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geekguy

I can understand why she got defensive from the responses in this thread.

I don't understand why she likes gay porn, but to each their own, I guess.

Well, I respect Raphjd's opinion, so I apologize to the lesbian for responding in a catty way.

Tamaochan, please note that he didn't understand your interest either. Maybe we agree to hug and then you take another attempt at helping us understand this interest that perplexes us so?

salas

i understand her interest in gay porn even though she is a lesbian… she is just a freak like everyboby on here (me included). like she said, we all have our taste and there is no reason to explain it, just take her as she is. BTW, i like straight porn and i'm a big ol queer... ;D

airliner

@raphjd:

I can understand why she got defensive from the responses in this thread.

what a defensive reaction she showed ;D
She should also acknowledge the rights to be curious , ask questions and express our minds .

geekguy

@salas:

i understand her interest in gay porn even though she is a lesbian… she is just a freak like everyboby on here (me included). like she said, we all have our taste and there is no reason to explain it, just take her as she is. BTW, i like straight porn and i'm a big ol queer... ;D

There is no "reason" to explain or discuss most everything on this forum. the great thing about us humans is we go beyond and are curious about the world. Maybe "reason" and "explain" are the wrong terms; too clinical, too much like a trial. I am just interested in what it is about gay porn that turns a lesbian on. Just saying "everything" and she's a "freak" like us all limits understanding, keeping us all on our separate little islands. Discussion builds bridges. ;D

And I like some straight porn too. It has hot GUYS in them. That is irrelevant to the situation in this thread. Do you like LESBIAN porn? that would be the parallel to her situation. And yes, I would wonder all these same things about a gay man liking lesbian porn.

katyggls

Ok, well I just stumbled on this thread, and even though I've never posted on this forum before I think I'll jump in as this convo interests me. Mostly because I too am a girl who likes gay porn. Unlike tamaochan, I'm straight though (Yes I like cock ;D). I think I see both sides of this. It seems like geekguy was genuinely just curious about why a lesbian likes gay porn. It's sort of a small puzzle to me as well, though by no means unfathomable, especially if you subscribe to the Kinsey view of sexuality as I do. But I can see a little bit why she got defensive since someone suggested she might have been lying about her stated preferences. Why would she lie about it here? What would it gain her? Also and tamaochan can correct me if I'm wrong, but she might have gotten a bit defensive because in my experience at least, and through talking with other girls who like gay porn, some (not that many, but enough to be wary of) gay guys get kind of hostile when a girl says they like gay (male) porn, not really sure why. Not on this forum, because like I've said I've never posted here before, but that's why. I've always been afraid I might get sort of some flak for being a straight female on a gay male forum. So mostly I've just stuck to the torrents. So thanks, tamaochan for giving me the courage to post for the first time.

But I agree with geekguy about curiosity and discussion building bridges. I've had gay men ask me about why I like gay porn and I never mind explaining as long as they're being nice about it.

raphjd

@ katyggls

Now that you have built up the courage, I hope you will continue posting.

I don't want anyone to feel they don't have the right or can't post in the forums, as it belongs to all of us.

@ geekguy

I too would love if tamaochan would explain what about gay porn turns her on. That would be quite interesting.

As a gay man, lesbian porn does nothing for me, so I have a hard time understanding what gay porn would do for a lesbian.

geekguy

@ katyggls

Nice to have you on the forum/thread. Loved your articulate and even-handed post. You can probably tell from my posts that I like getting a little wordy, so I like that in others too.

And I will have to admit to assuming too much when I look at forum posts. It honestly never occurred to me that anyone other than gay men would be using the site or the forum. Knowing that there are lesbians, straight gals, maybe even straight guys? on the forum makes it all more interesting, if a bit scarier. The assumption of gayness was what allowed me to open up in the forum, to "others like me." Probably why I came off a little mean in my first post to tamaochan, perceiving an invasion. I'll get over it, and the discussions will be better because of it.

I wonder how many others in the forum also make the "everyone here is gay" assumption? I wonder if it matters?

katyggls

@ raphjd

Thanks for the welcome. While I'll probably never be a prolific poster, I may pop in now and again.

@ geekguy

Thanks. Yes, I'm a word nerd. I have to watch myself with that because I lose people sometimes, lol.

