UK liberals and nationalists - why I hate them
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I'm a dual national; US/UK. I live in Scotland and have done so for the last 14 years.
The rabidly anti-English are the same ones that are pro-EU.
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that doesnt say anything of your ability to understand other people. racist arent really known for their ability to understand other people.
I'm a dual national; US/UK. I live in Scotland and have done so for the last 14 years.
The rabidly anti-English are the same ones that are pro-EU.
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And there it is. I'm done with you.
Like all liberals, you can't have an honest discussion.
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theres nothings dishonest with saying that racists are bad at understanding other people, it's basically a universal fact and the fundamental basis for racism.
@raphjd:And there it is. I'm done with you.
Like all liberals, you can't have an honest discussion.
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Child molesters like you need to call people "racist" and "alt-right" because you have nothing else.
See how that works.
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oh my god is calling me a child molester the best you can do? really very pathetic of you. seems like you want to accuse me of insulting you when its exactly the opposite. childish.
the point i was trying to make is that racist are bad at understanding other people by definition. its cute however that you admit that racist and alt right is something you dont like to be called.
Child molesters like you need to call people "racist" and "alt-right" because you have nothing else.
See how that works.
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If you could read, you would have understood the point I was making. Clearly you are dumber than I thought.
The only "argument" you have is to call your enemies "racist", "alt-right", etc, etc, etc. That is what I don't like. You cant have an honest discussion so you resort to the liberal debate tactics.
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ah, the obvious lies of the alt right people! most people would not try to argue that personal attacks and attempted insults is not the same as "makiing a point". instead it makes you seem ridiculous and naive.
no i mean i like that you consider it an insult to be called alt right and racist, because both are in my opinion really quite bad. but my point is that psyhologically and mentally, racists havent really developed a well functioning understanding of other people, and even if thats quite sad its also fascinating.
If you could read, you would have understood the point I was making. Clearly you are dumber than I thought.
The only "argument" you have is to call your enemies "racist", "alt-right", etc, etc, etc. That is what I don't like. You cant have an honest discussion so you resort to the liberal debate tactics.
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But see, you are a child molester because I dont like what you say.
While it may not be the words you use, its exactly what you do.
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the difference is that you being racist alt right neo nazi is way more feasible based on your opinions here on the forum than randomly calling someone a child molester out of nowhere. you really are ridiculous and naive if you cant spot the difference.
But see, you are a child molester because I dont like what you say.
While it may not be the words you use, its exactly what you do.
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Of course, it is, because you're a liberal.
Let's not forget that it's liberals who are trying to make child molester socially acceptable. What's the new name you guys came up for them? MAP; Minor Attracted Person.
Oh, and how can I be racist, I'm against mostly white Europeans. "Hating" white people can't be racist, or don't you know your own religion?
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hahaha youre really insane if you think being liberal is the same as wanting to make child molestation socially acceptable. its even more insane than the people who extrapolate gay marriage to bestiality. youre making this discussion ridiculous.
@raphjd:Of course, it is, because you're a liberal.
Let's not forget that it's liberals who are trying to make child molester socially acceptable. What's the new name you guys came up for them? MAP; Minor Attracted Person.
Oh, and how can I be racist, I'm against mostly white Europeans. "Hating" white people can't be racist, or don't you know your own religion?
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It's not conservatives that made up MAP and defending child molesters.
If you get to call me all those names, then I get to call you a child molester. Fair is fair.
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again, i love how you pretend to act offended by being called out for being alt right neo nazi racist, and how the only response you can imagine is to call liberals child molesters. its very cute but also quite insane.
@raphjd:It's not conservatives that made up MAP and defending child molesters.
If you get to call me all those names, then I get to call you a child molester. Fair is fair.
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If you can sling names, so can I.
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Not sure why you equate calling racist alt right neo nazi racist alt right neo nazi, based on their expressed opinions here on this forum, with slinging completely randomly generated insults without any feasible basis.
