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    • C Offline
      cannonmc
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      @sutieday:

      I came across https://linuxjourney.com/ seems to have a lot of useful information on Linux.

      Thank you, that seems a good tutorial site. I have tried Linux a few times and have given up because I couldn't get the hang of a few basics  🙂

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        sutieday
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        Unfortunately I had to switch back to Windows for the time being, Linux had issues with my drivers, and I can't count he times I've experienced system freezes  :cry2:. Unlike Windows, in Linux I can't use Ctrl+Alt+Esc to open the task manager and close a frozen application. And having the system crash and close all my open apps is pretty frustrating. So, bye bye Linux, at least for now.

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          Ronald1971
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          No doubt issues with your videocard (AMD).

          Problem is that AMD no longer makes drivers for the newest kernel (4.x) and the open source drivers for this kernel suck. You can circumvent this by using distro's that still use the 3.x kernels.

          For example you could use Linux Mint 17.3 and forget the message you will receive when updating, about the Hardware Enabled Stack (HWE). You won´t be receiving updates on your kernel and the video-drivers, but all other software will be supported until April 2019.

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            sutieday
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            Actually, my video card is Intel. I think the problem was with my installation of the intel-microcode package, which didn't suit too well with my hardware, and my use of the VLC daily stable PPA, because I wanted the latest stable VLC version since LTS software generally uses older packages; I think the VLC version it gave me (2.2.5) wasn't really that stable.

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              thefatmunky
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              Anyone using Linux on Mac?
              I'm looking for a compatible (working) version to use with "MacBookPro10,1". Anyone who has been able to do so successfully, pls let me know. Thanks!!

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                Ronald1971
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                @sutieday: then unfortunately I cannot help you. But you can always run Linux in a VM using for example Virtualbox

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                  sutieday
                  last edited by

                  I may just create a new partition on my drive and load Ubuntu on it, and then use Easy BCD to add it to the windows bootloader. But for now I'll stay on Windows. Thanks for the suggestions! @Ronald1971

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                  • JohnErynJ Offline
                    JohnEryn
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                    @sutieday:

                    @JohnEryn:

                    I have been using GNU/Linux regularly since 2014.

                    When I first used Ubuntu was in 2013, so at first I was like you, switching to Windows as soon as I could. But then I thought: “You only use Microsoft's operative system bc you need the Office suite and iTunes”. Then I learned enough with OpenOffice and began to use Rhythmbox only to extract music of mi iPod (bc I already put it all at that time: 32 GB of music), and suddenly I was completely in love with GNU/Linux.

                    The printers can be use as soon as you plugged them (in Windows you need to download the drivers or use the original CD), you don't really need to worry about viruses, and most of the programs are free and open, so you don't need any licenses or cracked versions of them. Etc… About the terminal, I'm so affraid of it as you. But I don't try to learn a lot of it, when I need to do something I just search for that in Google and then I follow the instructions closely. Nothing more, nothing less.

                    Two years now, it's like a marriage. Hahaha.  ;D

                    I think I will use virtualbox and install Windows so I can use apps such as Microsoft Access, PowerPoint etc. I don't like that I can't open access databases in Libreoffice, other than that the system is fine, and I can get the apps I want.  🙂

                    Or you can use PlayonLinux to install Office inside your main OS…  😉

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                      sutieday
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                      Has anyone tried Ubuntu 16.10? How is it? I usually try new releases of Ubuntu to see what has improved in regards to the desktop.

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                      • MrMazdaM Offline
                        MrMazda Global Moderator
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                        I don't have 16.10, however I do have 16.04, and its running beautifully, despite one little snag with Dropbox not wanting to cooperate with Gnome (Compiz or Metacity) for some unknown reason.

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                          cumeaternc
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                          I have tried many flavors of Linux over the years and so far my hands down favorite is Linux Mint 18 'Sarah'. I use the KDE 64bit version and it runs great on all my devices.  If you are a little bit uneasy about running strictly Linux then create a dual boot computer for Windows and Linux.  My main laptop is a triple boot: I have Linux Mint 18, Windows 7, and RemixOS(I like to play my android games at full speed and full screen).

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                            unpleased
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                            @thefatmunky:

                            Anyone using Linux on Mac?
                            I'm looking for a compatible (working) version to use with "MacBookPro10,1". Anyone who has been able to do so successfully, pls let me know. Thanks!!

                            From https://www.qubes-os.org/hcl/#hardware-laptops

                            • Model - Manufacturer and Devicename (Socket/CPU, Chipset/Southbridge, Graphics)

                            • BIOS - Reported BIOS version

                            • HVM - Intel VT-x or AMD-v technology (required for running HVM domains, such as Windows-based AppVMs)

                            • IOMMU - Intel VT-d or AMD IOMMU technology (required for effective isolation of network VMs and PCI passthrough)

                            • SLAT - Second Level Address Translation (SLAT): Intel VT-x support for Extended Page Tables (EPT) or AMD-V support for Rapid Virtualization Indexing (RVI).