As for assuming, well, being that we live in a largely heteronormative world, I can't blame you in the least for assuming that the only people here were gay men. And honestly, that too has been part of what has kept me from posting in the forums. The absolute last thing I'd ever want to do is encroach on someone's "safe space" you know? If it makes you feel better, here are a couple of things that I think you can still safely assume: one, that the vast majority of the people here are in fact gay men and two, anyone on this forum who isn't a gay man is bound to be pretty gay friendly, otherwise why would they be here? I sincerely hope that I haven't changed the nature of the forums for anyone by admitting that I'm a straight girl, I would feel so bad about that.

geekguy

@katyggls:

I sincerely hope that I haven't changed the nature of the forums for anyone by admitting that I'm a straight girl, I would feel so bad about that.

Don't feel bad. I was trying to say that after my initial shock, I am now interested by others like you, and the different perspective you will sometimes bring to topics. Case in point: the original conversation of this thread.

Keep posting, its like potato chips. Once you get started, its hard to stop!

katyggls

Thanks geekguy. I also find these conversations interesting. I kind of wish tamaochan would come back to this thread so we could talk more, hope she didn't get too scared off by that little misunderstanding.

soflsmurf

A Girl saying thank you to a gay porn torrent site. how cool is that lol

katyggls

@soflsmurf:

A Girl saying thank you to a gay porn torrent site. how cool is that lol

It's kind of a well kept secret, but there are actually a lot of us girls who love gay porn.

projectneon

@sgmusuk:

@airliner:

do you really believe that everything you see and read in internet is true ?

I do beleive everything I read on the internet!!! I just found a site that thinks gay men are GODs from another world… I'm happy with that

Thats true ;D

juancho

so far, this is the most interesting thread i've come across GT.ru…

while it may be true that the veracity of the contents of most internet forums, sites, articles, opinions, etc. are questionable, it is also true that a lot of our previously held ideas or norms about a lot of things on this life are being reshaped and challenged everyday. (ex: a couple of hundred years ago people thought the world was flat or homosexuality was considered abnormal or AIDS was caused by gays, etc.) (or "if you love me, you'll swallow?" LOL)

no one can really say for sure if these ladies are who they really claim to be but if what they are claiming are true then let's just be thankful that our fixed notions of likes/dislikes are being re-defined and its boundaries being widened.

this is a good thing. it means that we have evolved. maybe one day these boundaries will disappear and we will finally be happy living our lives the way we want it to be without the confines of having to live it according to "labels" (gay, straight, bi, etc.) and according to fixed forced norm based on antiquated ideas or religiously defined rules.

besides, human beings are complex creatures. there's still a lot of aspects of our being human that are only vaguely understood while some are a complete mystery.

these ladies like watching guys fuck each other.

it is weird but not a completely impossible idea to grasp.

think of scat, pissing, torture, etc. some people find them erotic and enjoy them while the rest of the world cringe at the very thought.

i'm saying it may not be easy (we are still conditioned by the influences we had growing up) but let's try to open up our eyes and appreciate our diverse nature as humans.

there's joy in finding out that our differences give us opportunities for sharing with each other.

embrace diversity.

(sorry for the rant)

oh, and thank you gaytor.rent for giving us the avenue to share (NOT leech… LOL) porn movies/clips, themed movies, apps and others!
more power!!!

katyggls

@juancho:

no one can really say for sure if these ladies are who they really claim to be but if what they are claiming are true then let's just be thankful that our fixed notions of likes/dislikes are being re-defined and its boundaries being widened.

I suppose people do lie a lot on the internets, but usually when people lie they do so for a fairly logical reason. What gain would there be for a man saying he was female on a mostly gay male forum? Wouldn't the opposite situation be more logical (a female on a gay male forum pretending to be male)? I'm not picking over this but I am genuinely curious. Is people lying about their sex a common occurrence on this forum?

this is a good thing. it means that we have evolved. maybe one day these boundaries will disappear and we will finally be happy living our lives the way we want it to be without the confines of having to live it according to "labels" (gay, straight, bi, etc.) and according to fixed forced norm based on antiquated ideas or religiously defined rules.

