DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension
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@john32123666 I'm not questioning the site's right to do whatever they please. I'm just curious why the number fluctuates and if there was actually a trigger number written in stone.
It is important to know because in the future if I ever share again, I won't post Model A gets fucked by Model B, Model A gets fucked by Model C, model A fucks Model D, and risk Model A reporting 3 uploads, that is three strikes. I'll just upload them as a set and only risk one.
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@duncanlem Unfortunately, mods and other staff do not have access to this information, so we cannot say for sure.
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@duncanlem I am not going to repeat the fact that gay porn is legally considered obscene and therefore cannot be copyrighted - because I have pointed that out many times already.
It looks like you were suspended for posting OnlyFans content. Perhaps this site should just ban certain content - such as everything from OnlyFans - instead of invoking fake DMCA reports. Obviously if one video from OnlyFans violates the fake DMCA reports, then all of them do.
That does not bother me much, because OnlyFans has become a scam to take people's money, and instead of giving them what they pay for, they are then given censored versions of content, which requires ADDITIONAL payment. Even then, the uncensored versions are almost always solos, very short videos, very low quality videos typically recorded on cell phones, and lack any passion or penetration. Even the OnlyFans performers complain that the content they post gets REMOVED by Onlyfans for being too "explicit".
I notice that Miss Reno Gold has not put out a single video in 2023. She must be fed up with Onlyfans as well. In fact, from experience, I know that the people who post complaints are usually... OTHER PERFORMERS! If Model A is posting R rated content, while Model B is posting XXX rated content - Model A is going to try and prevent Model B from posting XXX rated content.
One other thing.... in an ironic twist... content that is NOT obscene IS covered by copyrights! So, a video of two guys fucking ass and cumming in each other's mouths is NOT covered by a copyright because it is obscene... while videos of the same guys posting in a jockstrap is not obscene - and IS covered by a copyright! Frankly, there should be a ban on NON-SEX videos!
One last point which is important - just because something is obscene does not make it illegal. Something obscene is not eligible for a copyright.
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@lololulu19 I don't think GT wants to do away with OF content. They are just honoring the wishes of the content creators when they report that their material was posted. Searching the site you'll see that there is OF content that has been up for ages. Hell, I have OF torrents I created 1-2 years ago that as still going strong.
I thought about it quite a bit last night and this third suspension has made me decide to stop uploading torrents here. I'll continue to enjoy the site and seed torrents I download. I'm just not going to originate any new content. I'll leave the new uploads to other folk and there are PLENTY of people uploading new stuff daily.
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I found a TAKEN DOWN video on this site! Should I report it?
https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=644f6e9f599b40b4f6f43426e31267c08990d0142d057280
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@duncanlem plenty of people uploading GARBAGE, let's face it.
Regarding to OF content, each creator has the option to pay to have their content monitored all over the internet and removed just as soon as they are uploaded ilegally.
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@duncanlem thanks for posting on the DMCA strikes bc as a long time uploader and downloader I never encountered any type of suspension until this past year and going forward. To my understanding this was a SHARE site and to to the very nature of sharing storebought or however you obtain is "illegal" but we do it here. Anywho while I wait out this latest suspension I will continue to support the room and SEED indefinitely however my UPLOAD DAYZ ARE GONE I am not gonna play the risk game only to lose my rites in the long run.
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@dat1hungdude In addition to a DMCA policy, a site such as this should also have a Repeat Infringer Policy. It does not need to be public, and can be an internal document, but it should govern the actions around users who repeatedly upload copyrighted content.
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@rnd256 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
In addition to a DMCA policy, a site such as this should also have a Repeat Infringer Policy.
They do ... and stated in [TAKE DOWN PROCEDURE] ...
SEE : https://www.gaytor.rent/dmca.php ...- The site has the right to terminate the account of repeat copyright infringers.
also applied on uploading BANNED CONTENT / https://www.gaytor.rent/rules.php#102
and GENERAL RULES [behavior] / https://www.gaytor.rent/rules.php#73 -
@john32123666 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
This is interesting information--and new to me. Is it linked to anywhere in the rules or elsewhere? Having a page of policy that nobody can get to isn't helpful.
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@eobox91103 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
@john32123666 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
This is interesting information--and new to me. Is it linked to anywhere in the rules or elsewhere? Having a page of policy that nobody can get to isn't helpful.
You're trolling, right?
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@eobox91103 It's right below the link for the helpdesk in the support dropdown
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@frostycab said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
It's right below the link for the helpdesk in the support dropdown
Thanks; I see it now, but what an odd place to put it. I would have simply appended it to the "Rules" page. New users might not know what "DMCA" means, and could easily miss this stuff.
