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    Do Communities of Color Oppose Same-Sex Marriage?

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    • raphjdR Online
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      Within the EU, there are individual national laws on civil unions/partnerships, but there is no EU treaty or EU wide law on it.

      While in certain things there can be leeway between written policy and actual practice, in most others there can not be.

      If a country does not accept a civil union, then the couple can not immigrate to another country under such a visa.  They will need to find another type of visa or not move, separate or whatever.

      Before the UK had civil partnerships, partners were not guaranteed to be able to visit their partner in the hospital.  State hospitals {NHS} treated gay couples as not family, while private hospitals were much friendlier to gays.  In 2002, I was supposed to have sinus surgery in an NHS hospital and on the admission form they clearly said that all non family visitation was not allowed for short term in-patients.  Thankfully, my surgery was pushed to a private hospital due to scheduling conflicts at the NHS hospital, meaning that my partner could visit me the whole time.

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        Apollopaul
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        @raphjd:

        I'm tempted to keep a small card in my wallet identifying my boyfriend as having visiting rights, if ever.

        That will have ZERO effect if the law doesn't allow non family visitation.

        I just outright lie when it comes that, I always state I'm Family, and I have never been asked for ID to confirm that I am Family

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          @fancydude:

          Now, saying things CAN be done for treaty violations and what IS done are two very different things.  I heard complaints here all the time, living in the midwest, about the Auto industry, logging industry etc. what violations Canada was doing, undercutting us in prices, violating the treaty etc.

          :ot:
            I know I am most likely to get flagged for off Topic, BUT,

          Canada's violations of NAFTA, EXCUSE ME, but USA is the country that does whatever it wants, over the isssue of logging, the USA took Canada to World Court 8 times (on softwood lumber issue alone), and CANADA won each time, but that didn't matter, USA kept up their complaining and finally got an ally in Prime Minster Harper and we now pay USA on the issue of softwood lumber, even though CANADA was in the right every single time (not our fault our environmental laws are tougher than USA), and as a part of NAFTA neither one of our countries is suppose to subsidize farming, I see reports all the time though stating the USA is doing just that, while their CDN counterparts can only get bailouts if their crops are destroyed, and its amazing how certain things are 1 thing in CANADA, and something different in the USA.

          IN Canada we had MAD COW DISEASE, IN USA its was known as downer syndrome
          IN CANADA it was called SARS, in the USA it was known as severe pneumonia

          BTW your perceived undercutting in prices, is based on two major factors: 1) CDN dollar is usually worth less than the USD (has been changing drastically recently) 2) that CDNS pay for a basic healthcare system thru our tax dollars, hence the corporations don't have to spend an arm and a leg on providing health benefits. THE USA is the only country out of the 35 most industrialized countries in the world where the individual citizens have to get private insurance for healthcare or pay for it out of pocket. (if you doubt me watch SICKO a documentary by Michael Moore about American healthcare

          In Ontario, Canada if you break your leg, you go to the hospital, they take x-rays, put a cast on your leg, and they will set you up with crutches. Now if your your wondering what you are going to pay for this hospital visit, well let's see. u r responsible for getting to the hospital whether it was taxi, ambulance, or transit, and you have pay for the crutches. (ambulance ride $50.00, crutches $50.00)

          IN USA, uhm, yeah, a broken leg is what like $6,000

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            YES, you did very off topic.

            IN Canada we had MAD COW DISEASE, IN USA its was known as downer syndrome
            IN CANADA it was called SARS, in the USA it was known as severe pneumonia

            Down Syndrome in the US is not related to mad cow disease and never has been.  The US also had SARS.

            Down Syndrome and "mad cow" have some similar symptoms, maybe that's what you are thinking.

            Google "sars in the us" and the first 3 links will be to the US's Center of Disease Control or CDC and it talks about SARS.

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              Apollopaul  - I said that I HEAR about such things.  While it is fine for you to point out the other side, I was illustrating my point with an example, not writing a thesis about NAFTA violations.  You are correct, the USA is the guilty party far more than Canada in that relationship, but you dont' have to be so hostile.  What I said did not need to be rebutted, since it was just an example about a much broader issue…..thanks

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                @fancydude:

                Apollopaul  - I said that I HEAR about such things.  While it is fine for you to point out the other side, I was illustrating my point with an example, not writing a thesis about NAFTA violations.  You are correct, the USA is the guilty party far more than Canada in that relationship, but you dont' have to be so hostile.  What I said did not need to be rebutted, since it was just an example about a much broader issue…..thanks

                Don't mind him… He's just a little unmedicated... Or rather, hasn't been medicated enough. Not sure which 😛

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                  @MrMazda:

                  @fancydude:

                  Apollopaul  - I said that I HEAR about such things.  While it is fine for you to point out the other side, I was illustrating my point with an example, not writing a thesis about NAFTA violations.  You are correct, the USA is the guilty party far more than Canada in that relationship, but you dont' have to be so hostile.  What I said did not need to be rebutted, since it was just an example about a much broader issue…..thanks

                  Don't mind him… He's just a little unmedicated... Or rather, hasn't been medicated enough. Not sure which 😛

                  it has nothing to do with medication, smart guy, but a lack of a certain something, speaking of which I would really love to receive :bj2:

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                    fancydude
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                    Hey there AP - anytime you're crossing into Michigan, let me know, and I'll see I can help the wind blow in a more favorable erection, oops I mean direction…....

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                      @fancydude:

                      Hey there AP - anytime you're crossing into Michigan, let me know, and I'll see I can help the wind blow in a more favorable erection, oops I mean direction…....

                      Thanks FancyDUDE, Sorry for snapping earlier in the topic.  😊(my bad).

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                        No problem ApolloPaul - it is a tense time - as they say in economic issues, when America catches a cold, Canada gets the flu.  Well, America has the flu, it must be really tough over there.  Thanks for being man enough to apologize.

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                          kind of funny how it all ends up, isn't it?

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