I hope so. I'd love to not get weird looks whenever people find out that I'm a fan of gay porn, lol. I don't go around sharing it with everyone but occasionally someone notices my Brent Corrigan desktop wallpaper and is like "WTF! Gay porn on a girl's computer! head explodes". ;D

these ladies like watching guys fuck each other.

it is weird but not a completely impossible idea to grasp.

It's not really that weird if you think about it. Most straight guys like to watch two girls go at it. It's kind of the same concept for girls who like gay porn. There are other factors of course. I mean, have you seen any straight porn lately? Most of it is so…misogynist. (Does my use of the word misogynist in an actual sentence prove I'm a girl yet? :P)

The only reason nobody thinks it's weird that straight guys like lesbian porn is because they're men and people expect them to be sexual. Even though it's the twenty first century, a lot of people still think women are not/or should not be sexual creatures who go out looking for what gets them off. Hopefully, that too will change eventually. $:-\$

juancho

I suppose people do lie a lot on the internets, but usually when people lie they do so for a fairly logical reason. What gain would there be for a man saying he was female on a mostly gay male forum? Wouldn't the opposite situation be more logical (a female on a gay male forum pretending to be male)? I'm not picking over this but I am genuinely curious. Is people lying about their sex a common occurrence on this forum?

**your definition of "logical" may not be other people's definition of the same word.

a lot of people find it satisfying/entertaining to "shock" other people by doing anything possible (i'm not saying you are, i'm just giving you a very common example).

and people find it easier to lie on the internet than in real life, whether in a forum, profile, etc.**

God has given you one face, and you make yourself another.
William Shakespeare

I hope so. I'd love to not get weird looks whenever people find out that I'm a fan of gay porn, lol. I don't go around sharing it with everyone but occasionally someone notices my Brent Corrigan desktop wallpaper and is like "WTF! Gay porn on a girl's computer! head explodes".

i only have this for a reply: It doesn't matter what you do in the bedroom as long as you don't do it in the street and frighten the horses.
Daphne Fielding
The Duchess of Jermyn Street

It's not really that weird if you think about it. Most straight guys like to watch two girls go at it. It's kind of the same concept for girls who like gay porn. There are other factors of course. I mean, have you seen any straight porn lately? Most of it is so…misogynist. (Does my use of the word misogynist in an actual sentence prove I'm a girl yet? Tongue)

The only reason nobody thinks it's weird that straight guys like lesbian porn is because they're men and people expect them to be sexual. Even though it's the twenty first century, a lot of people still think women are not/or should not be sexual creatures who go out looking for what gets them off. Hopefully, that too will change eventually. Undecided

**there are actually conditions for a lesbian porn to work on the straight man psyche:

1. they have to beautiful and sexy
2. they have to be feminine lesbians (lipstick lesbians) and not the butch type (lumberjack lesbians)
3. they have to have a scene in that film/movie where they (or at least 1 of them) was being fucked by a guy

when translated, they will not appear as "lesbians" in a straight man's mind but rather 2 beautiful sexy girls with no inhibitions vying for his virility and manhood (which is the ultimate straight man's fantasy). it's always about his ego.

if you show 2 butch lesbians having sex or 1 fem lesbian and 1 butch lesbian having sex, straight men usually cringe at the idea… (translation: they now have a competition for the sexy beautiful uninhibited girl's attention which is a big turn off for them because now, there is a possibility that he may loose to the competitor)**

_**as for the women liking gay sex, it is actually out of the ordinary because even though females have this fantasy of being fought over by 2 or more attractive guys, this fantasy happens mostly to straight females and not lesbians (the logic being that lesbians aren't turned on sexually by guys wanting to have sex and/or relationship with her).

also, most straight females find it a turn off to see 2 attractive guys having sex with each other instead of doing her because then her fantasy boys aren't serving her ultimate fantasy (which is to vie for her attention and give her pleasure - not give each other pleasure and ignore her). also, as part of the conditioning while growing up in our current society, the bottom gay (whether straight-acting or girly) is viewed as the femmy type of gay in a relationship and is therefore considered a competition by the straight female (which is again, another turn off).**_

katyggls

@juancho:

**there are actually conditions for a lesbian porn to work on the straight man psyche:

1. they have to beautiful and sexy
2. they have to be feminine lesbians (lipstick lesbians) and not the butch type (lumberjack lesbians)
3. they have to have a scene in that film/movie where they (or at least 1 of them) was being fucked by a guy

I agree except for number three. I'm pretty sure a lot of straight guys can enjoy a girl on girl film with no men involved. You only have to look at how many girl on girl films exclusively without men in them of any type are produced to know this. If guys didn't like it, the porn studios wouldn't produce them. And yes, I'm still talking about movies that are marketed towards men, not lesbians.