If you can sling names, so can I.
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I think ti's time for you to go away as you have nothing of importance to say other than to repeat your liberal crap.
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if anything is off topic here is your boring insults… while i still believe that youre a racist alt right neo nazi it is at least based on what youve posted here on this forum. youre just being random.@raphjd:
I think ti's time for you to go away as you have nothing of importance to say other than to repeat your liberal crap.
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Its liberal media that has pro-child molester articles.
It's liberals that invented the term MAP (Minor Attracted Person).
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In the UK, it's wonderful to be a nationalist (Scottish, Welsh, NI), unless you are an English nationalist. If you are an English nationalist, you are literally worse than Hitler. The other "countries" in the UK get to celebrate their patron's day, but England can't because being proud to be English makes you an IST.
You inflate the issue massively. The Daily Mail would have you believe that hanging the saint Georges cross will have you hung, drawn and quartered. Not true. If you want an example of blatant English nationalism, just wait for international football.
NI, Scottish and Welsh nationalists, despite wanting to leave the UK, want to force the UK to remain in the EU. Quite hypocritical, I must say. If you want to leave the UK, then work on that, not on trying to force the UK to stay in the EU.
Scotland voted in favour of remaining in the UK, partly because it guaranteed they would remain in the EU. pre 2016, the idea of a welsh exit was near unthinkable - they've been tied to England for time immemorial. An Irish exit would shatter the GFA. Then Brexit happened. We, the English, are now forcing the smaller countries out of the EU - why? Because we outnumber them. You can see why nationalists might be annoyed. They have every right to make their view heard, just as much as Brexit supporters do.
I just watched a Welsh nationalist on Channel 4 (I think) and he's adamant that the UK must stay in the EU while talking about independence. He also blamed Westminster for absolutely everything, even the stuff that is devolved.
Scotland is the same. Everything is Westminster's fault, even when the issue is devolved. The SNP have been in power for 12 years, yet they can't/won't pass an all party supported parking bill, an issue that has been devolved from the start. They also blame Westminster for welfare, despite it being devolved for 3 years and the SNP declaring that Holyrood WON'T take it over until at least 2024 at the earliest. Oddly, Holyrood raised income taxes to bolster welfare, but since they don't deal with welfare, they haven't told us what they are doing with the extra money.
I can't really speak for the views of a single welsh nationalist in an interview i haven't seen. The SNP and the parking bill is their own issue, and nothing to do with opposition to English nationalism. Their screw up with the welfare system is the same - I've seen no evidence of blame being placed upon Westminster, unless you're talking about complaints of the UK welfare system in general. Even the English blame Westminster for that - It's a genuine complaint over a system plagued with problems.
The Labour Party is lead by Jeremy Corbyn, who hasn't met a terrorist he hasn't worshipped. He was a staunch anti-EUer, but recently he decided he loves the EU. The Labour Party is a jew hating party since Corbyn took over, but it was there under the surface before that.
Corbyn leads a democratic party subject to the will of its members. Whatever his view on the EU, it's his job to represent the party. He can offer directions, but its the labour party members who are driving. The current labour stance on Brexit? voted for by labour members. As for anti-semitism, its clearly a problem within the party, and one that they've been criticised for failing to tackle or for tackling too slowly, but it has nothing to do with liberalism or nationalism, so i'll leave that point there.
Watching anything on Brexit and the TV networks are extremely biased. The BBC is by far the worst, but Channel 4 is very close behind them. The BBC political show Question Time has had to hosts over the last 4 years and both are staunch remainers. They have 5 panel guests and 4 are always remain and 5th person is about 75% of the of the time a Brexiteer, but 25% of the time a remainer.
Discussions about Brexit are always the same. Remainers demonize Brexiteers, like Trump supporters in the US. They use the shotgun defense loaded with so many lies that there isn't time on TV/radio shows to debunk all of them.
