Torrent did disappear
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@MrMazda said in Torrent did disappear:
@ianfontinell-0 Wrong again... They're only "theoretical files" when you're working with the same torrent client on both ends. If you're dealing with a different torrent client however, they absolutely do get downloaded and take up space, which is part of why they're not allowed. I can't count the number of padding files I have downloaded and been dinged for because I don't use the same torrent client as the uploader.
That's the problem with padding files. They're specific to each individual torrent client. Once you use a different client, they are no longer "theoretical files" and only serve as a way of artificially inflating the size of the torrent. Granted, this inflation is very minimal, unless the size of the torrent is huge, but that's besides the point.
gaytor.rent is the first site where I do encounter a mod removing my torrent because I use hybrid. gay-torrents.net are way more friendly to such huge uploaders as I am. If this resource does not need my services, I will leave. Best luck for keeping up the community with rules which are not documented in the Guides
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I did almost 100 uploads here using hybrid of qBittorrent, never had a problem with moderation until last time.
The torrent is 90GB and I will not reupload it as I have in a pipeline 30+ OnlyFans which I may decide to upload elsewhere to some more friendly moderation
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I will say: padding files are nice for a downloader (I think - I'm not as in-depth technically as some people here) because if I want 2 files, with padding I (basically) only get those two files. Without padding, I end up also getting the 'surrounding' files, which can be wasted GBs of storage that add up fast. At least I think that's what I've experienced, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are absolute evil. Thank you for deleting over 80 my torrents, which I did produce through last years.
I did remove my last two by myself and I request to remove all hybrid torrents, which for unknown reason you did not delete.
I am moving over to gay-torrents.net, where moderation is adequate
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@MrMazda I apologize for the insistence but your answer to my message regarding to padding files is outdated, I am reaching out because I think what you're doing is harming the community, even if trying to help.
What you said about padding files being tied to specific clients, and those files being actually downloaded, was the case in the past. This happened before the existence of Bittorrent v2 protocol. This protocol was first introduced only years ago in 2020. Surely padding files were a thing long before that, following what you have said: each client had their own interpretation and there was no overall compatibility between different clients.
Those torrents, despite having padding information, were not v2 or hybrid, they used Bittorrent v1 protocol (as v2 still didn't exist). V1-only torrents should never have padding information. So in this sense, if you can tell a torrent is not v2/hybrid and has those padding files, you are correct in removing them.
Bittorrent v2 is a totally different implementation, it is not any client's own interpretation but rather it is a direct implementetion right into the bittorrent protocol itself. Hybrid torrents fall back to Bittorrent v1 protocol (without padding) if the user's client isn't compatible with v2. Meaning Hybrid torrents are backwards compatible with any torrent client.
For instance, qBittorrent has 2 main versions, one using Libtorrent 1.2 and another using Libtorrent 2.0. You can make a hybrid torrent using LT 2.0 version and it will be backwards compatible with any torrent client. As a matter of fact most QT users use the regular LT 1.2 version, so the hybrid torrents will always fall back to v1 protocol for them.
Bittorrent v2 protocol has performance issues and adoption has been very slow (granted it's only 6 years old) but hybrid torrents can still be used by any torrent client. When a hybrid torrent is loaded in a v1-only client it will not use the new sha-256 hash tree for individual files, but the regular sha-1 hash tree which does not include any padding information.
When the tracker reports a size that is bigger than the size of all files, but the torrent client reports a smaller file... That is a hybrid torrent, it's not inflating any number and is not transferring any garbage file.
As for the tracker, what should happen is that, when a torrent is flagged as hybrid, it should ignore the padding files from the total size and hide them from the file list, and only delete torrents that contain padding files but are not hybrid.
PS: I was gonna send a PM but it was too long.
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@ianfontinell-0 Well... As it just so happens, this very thing has come up in staff conversations, so we're taking another look at this. I don't know about what it would take to do this on the tracker end, but there is a possibility that this policy might change, as the padding file policy did come before 2020.
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@dargard-0 They have not been outright deleted. They have currently only been moved to a category that is only visible to staff. There is currently some staff discussion about this very topic right now, so nothing is set in stone as of yet.
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@dargard-0 said in Torrent did disappear:
You are absolute evil. Thank you for deleting over 80 my torrents, which I did produce through last years.
I did remove my last two by myself and I request to remove all hybrid torrents, which for unknown reason you did not delete.
I am moving over to gay-torrents.net, where moderation is adequate
That earned you a 7-day forum ban.
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@ianfontinell-0 I also wanted to thank you... Disagreeing with staff, or even having a different opinion is not an issue. It's often how we learn and grow. What gives you credit in my book is that you can express this different view in a civilized and respectful manner.
So kudos to you for being able to challenge something that you don't agree with like a mature, responsible, and civilized adult. I can't speak for all staff when I say this, but at least for me, being able to approach something in a civilized and respectful manner will go a very long way, but flying off the handle, or resorting to personal attacks, or otherwise being nasty about a disagreement or difference of opinion is more likely to get a response from me along the lines of "Ouch... You hurt me right where I don't give a f*ck!"
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@MrMazda said in Torrent did disappear:
What gives you credit in my book is that you can express this different view in a civilized and respectful manner.
If only you could see my original message lol
It's so easy to take things personally that, even being aware of this, that often isn't enough to stop me. But despite my disagreements with some rules (among some other frustrations), I absolutely love this site, and I come here every day, and I'm very appreciative of the people like you who chose to work for free just out of feeling the same way.
And just like you said, that's how we learn, and I have learned some new technical stuff about torrents along the way.
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