_**as for the women liking gay sex, it is actually out of the ordinary because even though females have this fantasy of being fought over by 2 or more attractive guys, this fantasy happens mostly to straight females and not lesbians (the logic being that lesbians aren't turned on sexually by guys wanting to have sex and/or relationship with her).

I think you are way over generalizing about females. While I agree it's probably not as common for women to like gay male porn than it is for men to like lesbian porn, a lot of that has to do with the fact that many females feel a lot of shame/guilt about viewing ANY porn, let alone gay porn. Women are usually afraid that if someone finds out they watch porn, people will think they're slutty/whorish/like sex too much (in the world of women, being seen as liking sex too much gets you labeled as a whore/slut and abnormal).

I can also tell you that most women do not actually fantasize about men "fighting over them". That's freaking bizarre. If two men fought over me, I'd think they were both douchebags and go find someone else. ;D Women don't have nearly the egos that straight men do, so we don't need men to fight over us to stroke our fragile self-esteem. :P**_**

geekguy

@katyggls:

I think you are way over generalizing about females. While I agree it's probably not as common for women to like gay male porn than it is for men to like lesbian porn, a lot of that has to do with the fact that many females feel a lot of shame/guilt about viewing ANY porn, let alone gay porn. Women are usually afraid that if someone finds out they watch porn, people will think they're slutty/whorish/like sex too much (in the world of women, being seen as liking sex too much gets you labeled as a whore/slut and abnormal).

I think we have to remember a distinction made between katyggls (straight) and the original poster of this thread (lesbian), which started all the confusion.

Kinda repeating myself from earlier…

I don't think it that weird that katyggls likes gay porn, just like it's not weird for straight guys to like porn with lesbian action (very feminine, like juancho says). The weirdness that got people going is; why would a LESBIAN want to watch gay porn, or a gay guy watch lesbian porn? That makes no sense to me. Juancho, you got anything that explains that?! (Not a dis, I find your previous arguments very compelling)

katyggls

@geekguy:

I don't think it that weird that katyggls likes gay porn, just like it's not weird for straight guys to like porn with lesbian action (very feminine, like juancho says).

Thanks for not thinking I'm weird, geekguy. ;D I admit that juancho's post kind of came off like he thought that it was weird so my back got up a little. He probably didn't intend that though, I'm just defensive about the issue.

The weirdness that got people going is; why would a LESBIAN want to watch gay porn, or a gay guy watch lesbian porn? That makes no sense to me. Juancho, you got anything that explains that?! (Not a dis, I find your previous arguments very compelling)

Like I said before, this is even a tiny bit puzzling to me. I guess we'll never know from tamoachan's pov, since it appears she won't be returning to the thread , but my theory is that she is a lesbian like she said, but at least some small part of her must get turned on by guys. So maybe she's mostly a lesbian but a little bit bi too? I kind of hate saying that, because who the hell am I to define someone else's sexuality, but it's just my opinion. Not that it matters, lol.

juancho

I think you are way over generalizing about females. While I agree it's probably not as common for women to like gay male porn than it is for men to like lesbian porn, a lot of that has to do with the fact that many females feel a lot of shame/guilt about viewing ANY porn, let alone gay porn. Women are usually afraid that if someone finds out they watch porn, people will think they're slutty/whorish/like sex too much (in the world of women, being seen as liking sex too much gets you labeled as a whore/slut and abnormal).

actually, my previous views were based on generalizations since we don't really know the OP and i don't really know you but those generalizations are actually based on the majority of women.

i do agree about the stigma faced by women regarding double standards. it has been part of people's patriarchal culture to be lenient to males regarding sexuality while being very strict, harsh and unfair to women. and it's sad to note that even with the improvements we have these past few decades as a people, that unfair labeling of liberated women as sluts/whores/nymphomaniacs is still prevalent in some parts of the world.

but even in cases where women admits liking porn, there only seem to be a very little fraction of straight women admitting to like watching gay porn.