks like, it alerts when the file DOES ACT like a virus, malware or what ever (connect to the internet, try to hook on running processes, try to change other programms files, …).

Ellis

I had a couple of my "Themed Movie" uploads removed, with reference to the LGBT theme requirement. "No 'eye-candy'…" being mentioned with one of them.

I re-uploaded the movie as part of a torrent offering, that also included an "Image Pack" of "eye-candy" images from the web, of someone from the movie.

They got fewer comments, if any; and still remain active.