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    Is 'requesting' files still banned?

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      tarrat
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      I came on here to vent and then I discovered that 'begging' for more files is supposed to be banned. I have uploaded like a madman for the past couple of months to share & (mostly) to increase my ratio, but I am ready to stop posting because of the constant begging and lists of files that someone 'needs'. I made the situation worse by posting a few 'requested' files because, at first, people were polite, but now it's constant and frustrating. No one seems happy with what they're getting, stuff that others paid for and they are getting for free. Instead of a polite 'thank you', they beg for more. I do think the same 'begging' should be banned for uploaders...they should not be begging for seedpoints.

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        frostycab @tarrat
        last edited by frostycab

        Yes, they are banned everywhere on the site.

        Also

        @tarrat said:

        ...they should not be begging for seedpoints.

        No they shouldn't, because that too is in the rules.

        "Do not plead or thank for seed bonus points in the description area."

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        • MrMazdaM Offline
          MrMazda Global Moderator
          last edited by MrMazda

          Requests of any sort for content have been banned across the whole site since March 2022. My suggestion would be that if ingrates want to become a problem and start begging for content, hit the report button. We'll take care of it and make it known that doing that kind of thing is banned and has been banned for some time now.

          Generally, we don't outright ban a user for making a request on the first offense, so it won't get them an instant ban, but after we have given them at least two warnings about making content, eventually we will drop the axe and outright ban the user for making requests.

          Simply put, there are very good reasons for WHY we have banned requests, which has a lot to do with why we take making requests so seriously. All I can say about the reason is that part of it is for the protection of the best interests of everyone involved.

          As for pleading for SBP, if this is done by an uploader in the torrent presentation (such as the description), we also will step in on this kind of thing, especially if it gets reported, as this too is a violation of the rules. Asking for SBP in the comments of a torrent is technically not a violation of any rule, however it is heavily frowned upon. Giving of SBP is the equivilent of tipping. It is a gratuity afforded from some users to an uploader, and is not something that should be expected as a rule.

          If a user chooses to opt into giving a gratuity by donating SBP to an uploader, that is their choice, and it is something for which uploaders should be grateful for when it happens, rather than having a sense of entitlement and somehow expecting it from people. It should also be noted that while a user absolutely CAN give a gratuity by awarding SBP on an upload, this is NOT something that is mandatory in any way.

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            jokuihmemies @MrMazda
            last edited by jokuihmemies

            @MrMazda so this is not up to date and should ignore this?
            https://community.gaytor.rent/post/313269

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            • MrMazdaM Offline
              MrMazda Global Moderator @jokuihmemies
              last edited by MrMazda

              @jokuihmemies The tread you mentioned is specific to forum bans, though I don't know whether or not bans from just the forum are even a thing anymore since a recent restructuring of staff. If they are, the "ban" that this thread refers to is a ban from the forum, but not from the site itself. On the site side, you will only get a system warning.

              It should also be noted that requests for content will also get logged against your user account on the torrent side as well. We do not outright ban from the torrent side on the first offense, but after you have been warned once about making requests, the most you will be given is a second warning. If after the second warning you continue to make requests, it will result in an immediate ban across the entire site.

              Also, just to clarify, saying you like something, that you wouldn't mind seeing more of something, or something more vaguely worded like "Keep them coming" or "keep it coming" are not direct requests, so at the worst, you'll only get told informally that requests are not allowed, but you will not actually get into trouble.

              Now, if you say something like "Please upload..." or something like "More please" would constitute a request, but asking something like "Is there more of this performer out there" or "Did this performer make any other content" or "I wouldn't mind seeing more of..." is acceptable, as it is not a direct request for someone to upload the content, but rather, is asking if other content exists or that you like seeing such content.

              Lastly, it should also be known that it is wise to avoid asking if an uploader if they have more of a certain content. While asking if they have more of a certain content is not directly asking them to upload that content, it borderlines dangerously close to a request, because it opens the door to the uploader offering to upload content, which essentially baits a user into making a request by responding.

              So the key takeaway here is that you're allowed to ask about whether or not content exists, and even where the content can be found, as long as you do not ask that the content be uploaded.

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                eusanderse @MrMazda
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                @MrMazda 'Does anyone has this (movie)?' pops up very often in forums. Should other users warn them of the rules or tag you instead? Or maybe both? I don't know if you're okay with being tagged for these 😬

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                • MrMazdaM Offline
                  MrMazda Global Moderator @eusanderse
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                  @eusanderse While asking if anyone has certain content is not a direct request to upload that content, I would advise against asking this question because it can open the door to a user offering to upload the content, which again would cause potential for problems for someone should they follow up on the offer.

                  So I would definitely point out to the user to be careful as their post borderlines dangerously close to a request. If you're not comfortable with that, I'm also fine with being tagged in it so that I can say something to steer the conversation back into a rule friendly direction.

                  Simply put, asking if anyone has certain content is not directly a request for upload, but it is request adjacent, so it's generally a good idea to avoid asking if anyone has something, but it is perfectly acceptable to ask if anyone knows where that content can be found. One is request adjacent, while the other is more comparable to asking someone for directions to a particular destination or landmark.

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