                            • TPM - TPM with proper BIOS support (required for Anti Evil Maid)

                            • Qubes - Reported Qubes version (R=Release, rc=release candidate, B=Beta, i.e.: R1, R2B1, R2rc1)

                            • Kernel - Reported dom0 kernel version (numbers in uname -r), can be selected during installation and boot in Troubleshooting menu

                            • Remark - Further information field. Qubes, Kernel and this field is coloured in conjunction to reflect general machine compatibility

                            • Credit - Name linked to report in qubes-users

                            | Model | BIOS | HVM | IOMMU | SLAT | TPM | Qubes | Xen | Kernel | Remark | Credit |
                            | Apple Inc. MacBookPro 10,1 i7-3820QM Ivy GT 650M Mac Edition | MBP101.88Z.00EE.B07.1501071031 | yes | yes | unknown | unknown | R3.1 | 4.6.0 | 4.1.13-9 | https://groups.google.com/d/topic/qubes-users/pcPwoNsq-j8/discussion | Boris |
                            | Apple Inc. MacBookPro10,1 i7-3820QM Ivy Bridge NVIDIA GK107M | MBP101.88Z.00EE.B07.1501071031 | yes | yes | unknown | unknown | R3.1 | 4.6.0 | 4.1.13-9 | https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/VVwWqvz5dX4/Xbum_4MaCgAJ | Dave C |

                            You will want to download it from here: https://www.qubes-os.org/downloads/. The latest release (3.2) is working as well.
                            Follow the installation guide [ [url=https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/installation-guide/]https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/installation-guide/ ], then the instructions listed above (to install the broadcom driver).

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                            • MrMazdaM Offline
                              MrMazda Global Moderator
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                              If you like Slackware, even though it's not as user friendly as Ubuntu or Linux Mint, there is a version available for the Mac called Slackintosh 🙂

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                                Semtex
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                                What if, your not exactly noob but all you've ever known is Unity and now you're scared?

                                I've been trying the Gnome desktop on my laptop and apart from the not liking it because it's different it is also noticeably slower, even dramatically so.  Sure, the slow could be because I have it installed along side Unity but the not liking it because it's different, it is.

                                I take back saying Shuttleworth is the sexiest man alive.  My Dell tablets (ya dude I got a dell plural) were getting all ready for convergence and now because what exactly, not making enough profit yoink.  Pfft.  That wee conspiracy guy that is like a devil on my shoulder keeps yelling "This is what you get for getting in bed with Microsoft" and maybe I've been listening to him too much but…

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                                  sutieday
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                                  I really like Linux Mint as it has a lot of features to make the linux experience more comfortable for former Windows users. One thing I really dislike about Ubuntu was that it updated the kernel by default to newer versions and that led to me experiencing some regressions.

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                                  • MrMazdaM Offline
                                    MrMazda Global Moderator
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                                    @Semtex:

                                    What if, your not exactly noob but all you've ever known is Unity and now you're scared?

                                    I've been trying the Gnome desktop on my laptop and apart from the not liking it because it's different it is also noticeably slower, even dramatically so.  Sure, the slow could be because I have it installed along side Unity but the not liking it because it's different, it is.

                                    I take back saying Shuttleworth is the sexiest man alive.  My Dell tablets (ya dude I got a dell plural) were getting all ready for convergence and now because what exactly, not making enough profit yoink.  Pfft.  That wee conspiracy guy that is like a devil on my shoulder keeps yelling "This is what you get for getting in bed with Microsoft" and maybe I've been listening to him too much but…

                                    I would be inclined to recommend the gnome-session-fallback or gnome-session-flashback with Compiz instead of Unity. It's a lot more straight forward, and much less demanding on system resources. I also find it's a nice cross between the traditional Unity interface and more of a Windows type user experience. Once you get used to how you can fully customize it, I think you might find it's preferred over Unity.

                                    Whap The User
                                    The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                                      Rubber0
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                                      IMHO alert
                                      Using a Debian with GNOME/KDE/etc is not a challenge at all. For me it turned to be a real problem that software I need for my job is nowhere to be found for linux. E.g. After effects can't be run even under WINE, I'm not even talking about it's plugins. So using Windows is just a necessity. Mac could be the solving but customization there is a problem.

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                                      • MrMazdaM Offline
                                        MrMazda Global Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @Rubber0:

                                        IMHO alert
                                        Using a Debian with GNOME/KDE/etc is not a challenge at all. For me it turned to be a real problem that software I need for my job is nowhere to be found for linux. E.g. After effects can't be run even under WINE, I'm not even talking about it's plugins. So using Windows is just a necessity. Mac could be the solving but customization there is a problem.

                                        Haha… You've never used one of two strategies that I've used in situations like that. For one of the projects that I work with, it's either Dreamweaver, or nothing... So... I've installed a Virtual Machine within my Ubuntu installation that literally full on loads Windows 7 inside of Ubuntu. For this particular situation, problem solved.

                                        For the recording equipment on the other hand, I have yet to find a working driver for my VHS import gadget for example. So... On that machine, I've installed a dual-boot situation. This way, I can leave the computer primarily in Ubuntu, and when I need to make use of that particular hardware, which simply will NOT run in a kernel newer than 3.8.0-26-generic (which BTW has been discontinued as obsolete and isn't available past Ubuntu 12.04, and I'm now at 16.04).... It's a bit complex, but it accomplishes the mission at hand.

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