Sex!!! Condom or bareback?

[leatherbear]

I never come in my boys ass but rather on him!! However, I can imagine that leakage would be a problem :funny2: and would think that a"PURGE" of some sort would be required indeed!!!

[garjr71]

can somebody enlighten me on shower shot?
and no I haven't had anal yet (I actually had once, but it was too short to count)
cuddling and oral yes, but just once

~rR

[leatherbear]

Connects to shower ~ Used for deep enemas!!!

[whateva]

Condoms all the way until you go steady and get tested.

[kingcub]

Sex (I'm a Top) is always with condom.
Only exception when I'm in a stable relationship.

[MrMazda]

@kingcub:

Sex (I'm a Top) is always with condom.
Only exception when I'm in a stable relationship.

A wise practice. Never let your guard down with just anyone. I unfortunately had to learn that the hard way. Unless my partner becomes HIV+ (hoping he doesn't, but condoms do break), the rule is no love without a glove. Although I have to live the nightmare, I certainly wouldn't want to make anyone else have to deal with a mental ordeal, on top of a whopping $1533.53 CDN/mo just for the drugs needed to live, much less the ones to deal with their side effects as well.

[kingcub]

@MrMazda:

@kingcub:

Sex (I'm a Top) is always with condom.
Only exception when I'm in a stable relationship.

A wise practice. Never let your guard down with just anyone. I unfortunately had to learn that the hard way. Unless my partner becomes HIV+ (hoping he doesn't, but condoms do break), the rule is no love without a glove. Although I have to live the nightmare, I certainly wouldn't want to make anyone else have to deal with a mental ordeal, on top of a whopping $1533.53 CDN/mo just for the drugs needed to live, much less the ones to deal with their side effects as well.

Thanks, MrMazda.
I also do tend to use these sensitive condoms.
They're thin and strong in the right measures.

[mikyu]

always with condoms  :hug2:

[CableguyLive]

I always use a condom when fucking.  HIV is no joke and there's so many other thing you can get.  Now, if you and your lover are tested and not just one test but tested for years because AIDS hides and may not show up for up to 3 years on some tests, depending on the test used and your body.  It's not safe if you are both sexually active and have had unprotected sex in the last 3 years.  Sorry guys. Fucking can kill you if your not careful.  I hope this is not news to you.  Yes condoms are a pain and yes the feeling is not the same but death is final and being sick for years is not fun.  HIV is a long-term  sickness and it takes years to kill you and I've seen it and it's not fun.  Be informed and read up or you could be another statistic. I don't like using condoms and if AID didn't excise I wouldn't use one but that's for you to decide.

[Bottom1979]

@nagysanci:

I know. We also use shower shot and ours is also super clean, but I still have in mind that it is the place where feces comes from, so I insist on condoms even with my steady partner. We tried barebacks, too, but we did not feel the difference.

Just curious but do you rim your partner?

[pacifico]

Never had anal sex until now.

But a lot of times I wondered myself: what if with a condom you lose all the touch of your partner while having sex?  

Now I'm skeptic: condom or not condom???  ???

[MrMazda]

While it is true that a condom does take away from the sensation of the sex, again I must remind you that there's more than just the physical feeling. You need to be sure that the person you're doing it with is safe to do it with before walking into a bareback situation. If you're not careful, you can end up with quite the problem in the end. It's more than just living with something like HIV, it's also the side effects, the medication costs, and a boat load of other medical issues like co-infection that you have to begin to be more concerned about. Then again, you'd be surprised at what a person can make themselves do when their life depends on it.

[notquiteme]

safety first hehehe

[kojote]

If your safe..I'm in bare!!!

[Takato]

If I trust you and you're clean, bareback. If I don't trust you, no sex. If I'm unsure or you're pos, condom.

[richardg8092]

Wow.
"If I trust you and you're clean, bareback."    :afr:
Sorry, but this strikes me as crazy talk.  :crazy2:

What criteria do you use to decide that you can "trust" some-one ?
What criteria do you use to determine that some-one is "clean"?

Do you ask to see the most recent HIV test?  (Plus photo ID?)
Do you just trust some-one when they say "I always have protected sex - BUT for you I'll make a special exception…."

