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    Sex!!! Condom or bareback?

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      rawr
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      @MrMazda:

      Yes… The shocking thing is about the rates is that since 2000 when the studies started getting done with the newer meds that have come out post 1998. The interesting thing with them is no matter what the regime was, if the person had an undetectable viral load, there has not been so much as ONE documented case since the studies began 14 years ago of HIV transmission from an HIV+ partner who is undetectable. This is why I say that you could reasonably conclude that it's "safe" for lack of a better term. Even the statistics with condom use do have some (albeit not many) cases where infection has occurred as the result of a condom failure. 🙂

      As far as I know and the databases I have access to, this is correct.

      Note: To be clear in my previous post, I'm talking about transmission reduction rates, not actual transmission rates, after I re-read it, it may not have been obvious. So transmission is reduced by 96% clinically (it's realistically zero and there are no documented cases, but doctors are unwilling to say 100% for a few reasons; such as human error during testing, patients not taking their medication, exposure to mutations, and a few other factors.)

      The HIV transmission rate being reduced by only 80% clinically when using condoms is shocking, I think this is due to regional issues. I'm sure in certain parts of the world they are "far less effective" simply because their users were not properly educated on how to use them. Including only developed countries with sex education programs, I'm sure it's much higher, but I can't find a statistic for that. There's also the risk of them just falling off, I really don't understand how somebody could break a latex condom when used properly. I'm sure there's a bigger chance with certain other materials, but again, in developed countries effectiveness and durability seem to be strong marketing points.

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        saivron
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        If I'm in a committed relationship and my partner has gotten tested, then bareback.
        Otherwise, condoms.  😉

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          regnomraw
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          @ziamond:

          Hey guyz

          What's your practice on gay sex? With or without? Is it important for u?

          My teenage years was in the 80's where most countries had informative social campaigns about AIDS and using condoms. So… I must say that I was brainwashed, since in 99% of my first encounters with guyz I used a condom. I let loose for a short period and i ended-up having gonorrhea in my bum. LOL. The occasions I had unprotected sex was when I was in a trusting relationship and we were tested. And yes.... I must say fucking/fucked without a condom is much more enjoyable.

          So it is important for me (at the point of refusing anal penetration but doing the rest (kissing, oral stuff) :)).

          I have a feeling that todays young people don't care much as I think promotion for STD prevention is not as it should be.

          Cheers

          I find bareback sex very hot and the idea turns me on - that there is no barrier between me and the guy who is fucking me. A few years ago, I would have bareback sex without hesitation but after I got STD tested and thankfully tested negative, I take nothing for granted now and am always safe. I think the reality of STDs and HIV doesn't really hit you until you get tested, then it's an anxious week where you really consider the consequences of your actions.

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            Masonmason
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            Porn bareback Sex safe until both are tested same with oral condom during oral can take away a lot of fun but it also much safer.

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              cumpigboy
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              In a perfect world, definitely bareback, period.  That said, I've not had any STDs yet, and would like to keep it that way, so I have a no sex before monogamy thing going on.  I don't really get off on the idea of just fucking to be fucking, I like that attachment to the person to give it that much more fire, otherwise I can just wank off and be done with it.  Not to say sluts and their breeders are bad, I love sluts and wish I could just take load after load of fresh cum in my oral and anal orifices cause it is so sexy looking.  I love to imagine being the one taking all that man juice into me and letting it ooze and drip out and then the givers wipe it off with their dicks or fingers and feed the strays right back into me.  I could go on and on about this fantasy. lol

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                masterjackha
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                bareback with your partner!

                you only use condom with those you are not in a relationship with or a stranger you just met.

                im have a partner now so it is always bareback 🙂 :cool2:

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                  jrsite55
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                  well bareback is much better, but it's importante to use condom….

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                    jay1
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                    condoms, just easier to clean up

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                      flashboy
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                      Can't keep it hard with rubber on, so if a guy really wants me to fuck him it will be without a condom. But if a guy wants to fuck me I prefer if he use a condom.

                      Great minds discuss ideas,
                      average minds discuss events,
                      small minds discuss other people…

                      Eleanor Roosevelt

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                        musclejizz 0
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                        I love having sex without protection but I'm paranoid about having mushrooms grow all over my "valuables". Unless I'm in a committed relationship with someone, we've both been tested, and we're both clean, CONDOM!!!!

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                          Nogard
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                          Always condom for anal sex  :anal: not for oral tho  :bj2:

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                            whoreduck
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                            Since Im in relationship last nine yrs, last five yrs we do only bb  :cheesy2: :cheesy2: :cheesy2:

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                              prcmr
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                              Only in Relationships (and checked) without the french letter!

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                                cureton
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                                safe sex ever. With men and women of course

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                                  MrMazda Global Moderator
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                                  @cureton:

                                  safe sex ever. With men and women of course

                                  Define "safe" sex… It's a very relative term sadly. 😞

                                  If you are HIV+ and are on the meds and maintain an undetectable viral load, there has not been so much as one case where transmission has actually occurred, even with unprotected sex. For this reason, it is said that bareback sex under these conditions is "safe". Also, there are a lot of different assumptions around the concept of oral sex. hehe

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                                    ratvik
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                                    Safe

                                    I'm too cute to be catching anything

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                                      tk327
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                                      @MrMazda:

                                      @cureton:

                                      safe sex ever. With men and women of course

                                      Define "safe" sex… It's a very relative term sadly. 😞

                                      If you are HIV+ and are on the meds and maintain an undetectable viral load, there has not been so much as one case where transmission has actually occurred, even with unprotected sex. For this reason, it is said that bareback sex under these conditions is "safe". Also, there are a lot of different assumptions around the concept of oral sex. hehe

                                      HIV pill does not make you immune to other STDs.

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                                        masanopat
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                                        with the one whom i love, trust and believe, it will always be bareback. that is because it is not just sex that we do, but we make love.

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                                          AndrewH
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                                          I prefer bareback, just if it safe.

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                                            MysteryFuck
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                                            @gzlong:

                                            Good, and LBC stands for?

                                            lol…. your banner? is it me? lmao

                                            anyway guys....
                                            for a virgin...which one is good for the first time?
                                            bareback or condom?

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