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      A Former User @duncanlem
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      @duncanlem plenty of people uploading GARBAGE, let's face it.

      Regarding to OF content, each creator has the option to pay to have their content monitored all over the internet and removed just as soon as they are uploaded ilegally.

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        dat1hungdude @duncanlem
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        @duncanlem thanks for posting on the DMCA strikes bc as a long time uploader and downloader I never encountered any type of suspension until this past year and going forward. To my understanding this was a SHARE site and to to the very nature of sharing storebought or however you obtain is "illegal" but we do it here. Anywho while I wait out this latest suspension I will continue to support the room and SEED indefinitely however my UPLOAD DAYZ ARE GONE I am not gonna play the risk game only to lose my rites in the long run.

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          rnd256 @dat1hungdude
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          @dat1hungdude In addition to a DMCA policy, a site such as this should also have a Repeat Infringer Policy. It does not need to be public, and can be an internal document, but it should govern the actions around users who repeatedly upload copyrighted content.

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            john32123666 @rnd256
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            @rnd256 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

            In addition to a DMCA policy, a site such as this should also have a Repeat Infringer Policy.

            They do ... and stated in [TAKE DOWN PROCEDURE] ...
            SEE : https://www.gaytor.rent/dmca.php ...

            • The site has the right to terminate the account of repeat copyright infringers.

            also applied on uploading BANNED CONTENT / https://www.gaytor.rent/rules.php#102
            and GENERAL RULES [behavior] / https://www.gaytor.rent/rules.php#73

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              eobox91103 @john32123666
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              @john32123666 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

              SEE : https://www.gaytor.rent/dmca.php

              This is interesting information--and new to me. Is it linked to anywhere in the rules or elsewhere? Having a page of policy that nobody can get to isn't helpful.

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                john32123666 @eobox91103
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                @eobox91103 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

                @john32123666 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

                SEE : https://www.gaytor.rent/dmca.php

                This is interesting information--and new to me. Is it linked to anywhere in the rules or elsewhere? Having a page of policy that nobody can get to isn't helpful.

                You're trolling, right?

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                  frostycab @eobox91103
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                  @eobox91103 It's right below the link for the helpdesk in the support dropdown

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                    eobox91103 @frostycab
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                    @frostycab said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

                    It's right below the link for the helpdesk in the support dropdown

                    Thanks; I see it now, but what an odd place to put it. I would have simply appended it to the "Rules" page. New users might not know what "DMCA" means, and could easily miss this stuff.

                    A good maxim for web content is "Don't just post something so that users can find it; post it so that users can't miss it."

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                      lololulu19 @Guest
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                      Uploading porn does not violate copyright law since porn cannot be copyrighted because it is considered obscene. However, content containing minors is illegal in it's content and cannot be produced, sold, distributed, possessed, or viewed. The intent of that law is to protect children, and they define minors as anybody 17 or under. There have been a few 17 year olds in porn which caused a tidal wave of controversy such as Brent Corrigan aka Sean Paul Lockhart aka Fox Ryder, Traci Lords, Oliver Krist, and others. Then a wave of trolls started attacking any performer who even LOOKED young, even if verified to be 18 or older. This caused a problem for Staxus. It is commonplace for STRAIGHT porn to portray girls who look underage but get away with it, and also asian females tend to look very young, but that is overlooked too. My solution to that is to ban all content containing females. Meanwhile, the site gets flooded with content from the completely legally copyrighted "Ru Paul" and a load of non-pornographic themed movies which are legally copyrighted.

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                        frostycab @lololulu19
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                        @lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

                        Uploading porn does not violate copyright law since porn cannot be copyrighted because it is considered obscene.

                        Repeating this ad nauseum does little to change anyone's mind. As I've pointed out on several occasions in the past you seem to be under the impression that something you've read online somewhere applies globally. Even if porn couldn't be copyrighted wherever you are, that does not mean that anything in other parts of the world.

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                          lololulu19 @frostycab
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                          @frostycab if there is no USA copyright, then there is no copyright.

                          I agree that repeating something ad nauseum does not make it true. The issue of DMCA takedowns due to copyrights has been mentioned hundreds of times here. I have pointed out several times that those ad nauseum, baseless assertiions are nonsense. If they were true, this site and at least 3 other major gay porn torrent sites would not exist.

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                            frostycab @lololulu19
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                            @lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

                            if there is no USA copyright, then there is no copyright.

                            Wow....

                            (Sorry about the late response, but I had to nip down to the doctor. He told me I'd strained my eyes by rolling them too hard. 🤦 )

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                              john32123666 @lololulu19
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                              @lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

                              if there is no USA copyright, then there is no copyright.

                              🙄 [smh] ... even if images such as photos you taken/posted online are [still] subjected to copyright or protected by law ...

