Sex!!! Condom or bareback?
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This is a sensitive issue because people feel strongly on either side of the the issue and for different reasons. Those of us who have contracted HIV, whether it be from careless behavior, blindly ignoring risks or having it forcibly subjected on us, have a unique perspective because of being on both sides of the fence. Just like abstinence isn't a realistic goal, neither is the expectation all people will use condoms all the time.
What is reasonable is to reinforce there are risks, not just HIV, encourage others to make educated risk assessments and then engage in risk-reducing strategies to protect yourself and others. All situations are not the same and each carry different risks and potential strategies. Perfect protection does not exist, but SAFER sex does.
@ Dvtroby1987 - yes, the REAL risk involved in contracting HIV is the viral load. Individuals who are taking HIV medications, when successful, suppress the viral load to being undetectable and protect against transmission in 96% of cases. It isn't 100%, but it sure is a significant risk reduction.
@myrea - HIV is no longer considered a death sentence by the medical establishment and is now a manageable chronic illness. Hopefully the laws in various countries will update to reflect it. Nonetheless, as you pointed out, it is costly treatment and changes your life in ways people never consider until AFTER having to face it in one way or another.
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@AndyZ:
@myrea - HIV is no longer considered a death sentence by the medical establishment and is now a manageable chronic illness. Hopefully the laws in various countries will update to reflect it. Nonetheless, as you pointed out, it is costly treatment and changes your life in ways people never consider until AFTER having to face it in one way or another.
It's only a chronic illness if you can afford the treatment, which might not work according to your specific infection let's be very clear about that, and for all I am concerned… the law I do hope it does not change, one is inflicting harm into another person willingly and should be punished for that.
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@AndyZ:
@myrea - HIV is no longer considered a death sentence by the medical establishment and is now a manageable chronic illness. Hopefully the laws in various countries will update to reflect it. Nonetheless, as you pointed out, it is costly treatment and changes your life in ways people never consider until AFTER having to face it in one way or another.
It's only a chronic illness if you can afford the treatment, which might not work according to your specific infection let's be very clear about that, and for all I am concerned… the law I do hope it does not change, one is inflicting harm into another person willingly and should be punished for that.
The same can be said regarding many medical conditions, but does not change the fact it is now a successfully treatable condition in the vast majority of cases.
HIV criminalization laws are inherently unfair and why many countries are repealing or modifying them. They make the faulty conclusion the average sexual encounter is safe and that both parties do not share responsibility when risk becomes reality. The attempt to legislate safe sex is preposterous.
Look at what they do in the medical world – they assume everyone is potentially contagious and use universal precautions as the standard on everyone when handling any bodily fluids. Anyone who contracts an illness from not using universal precautions is the one at fault. Why does the regular population think it would be any different for them with sexual bodily fluids? Wishful thinking I suppose. But someone who contracts a disease and doesn't use maximal protection is just as responsible when it comes right down to it.
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@AndyZ:
Look at what they do in the medical world – they assume everyone is potentially contagious and use universal precautions as the standard on everyone when handling any bodily fluids. Anyone who contracts an illness from not using universal precautions is the one at fault. Why does the regular population think it would be any different for them with sexual bodily fluids? Wishful thinking I suppose. But someone who contracts a disease and doesn't use maximal protection is just as responsible when it comes right down to it.
I agree with you on that both are responsible in a generalised situation, however one of them knows an information and is willingly endangering the other, while the other does not know it, dumb yes… however legally that is a basic defenition of crime, you could switch hiv with money and you get a scam or thief, and that is generalisation, you can't account for rapes or coerced sex that way, for people with mental problems and so on... so by that logic we do not punish liers, or people which willingly are set to harm others, we punish the dumb, which by contracting an infection were already punished...
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I do not understand why people act so nonchalantly when it comes to sex..
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as a monogamous couple….bareback
Kinda offtopic Q:
For the bb couples...
What do the bottom do when you guys are done???
