For first time, majority in US back gay marriage: poll

MrMazda

One day…. One day... Just remember, even Martin Luther King had a dream. (no pun intended)

viscous

It'll still be another 10 million years before gays get equality under the law.

I don't think it will be very, very long. A 2009 study of support for same-sex marriage by age and state (linked to below) was pretty revealing. It showed that, among those over age 65, Massachusetts had the highest percentage of same-sex marriage supporters – about 35% (Massachusetts is one of the most liberal states, for those not in the U.S.) Among those aged 18-29, support for same-sex marriage was greater than 35% in all states, and in most states it was greater than 50% among that age group. So time is on our side.

The link is below. Scroll down to the second chart, "Explicit support for same-sex marriage by state and age." You can click on it to get the chart viewable at a larger size.

hxxp://baselinescenario.com/2009/11/04/same-sex-marriage-and-time/

raphjd

We can't even get ENDA {Employment Non Discrimination Act} when most people agree that gays should have job protections. ENDA {has had 4 names since 1970) has gone up for a vote every year since 1970 and has never been able to get passed, despite the huge support for it to pass from the public.

42 US states and the federal government allow discrimination against gays in countless areas; ie jobs, housing, banking, insurance, ect, etc, etc, etc

At least 38 of the US states specifically have constitutional amendments banning equality for gays in marriage/civil unions.

With these facts, tell me why I should believe gays will ever see equality even in the most basic terms.

MrMazda

Again as I said… Even Martin Luther King had a dream. Just because there's all this opposition doesn't mean that things can't change. It only means that it will be that much longer before they do.

knoghoti

@raphjd:

We can't even get ENDA {Employment Non Discrimination Act} when most people agree that gays should have job protections. ENDA {has had 4 names since 1970) has gone up for a vote every year since 1970 and has never been able to get passed, despite the huge support for it to pass from the public.

42 US states and the federal government allow discrimination against gays in countless areas; ie jobs, housing, banking, insurance, ect, etc, etc, etc

At least 38 of the US states specifically have constitutional amendments banning equality for gays in marriage/civil unions.

With these facts, tell me why I should believe gays will ever see equality even in the most basic terms.

I think it'd be a very different world if our government representatives always voted the way their constituents really wanted them to; and in many cases, we might be worse off, but that said, I think they need to give feedback as to why they don't.

"We had to vote to abolish slavery because ultimately, if truth be told, you're just a bunch of lazy, cheap-ass fucks."
More eloquently put, so as to not get kicked out of office, of course. LOL

MrMazda

@knoghoti:

"We had to vote to abolish slavery because ultimately, if truth be told, you're just a bunch of lazy, cheap-ass fucks."
More eloquently put, so as to not get kicked out of office, of course. LOL

I cannot say that that statement accurately represents the entire population of people of African decent.

knoghoti

@MrMazda:

@knoghoti:

"We had to vote to abolish slavery because ultimately, if truth be told, you're just a bunch of lazy, cheap-ass fucks."
More eloquently put, so as to not get kicked out of office, of course. LOL

I cannot say that that statement accurately represents the entire population of people of African decent.

OMG, I wasn't thinking that as being directed towards people of African decent at all since they didn't have the right to vote in those days; I was directing that more towards the voting constituency: plantation/slave owners. My apologies if that's how that was interpreted.

MrMazda

My bad… I know there are a lot of racists around here that think that all people of African decent are sub-human. Now that I read your comment, I can see it in that context.

notquiteme

disaster averted whew!!! :hug:

underlvr

I've always wondered what the poll results would be if they included a choice like "don't really care". Another interesting poll question would be: "Would legalizing same gender marriage affect your personal life in any way?" If truth be told, I think that a large majority of Americans don't give a fuck about the issue.