Are collection rules enforced?
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@justatest90-0 it is wild that your example of a bad collection has a well defined theme, includes thumbnails, video titles and the performers are all named.
that presentation alone is worth a 5 star in my opinion, i would not report because the user is given all information they need to decide what files to download, if any.
i get your point, that it does not follow the rules in the most strict sense, but the site is considerably understaffed and there are so many worse torrent presentations, i imagine that as a mod when you see a report that has this much information and a proper theme, they probably ask why it was even reported.
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@ianfontinell-0 said in Are collection rules enforced?:
@justatest90-0 it is wild that your example of a bad collection has a well defined theme, includes thumbnails, video titles and the performers are all named.
No they're not? The description reads, in totality, "say uncle collection". The rule says, "The description must contain a list of all video files or titles including, by at least copy/paste the torrent’s file list. Please list video files and titles available through other existing torrents with links to their descriptions."
The video titles and performers are not named. It also doesn't specify the degree of completeness (is this "random, here's the list" or complete for a specific window of time?).
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@ianfontinell-0 Here's an example of it being done right for Say Uncle, and so you can actually find, ex, Felix O'Dair: https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=13438257d7caa35b28b94c8f64249ccaff77031d53903e50. It's also clear it's just some random favorites (listed). Do I wish it had thumbs? Sure, of course. They're so easy to generate. But that's not a rule and it doesn't break core site functionality when not included.
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The ever-perceptive @ianfontinell makes a great point that the site is understaffed, and sometimes smaller "infractions" to the rules can't always be addressed. The concept of a "common theme" is a matter of interpretation. While a collection that has "All of Dick Bigcock's videos" is clear, a collection entitled "My favorite gay porn" is not keeping with the rules.
There's also the rule about listing all of the files in the torrent. This is problematical given that there are lots of fan site uploads whose holding dozens of files with nonsense names like "q03495uehgj.jpg"--and conveying a list of such isn't very informative to a prospective downloader. The rule is also perhaps a bit redundant, because I find that mousing over the "number of files" entry will pop up a window showing all the file names.
It might be worth considering having a "best practices" list that aren't official rules, but that make torrent pages more useful to the prospective downloader. Examples might be:
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If there are many video files in a torrent, including a thumbnail page for each one as a .jpg is very helpful. This is not difficult to do using tools like "AutoMovieThumbnailer", where I can point the app to a folder of videos and it generates thumbnail sheets for each one.
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Including a sample video clip (1-2 minutes) of a video so the downloader can judge the quality of the video. There are some older/vintage videos that are much less than HD quality, and members might not want to download 1 GB if the file is not up to their quality standards. I use "Movavi Video Converter" to do this...and this app has a lot of other capabilities as well.
Perhaps a good but ill-defined standard would be the old Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." When posting a torrent, include as much information as you would like to see in a torrent that you download.
End of sermon. I apologise for the length of my post. I work in a field where something called a "brief" can be hundreds of pages long.
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Further to what has already been said, you can see all the files included in the torrent simply by clicking on "See full list" next to the Num Files entry on the torrent listing, negating any real benefit to replicating it all in the description. While this does include everything, including any pics or other files, it is normally enough to quickly see if anything there peaks your interest.
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@eobox91103 said in Are collection rules enforced?:
The rule is also perhaps a bit redundant, because I find that mousing over the "number of files" entry will pop up a window showing all the file names.
That list is not searchable. That's why they need to be in the description. The reason they need to be in the description is so that anyone can find them without browsing and viewing the file list of hundreds of thousands of torrents. Plus, you can't even get to those older torrents without searching, anyway. For OF or JFF collections, the description should have the name of the models in the collection. It'd be nice if the file names had that, too - a lot of people name the file what the model uploaded it as. But if not, then caps can let you find the file once you're at the collection.
But without models / names in the description, they can't be found. It's about search, folks, not about what's on the front page.
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@eobox91103 said in Are collection rules enforced?:
lots of fan site uploads whose holding dozens of files with nonsense names like "q03495uehgj.jpg"
Here's an example of a fan site upload done following the rules: https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=113d7a303cb95b8d28b94c8f64249ccaa44c1665bc720041
I highlight it because I found it when looking for a model, their video here isn't in other collections, and would have never found/known about it if OP hadn't, you know, followed the rules. They exist for a good reason.
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Another thank you to a good post: https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=e186e67eca96337728b94c8f64249cca3c1050aae4dd88c8
Or even more fantastic: https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=098e459602cc826628b94c8f64249cca6da860676cf340f0
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Short answer to the question is YES... They ARE enforced. Much of the enforcement however relies on user reports when content falls short of the criteria.
So when you come across ones that don't meet the requirements, I would encourage you to hit the report button so that we can take action.
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@MrMazda said in Are collection rules enforced?:
Short answer to the question is YES... They ARE enforced. Much of the enforcement however relies on user reports when content falls short of the criteria.
So when you come across ones that don't meet the requirements, I would encourage you to hit the report button so that we can take action.
I do, that's part of why I asked. From this morning:
https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=f0052afb3a0b641c28b94c8f64249ccaa8c28f2d4a897376 - no files listed, no completeness information
https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=7b39ee70dc69d5b828b94c8f64249cca9f7edf4872952184 - no files listed (or realistically, models - bizarrely in the photos, not the description)
https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=621c273504cc2e1d28b94c8f64249ccad40fe36051cc2fc3 - no files listed, no completeness info
https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=5f2622d12027d51d28b94c8f64249cca534cf8c93be8bded - no completeness info
https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=5fcfe943bbf97c8628b94c8f64249cca26a8ede9abc8fc3b - no files listed (a lot of model names included), no completeness info
etc etc. I did about 15 collection reports and none were acted upon, which makes me feel like I'm reading the rules wrong or something. Other reports (ex: users asking for content in the comments) were removed.
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@justatest90-0 I don't know who handled them, but these definitely qualify for some follow up, which I will do.
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Thanks, I'll keep reporting then. I try to report quoting the rules to make it easy, maybe a refresher for everyone. I was wondering if it depended on who saw the report.
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@justatest90-0 Sadly, I think a lot of it has to do with who sees the report, and whether or not they have the energy to go down a rabbit hole. I'm always up for that challenge.
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@MrMazda said in Are collection rules enforced?:
@justatest90-0 ...and whether or not they have the energy to go down a rabbit hole. I'm always up for that challenge.
Any hole's a goal, eh?
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