Safe sex is wild, hot, horny, uninhibited, gritty, dirty sex. It's Sex with gay abandon.  :cheesy2:
And unsafe sex? For me it's the Big Turn-Off. I just can't do sex and be constantly worrying "Is this the time…..?"  :blink:

For me, I don't care if your HIV+ or not......just roll on that condom and Fuck Me Hard!  :cheers:
(And sorry, but I find the term "clean" kind of offensive. If we've gotta use anything, let's use HIV- please.) 

[MrMazda]

One thing that you fail to take into account with an HIV test is that they're only really accurate to within the last 3 months on the most part. All it takes for the virus to be passed on is one single night of fun, without taking the proper steps. Take it from someone who is now HIV+ because they trusted the wrong person… One night of fun isn't worth the lifetime of problems that it can cause. Always assume that they are poz unless they are a monogamous life partner that you have grown to trust over time.

Not to mention, if you're having some random hookup with someone, you have to take into account that you're probably not the only person that they hook up with. For this reason alone, you can get caught with a surprise at any time, unexpectedly. While on this topic, I bet that you didn't know that over 60% of people who are newly diagnosed with HIV didn't even know they had it. In a case such as mine, you can think you're safe, but later come to discover that you had been carrying HIV for almost a year before you even knew about it, all because you trusted the wrong person.

Bottom line people... No love without a glove. I know I may sound like a broken record by repeating that over and over, but if you truly understood the mind f*** that it puts you through, along with the cost of the medications ($1533.53/mo just for the ones that keep me alive, much less the ones that deal with their side effects), the side effects of the medications, the chronic body aches in some cases, along with a number of more interesting things like discovering that your body will do things that you never thought possible, you would truly understand the importance of why it's just not worth it. You may want to do yourself a favour and re-think that policy of "trusting" someone before its too late. Don't get caught in the same trap that I did.

Another little food for thought... When you become HIV+ and go through that whole stage of mental instability (and trust me... it WILL happen no matter how educated or "prepared" for it that you are) and truly understand what it's like to be HIV+ in every regard, then you'll know what it's like to live with the burden of knowing you passed HIV onto someone all because you didn't know you had it. That's a guilt that you can never get rid of and will haunt you for the rest of your life (especially when that person commits suicide when they find out).

You may think that I'm just talking smack, but for those of you who don't know, take these words of advice from someone who has known that they're HIV+ since they found out on March 20, 2009 (almost 2 and a half years ago). I know of what I speak and sincerely hope that you don't make the same mistake that I did.

[leatherbear]

:true:

[Takato]

Sorry, but this strikes me as crazy talk.

Not really. I was just being brief without a decent explanation. I don't like long responses. 

What criteria do you use to decide that you can "trust" some-one ?
What criteria do you use to determine that some-one is "clean"?

I've pretty much only slept with people I've been in long-term committed relationships with.
Naturally, I use sound medical tests. If I have any doubt or concern, I use a condom.

Do you ask to see the most recent HIV test?  (Plus photo ID?)

Don't think photo ID is necessary for the people I sleep with. I only sleep with really close friends.

Do you just trust some-one when they say "I always have protected sex - BUT for you I'll make a special exception…."

I probably wouldn't. Then again, I don't do one-night stands.

Safe sex is wild, hot, horny, uninhibited, gritty, dirty sex. It's Sex with gay abandon. 
And unsafe sex? For me it's the Big Turn-Off. I just can't do sex and be constantly worrying "Is this the time.....?"

That's your preference and I respect that. 

For me, I don't care if your HIV+ or not......just roll on that condom and Fuck Me Hard! 
(And sorry, but I find the term "clean" kind of offensive. If we've gotta use anything, let's use HIV- please.)

I use the term "clean" because HIV isn't the only thing out there.

Trust me, my opinion is not without careful thought and consideration. So please respect that. 

[MrMazda]

@Takato:

Trust me, my opinion is not without careful thought and consideration. So please respect that. 

As long as you know what you're getting yourself into, you are always free to do as you please. My only one qualm with respect to the condom or bareback is that it is my personal advice that you make sure you take proper steps and know the facts, risks, etc. before stepping into territory that you may not necessarily want to be getting yourself into. From the sounds of it, your situation is much different than most gay men as well… let's face it... most gay men are sluts. :lolp: It's just the fact of the matter.

I just speak with a very strong opinion on the subject on account of having been lead down the wrong path by trusting the wrong person. One night was all it took, but in reality, it could have been passed down to me at anytime within just over a 6 month period. Just know what you're getting yourself into and be careful who you trust. There are people out there who will lie to you deliberately to try and infect you with things like HIV... I should know.