Having all the /cough/ all shot up the butt...,
i always find myself having the need/urge to 'purge' it out
Without getting it all over the bedsheets
(body feels awkward with..... if i try to keep it in)Afterwars as a 100% bottom i go to the toilet or take on a pair of boxers if its late at night and let it drip :cheesy2:
Just wondering if i am the only one that does this?? ;\
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bareback for me, must of done it over 800 times with my partner even in his sleep ( he will dream of it while im doing it),watching tv, on the phone, reading etc i cant help it if we havent had it in a while he would say his ass is itchy due to that nerve at the entrance, needs some adjustment or rubbing , monogamous only
after each time, you have a shower try to urinate, anti bacterial soap, and i use cream around that area as soap causes irritation or dry skin.
and to those bottoms after your done with it, i shove a towel up it so it wont go on the sheets as he gets out of bed, my partners wont come out unless i wasn't far in so off to the toilet for him,
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i never had a sex..
(because till now i never get a boyfriend lol)
but as an amateur, i will choose with condom…
somehow i think, it's close to imposibble to make asshole perfectly cleaned -
I like bareback sex provided that you know the guy you are having sex with but if the guy is completely stranger to you definitely a condom will be advise during sex.
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I'm in a constant relationship, so we always do bareback :cheers:
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Well this topic has resurfaced.
Ok. I am married to my husband and we are different statuses. He's a HIV+ Bottom and I'm a HIV- Top.
Managing the protection is always an issue for us. Even though his viral load is undetectable, thanks to medication, that doesn't mean we can play around with risky play. We'd both rather that I didn't also have to take medications.
And for those of us who are in the 6% with larger and thicker cocks, it IS a problem to find condoms that are both think enough to enjoy the feeling, and actually fit without hurting me or making me go soft.
Best thing I can say, is as a top, go find yourself a comfortable condom, and make it work.
-K
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My BF loves to fuck me BAREBACK because he says it is more thrilling and has more feelings. As a result, I too like to feel his hot cock flesh inside me and moving in and out like a piston. With a condom wrapped around his dick, the warmth is not felt, just the thrill of the movement of his dick in and out of me. Therefore, I use a FLEET enema to clean up my lovehole so that BOTH of us truly enjoy the fucking and the love-making with lots of foreplay firstly.
IT IS SAFE TO BAREBACK WHEN BOTH HAVE TESTED HIV NEGATIVE TOGETHER IN THE SAME LAB AT THE SAME TIME. AND NO OTHER STDs TOO.
Hope this comment and advice helps.
Thank you for reading my opinion. -
My BF loves to fuck me BAREBACK because he says it is more thrilling and has more feelings. As a result, I too like to feel his hot cock flesh inside me and moving in and out like a piston. With a condom wrapped around his dick, the warmth is not felt, just the thrill of the movement of his dick in and out of me. Therefore, I use a FLEET enema to clean up my lovehole so that BOTH of us truly enjoy the fucking and the love-making with lots of foreplay firstly.
IT IS SAFE TO BAREBACK WHEN BOTH HAVE TESTED HIV NEGATIVE TOGETHER IN THE SAME LAB AT THE SAME TIME. AND NO OTHER STDs TOO.
Hope this comment and advice helps.
Thank you for reading my opinion.Well I'm glad you enjoy it and more power to you for taking the risks, but, it isn't accurate to say that "IT IS SAFE".
There is no such thing as absolutely "safe". There is "safer" and you may be engaged in one of the safer-sex as long as you and your partner remain 100% safe. Wait, didn't I say there is no such thing as 100% safe?
-K
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Connects to shower ~ Used for deep enemas!!!
didn't know that even existed! want one of those
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Always condoms. Unless we've been on a relationship and we're getting regularly tested. I mean, trust alone is not enough. I may trust you, but for all I know you've been cheating on me and not protecting yourself. Breaking my heart is enough of a price, thank you very much.
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I've just read through all these replies and found them very interesting..
I'm a bi-sexual who was married to a woman for 15 years (we divorced last year after a three year seperation), although our sex life was inactive after six - we only stayed together for our daughter (now 15). All the time, we used condoms, although my wife got pregnant because one split.
I've not had a steady gay relationship. I'm more bottom but anytime I've had sex, it's always been with a condom. When I've met people via websites, I've told them I have a rule and that when doing oral sex for the first time, condoms must be worn, by the two of us.
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For me, condoms for blow jobs are unnecessary. The science is sufficient to show your mouth to be chemically incompatable. So unless you've an open sore in your mouth, or bleeding gums, I'm not worrying about blow jobs.
But that is just me.
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always condoms :blownose:
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condom is mandatory, bareback only if i know my partner is tested…
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Most of my life was bareback
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