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    USA Dems flop on Iran war, can't decide what they want

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    • B Offline
      blablarg18
      last edited by blablarg18

      We're getting some good comments & memes.


      "Day in the Life of a Dem"

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      https://x.com/johnkonrad/status/2041681119972614357/photo/1

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      https://x.com/johnkonrad/status/2041682814127534223/photo/1


      When it was Ukraine, libs wanted war!

      Lib assassin of Trump, Ryan Routh, even hooked up with Nazi Azov Brigade & advocated USA-Russia nuclear war.

      Here, Ben Stiller stands in for all libs:

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      https://x.com/TONYxTWO/status/2041640526080843998


      Sen, Chris Murphy calls it "cataclysmic" that Trump wants peace with Iran:

      vid - https://x.com/i/status/2041660154689585367

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      https://x.com/Michael53854672/status/2041667606520971358/photo/1


      btw, maybe what just happened is, China decided they need their oil & told Iran to stop getting in the way.

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      https://x.com/KabirTaneja/status/2041685531952861524/photo/1

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      • B Offline
        blablarg18
        last edited by blablarg18

        more about China angle: Reports say, their shit don't work & it causes recriminations, purges.

        https://www.hudson.org/national-security/how-us-military-dominance-unravels-chinas-war-machine-miles-yu

        https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/apr/1/inside-ring-chinese-weapons-failures-prompt-military-researcher/

        High-profile failures of Chinese weapons and military equipment in Iran and elsewhere have resulted in the disappearance — and likely purge — of several key military developers.

        Former State Department policymaker Miles Yu said Chinese military systems that were promoted as capable of detecting and deterring high-end threats, such as stealth aircraft, were ineffective against recent U.S. military operations.

        “These failures did more than undermine specific platforms, as they exposed the gap between China’s claims and its actual capabilities,” said Mr. Yu, a Washington Times columnist.

        Perhaps the most glaring shortfall involved China’s highly touted HQ-9B long-range air defense system that Tehran purchased in mid-2025, reportedly as part of an oil-for-weapons deal.

        The missiles and radar were deployed at key nuclear sites and other high-value military sites in Iran. They were part of a layered integrated air defense that included domestic defenses and the Russian Pansir-S1.

        The HQ-9B was supposed to be able to knock out aircraft and missiles, but it proved unsuccessful when U.S. and Israeli airstrikes wiped them out before attacking other major targets.

        The system’s JY-27A long-range, VHF-band 3D active phased array radar was built for early warning and purportedly capable of tracking stealth aircraft.

        But when the first missiles and bombs were fired, the Chinese system proved ineffective. Its destruction was so successful that the U.S. military is now flying older B-52 bombers unthreatened in the Iranian skies despite those aircraft having a very large radar cross-section.

        The Chinese Communist Party’s response to the weapons failures was not transparency but internal upheaval, with sweeping purges of military leaders and defense researchers.

        Earlier Chinese military equipment shortfalls in Venezuela during the U.S. raid to capture former President Nicolas Maduro led to large numbers of People’s Liberation Army commanders becoming “nonpersons” and disappearing from public view, including senior commanders, said Mr. Yu, director of the China Center at the Hudson Institute.

        Full PLA generals appearing at major CCP meetings fell sharply, with six of 26 senior generals appearing at the major Party session held in early March, he noted.

        Some say, USA actions with Venezuela & Iran really take aim at China.

        & I've long said, USA Dems & media are paid CCP asset..... of course they'd be in anguish too

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        • bi4smoothB Offline
          bi4smooth
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          IMHO, you nitwits only complain and make accusations about Dems & China as a distraction from the obvious influence Russia has over Trump.

          Who has this Iran war helped?

          • Israel (giving in to the war-mongering faction there was a BIG mistake!)
          • Russia (lack of Arabian oil only helps them sell their oil - at higher prices
          • US Oil Companies (the price of oil was dropping precariously close to the level that extraction in the US was losing profitability!)
          • Russia - who wants to provide the minerals and fertilizers to the rest of the world, in the same way they do oil)

          Who has the Iran war hurt?