A good maxim for web content is "Don't just post something so that users can find it; post it so that users can't miss it."
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Uploading porn does not violate copyright law since porn cannot be copyrighted because it is considered obscene. However, content containing minors is illegal in it's content and cannot be produced, sold, distributed, possessed, or viewed. The intent of that law is to protect children, and they define minors as anybody 17 or under. There have been a few 17 year olds in porn which caused a tidal wave of controversy such as Brent Corrigan aka Sean Paul Lockhart aka Fox Ryder, Traci Lords, Oliver Krist, and others. Then a wave of trolls started attacking any performer who even LOOKED young, even if verified to be 18 or older. This caused a problem for Staxus. It is commonplace for STRAIGHT porn to portray girls who look underage but get away with it, and also asian females tend to look very young, but that is overlooked too. My solution to that is to ban all content containing females. Meanwhile, the site gets flooded with content from the completely legally copyrighted "Ru Paul" and a load of non-pornographic themed movies which are legally copyrighted.
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@lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
Uploading porn does not violate copyright law since porn cannot be copyrighted because it is considered obscene.
Repeating this ad nauseum does little to change anyone's mind. As I've pointed out on several occasions in the past you seem to be under the impression that something you've read online somewhere applies globally. Even if porn couldn't be copyrighted wherever you are, that does not mean that anything in other parts of the world.
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@frostycab if there is no USA copyright, then there is no copyright.
I agree that repeating something ad nauseum does not make it true. The issue of DMCA takedowns due to copyrights has been mentioned hundreds of times here. I have pointed out several times that those ad nauseum, baseless assertiions are nonsense. If they were true, this site and at least 3 other major gay porn torrent sites would not exist.
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@lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
if there is no USA copyright, then there is no copyright.
Wow....
(Sorry about the late response, but I had to nip down to the doctor. He told me I'd strained my eyes by rolling them too hard.
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@lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
if there is no USA copyright, then there is no copyright.
[smh] ... even if images such as photos you taken/posted online are [still] subjected to copyright or protected by law ... -
To the people who actually believe that gay porn has legitimate copyrights, I suggest you leave this site.. because I have a secret for you, there is gay porn on this site! SHOCKING!
At the entrances to shops that sell porn, they have signs up saying that there is no admittance for anybody who is a member of law enforcement. Similarly, this site should have a disclaimer when signing up which asks "Do you think that sharing gay porn is legal?" and if the person clicks "NO", then they should be redirected to the website of the Disney Channel.
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@lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
To the people who actually believe that gay porn has legitimate copyrights, I suggest you leave this site..
Thank you. Your suggestion has been considered and thrown in the bin. The reciprocal of your idea also applies if you feel like taking that option.
@lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:
At the entrances to shops that sell porn, they have signs up saying that there is no admittance for anybody who is a member of law enforcement.
Gotta say, I've never seen that in the UK. Or Amsterdam. Or Prague. Or Spain. Or Germany. Guess they'd better all close up shop in case Buford T Justice happens to drive past while he's chasing The Bandit.
As has been said many times before, this site is not a democracy. The site owner gets to decide what happens on here. If they choose to comply with DMCA, most likely having sought legal guidance on the issue from a professional and not someone with a tinfoil hat on, then that is up to them.
We, the members, do not own the site. We are not responsible for it. The site goes to great lengths to protect its members' anonymity. The owners do not have that protection, so they can do what they like as far as I'm concerned.
As I said, even if there is some bizarre law or statute wherever you are, that has limitations. Porn can be and is copyrighted in many countries, and that copyright is applied to all signatories of the Berne Convention, including the US.
A (fairly long!) article on porn copyright on Lexology reads:
"Similarly, a French court[28] recently held[29] that copyright will not be denied to pornographic work only because of its genre and that the choices governing the design can be considered as original for copyright purposes. In the Australian case Venus Adult Shops,[30] dealing with copyright infringement of pornographic films, the Federal Court held that there is no statutory basis in the Copyright Act 1968 to refuse copyright on the grounds of content or offensive subject-matter of the work in question."
Regarding the UK it goes on to state:
"It is therefore reasserted that copyright law should acknowledge automatic and content-neutral creation of copyright for all works satisfying the legal requirements of copyrightability, including those at the verge of illegality (such as pornography), since the societal value judgments, including morality and public interest, are constantly developing in time and space; and that correspondingly, copyright should serve its "expressive value for society"[39] by promoting free expression or challenging these value judgments."
Now please do tell us all how your US-centric ideas trump the laws of other countries.
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