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                                lololulu19
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                                To the people who actually believe that gay porn has legitimate copyrights, I suggest you leave this site.. because I have a secret for you, there is gay porn on this site! SHOCKING!

                                At the entrances to shops that sell porn, they have signs up saying that there is no admittance for anybody who is a member of law enforcement. Similarly, this site should have a disclaimer when signing up which asks "Do you think that sharing gay porn is legal?" and if the person clicks "NO", then they should be redirected to the website of the Disney Channel.

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                                  frostycab @lololulu19
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                                  @lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

                                  To the people who actually believe that gay porn has legitimate copyrights, I suggest you leave this site..

                                  Thank you. Your suggestion has been considered and thrown in the bin. The reciprocal of your idea also applies if you feel like taking that option.

                                  @lololulu19 said in DMCA strikes and the 90-day suspension:

                                  At the entrances to shops that sell porn, they have signs up saying that there is no admittance for anybody who is a member of law enforcement.

                                  Gotta say, I've never seen that in the UK. Or Amsterdam. Or Prague. Or Spain. Or Germany. Guess they'd better all close up shop in case Buford T Justice happens to drive past while he's chasing The Bandit. 🤦

                                  As has been said many times before, this site is not a democracy. The site owner gets to decide what happens on here. If they choose to comply with DMCA, most likely having sought legal guidance on the issue from a professional and not someone with a tinfoil hat on, then that is up to them.

                                  We, the members, do not own the site. We are not responsible for it. The site goes to great lengths to protect its members' anonymity. The owners do not have that protection, so they can do what they like as far as I'm concerned.

                                  As I said, even if there is some bizarre law or statute wherever you are, that has limitations. Porn can be and is copyrighted in many countries, and that copyright is applied to all signatories of the Berne Convention, including the US.

                                  A (fairly long!) article on porn copyright on Lexology reads:

                                  "Similarly, a French court[28] recently held[29] that copyright will not be denied to pornographic work only because of its genre and that the choices governing the design can be considered as original for copyright purposes. In the Australian case Venus Adult Shops,[30] dealing with copyright infringement of pornographic films, the Federal Court held that there is no statutory basis in the Copyright Act 1968 to refuse copyright on the grounds of content or offensive subject-matter of the work in question."

                                  Regarding the UK it goes on to state:

                                  "It is therefore reasserted that copyright law should acknowledge automatic and content-neutral creation of copyright for all works satisfying the legal requirements of copyrightability, including those at the verge of illegality (such as pornography), since the societal value judgments, including morality and public interest, are constantly developing in time and space; and that correspondingly, copyright should serve its "expressive value for society"[39] by promoting free expression or challenging these value judgments."

                                  Now please do tell us all how your US-centric ideas trump the laws of other countries.

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                                    lololulu19 @frostycab
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                                    @frostycab What a pile of manure.

                                    What are you doing here, if you believe that the content of this site is illegal? It isn't.

                                    Also, who gives a damn about Germany, France, Spain, etc. They are all fucked and in the toilet. The US will be joining them in the toilet if we get 4 more years of Brandon.

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                                      tnar @lololulu19
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                                      @lololulu19 Please take your politics to the politics section.

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                                        raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                        @lololulu19 is correct that obscenity can not be copyrighted in most western countries.

                                        The dispute comes in on what is considered obscene.

                                        Porn is legal in most western countries, with some exceptions on type.

                                        The US used to ban fully naked men, but now they allow gay porn.

                                        The UK used to have a law that banned erections more erect than the UK was on a map. That law changed sometime around John Major and Tony Blair. Tony Blair criminalized porn that was previously illegal, such as female ejaculation.

                                        He also banned any porn that degraded women, but the same porn that degraded men is still legal. Porn where a woman is shit or pissed on is illegal, but the same happening to men is legal.

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                                          duncanlem
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                                          No comment on the legal v illegal chat taking place. I just thought I'd add some info to the DMCA strikes and suspension I originally posted about.

                                          The only thing I have uploaded recently was a set of thumbs from a large OF post someone posted without thumbs. That post is still active. Also a CB show, that is still running strong as well. Prior to that I haven't uploaded anything in 39 weeks.

                                          1 week ago I received a notice saying something I uploaded 1-2 years ago was removed and 4 days ago I got another notice for something that was old to be removed. Two strikes, just two.

                                          Today I downloaded the Garrett Nolan torrent and saw people were asking for thumbs so I created some thumbs and just went to upload them. Turns out two strikes gets you suspended now. I'm on my 4th 90-day suspension LOL

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                                            eobox91103 @tnar
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                                            @tnar (and all others): If you click on a user's name, it will bring up their profile page. One can then click on the three vertical dots, and select "Ignore User," which I have done for a few users (including one beginning with "L") so that I don't have to read anything she/he/it posts. It's always the same thing, and I don't need to read it again.

                                            As a related convenient feature of the forums, one can also block specific forum categories, which I have also done.

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