Bias exists on both sides in the media. I rarely watch Question Time and i don't watch C4 so i cant answer for those specifically. The Media attempt to report what happens, and particularly with interviews, will try to present an opposing view. Else we'd just be watching politicians parroting their view over and over - they have to ask questions, get their interviewees to prove the points their making, point out holes in arguments and reveal consequences of their decisions. These are our public servants and shouldn't be allowed a free ride. With the consequences of some of the governments actions being potentially explosive, its right that they're scrutinised in the press. The opposition isn't immune to this, but the governments actions are frankly more news-worthy. Boris potentially breaking the law in a little over a week is more newsworthy than divisions in the opposition. so it gets more screen time and more column inches. This may appear biased but i assure you, if the opposition were planning to break the law to get Brexit through, it'd get much more attention.
Remainers demonize Brexiteers. Been called a traitor lately? It exists on both sides. Its an incredibly divisive issue and tempers are fraying. On. Both. Sides. You have some gall to mention liars in the remain side when the leave campaign was rife with them. What were the odds of no-deal? Wheres my £350 million?
If you listen to liberals, I have my LGBT rights thanks to the EU, which is total bullshit. The EU has not LGBT rights laws and allows member states to discriminate against LGBTs, as long as it doesn't violate the Human Rights laws.
I've never heard this stated before. Ever. Anyone worth listening to could point to numerous acts of the UK parliment which have cemented LGBT rights in this country.
The EU makes me fund, through taxes, animal blood "sports" like bullfighting and dog fighting because it's "cultural". I fucking despise animal abuse, but the cunts in the EU force me to fund it. Liberals turn a blind eye to this while praising the EU.
The EU is by no means a perfect institution. The best way to prevent this would be to affect change and reform from within rather than bugger off. There are plenty of examples of where my tax money goes that i'd rather it didn't. It doesn't hit the same headlines as animal cruelty, but my tax money goes to HS2 - I don't care half a shit about it. And yet i pay. Democracy sucks when people who disagree with your view also have a say right?
The so-called "tampon tax" is mandated by the EU. Under EU VAT rules, necessity items are taxed at 5%. Only a few things, mostly about babies, are tax exempt. Liberals, like always, ignore this, while praising the EU and demonizing nation states.
Assuming we are still in the EU by 2022, we will be able to put a 0% tax rate on tampons. Not as fast as you or I might like, but as i say the EU is not a perfect institution. Had we been participating in matters with the EU rather than attempting to have our cake and eat it, we might have got it done sooner.
Of course, the UK also has the violent thugs who beat up anyone they think disagrees with them. Thankfully, it's not as bad the US. There's the idiots that want everything to be free without being able to explain how things will be paid for.
Yes violence is bad. on this we can agree. As for idiots who want everything given to them for free - Anyone with any sense knows this is impossible - it has nothing to do with being a liberal or nationalist.
Also, like in the US, UK liberals want open borders with everyone having the imaginary utopia of a living wage, by just having the rich pay for everything. The idiots refuse to accept the several studies that show that if we took every penny from the "rich" it wouldn't even pay the national debt, let alone fund the on going bills.
Open borders? No. Inviting borders - yes. Nobody expects the rich to pay for everything. If you believe this, you're an idiot.
Likewise, as we recently saw in New York state, they have £27 million for illegal kids to go to college, among many other things, but only have $2.7 million for the kids of fallen soldiers and fallen first responders. The woman that headed the committee that put the bill forward, said she regrets that there wasn't anymore money of those who served the US and the state, but this (funding illegals) was a priority. Likewise, Montel Williams' charity had to buy an old manor house estate and convert it into a rehab for disabled UK soldiers, back when Labour was running the country.
What does NY have to do with UK liberals/Nationalists? I know nothing of Montys charity work, but i suspect he chose to set up help for disabled UK soldiers, as many charities do for many causes. Again, what does this have to do with UK nationalists/liberals?
Your entire post reads like an angry rant from a confused pensioner crossed with the stressful temper tantrum of an over emotional toddler.
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