          • The US economy (inflation is going to get the GOP routed in the fall!)
          • NATO (the US insisting that our DEFENSIVE allies participate in an OFFENSIVE war is putting the aliance in jeopardy - much to the great JOY of Russia)
          • the Arabian peninsula (all countries in the Arabian Gulf region are being threatened, attached, and badly damaged - by both Israel & Iran
          • Virtually all other European & Asian countries, for whom Arabian oil is the fuel for their economies.

          It's a common criminal's response to an accusation: claim others are doing it also (whether true ot not doesn't matter - you're a criminal, so truth means nothing to you!)

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            • raphjdR Offline
              raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth
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              @bi4smooth said:

              bi4smooth
              a day ago

              IMHO, you nitwits only complain and make accusations about Dems & China as a distraction from the obvious influence Russia has over Trump.

              Clearly, as a leftist, you "forgot" the video of Obama telling that Russian guy that once Obama was re-elected, he'd be in a better position to help Russia. I can't remember the guy's name, but he was 2nd only to Putin.

              You also forgot that your beloved Dems (Obama, Hillary, etc) were in cahoots with Russia to smear Trump with the Steele Dossier.

              It's comical how you claim to be a conservative while deflecting from the sweetheart relationship Biden and the DNC had with China.

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              • B Offline
                blablarg18 @raphjd
                last edited by blablarg18

                @raphjd also, Russia only invaded under Dems.

                2014 Crimea - Obama wrung his hands, but did little.

                2022 - Kamabla speaks her usual Kamabla 🤦 at Munich Security conference; it's a disaster; Putin invades 1 week later.

                I'm sure Trump works with China sometimes, fights China other times, works with Russia sometimes, fights Russia other times.

                & I feel Trump -maybe- has better intentions, & for sure has better execution, than fucking retarded Bush - Cheney - Hillary (Uranium One scandal much??) - Obama - Biden - Kamabla

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                • bi4smoothB Offline
                  bi4smooth @raphjd
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                  @raphjd
                  Wait, what? The DEMS are the ones colluding with Russia?
                  I thought it was Trump colluding with Russia, and the Dems were colluding with China?

                  I'm sorry - don't blame ME if your conspiracy theories go in circles and can't keep alighments right...

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                  • raphjdR Offline
                    raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth
                    last edited by raphjd

                    @bi4smooth

                    So you don't remember that video of Obama.

                    The Bidens were dirty as fuck. Their dirtiness involved Russia, Ukraine, China, and countless others.

                    As @blablarg18 pointed it out, Russia invaded during Dems, not Trump. Obama allowed Russia to invade Crimea without doing a thing.

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                      blablarg18 @raphjd
                      last edited by blablarg18

                      @raphjd Someone (libs? CIA?) has scrubbed 2012 Medvedev-Obama video but not every text report (yet).

                      https://www.reuters.com/article/world/obama-tells-russias-medvedev-more-flexibility-after-election-idUSBRE82P0JI/

                      SEOUL (Reuters) - President Barack Obama was caught on camera on Monday assuring outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he will have "more flexibility" to deal with contentious issues like missile defense after the U.S. presidential election.
                      Obama, during talks in Seoul, urged Moscow to give him "space" until after the November ballot, and Medvedev said he would relay the message to incoming Russian president Vladimir Putin.

                      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-more-flexibility-russia/

                      "This is my last election ... After my election I have more flexibility," Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term. [ed: rigged? by marginal vote fakery? or just by psy ops / rigged events?]

                      "I will transmit this information to Vladimir," said Medvedev, Putin's protégé and long considered number two in Moscow's power structure.

                      Why "transmit to Vladimir"? Only if it helps Russia. In code, Obama 1. knew Romney defeat was arranged, 2. promised concessions to Putin.

                      Like............... with 20/20 hindsight............................... ....Crimea.

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