Are yall gay men who support trump
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@PedrocaWest But you libs openly lie.
So much for "stronger laws against it"
"US is the biggest war machine" - ok better. What I say. Now you sound like me. Thank you!!
And that means......... NATO & USA out of Ukraine, right?
(No, because in 2025, you libs love war & death)
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@blablarg18 Can you confirm Layla Jane is dead?
I can't find any information about her passing.
Also, as I said in other topic: The rest of the world only allow trans teens to have hormone replacement and any surgical body modification after 16 and 18, specifically.The whole case is wrong, the doctor should and could not perform mastectomy at someone that is 13yo and she is totally right for sueing them.
This is why puberty blockers exist, they give time for someone that is confused to mature enough to be really sure if they are trans or not.
And in the video the guy clearly don't know what the hell the recording guy is talking about, he just thinks is a random lgbtphobe saying shit. And is treating him accordingly.
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@blablarg18 Actually we see NATO as just an extention of the US military and that Ukraine only started that useless war because of a coup funded by US itself.
Also most of the world hate Russia too, we don't think Putin and Trump are so different, if there is any difference is that Putin is just smarter. -
@PedrocaWest said in Are yall gay men who support trump:
The rest of the world only allow trans teens to have hormone replacement and any surgical body modification after 16 and 18, specifically
Means:
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USA policy is wrong
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To argue against USA policy is right
again, thank you !!!!!!!
you just endorsed what I do
As to Ukraine: Again, what I say. Again thank you.
But most libs are more like this:
(Ukraine being full of Banderites, look up Stepan Bandera - ie. Nazi)
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@blablarg18 As I said, if we actually talked instead of giving speeches we would see most of the rage you feel about politics is not a right wing thing, is more a general feeling.
And we hate Zelensky and the nazis too, he started it all, the nazis are nazis, we don't need to say more.
The only good thing I have to say about Zelensky is that he looks good shirtless.
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@PedrocaWest ......says guy who gives giant speeches.
If you want things to be certain way: Set your example.
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@blablarg18 said in Are yall gay men who support trump:
@PedrocaWest said in Are yall gay men who support trump:
The rest of the world only allow trans teens to have hormone replacement and any surgical body modification after 16 and 18, specifically
Means:
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USA policy is wrong
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To argue against USA policy is right
again, thank you !!!!!!!
you just endorsed what I doUsually the right answer is "US is wrong. Period."
Your elections can be resumed in Wrong vs. Wronger.
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"Layla Jane is a biological female who sought mental health treatment at age 12 for various emotional and behavioral issues. Various Kaiser doctors, rather than give Layla Jane the care she needed, seized on her confusion about her gender and placed her on the âgender affirming careâ pipeline with a series of damaging transgender treatments, including off-label puberty and cross-sex hormones. Layla Janeâs doctors removed her breasts when she was just 13 years old."
https://www.dhillonlaw.com/lawsuits/layla-jane-v-kaiser-hospital-foundation-inc/
& then Manchester-Pride douche not only mocks family loss, but, fully informed of family loss, attacks family to their face as "you stupid twat, you stupid piece of shit, why would you care?"
& then @PedrocaWest excuses douche as fair if he's uninformed of family loss - except excuse fails, because right on video, douche was too informed.
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@blablarg18 I've already said in the other topic, if you are talking about trans people:
Proihibiting genital surgeries in underage people, specially intersex infants, this is a big thing both trans and intersex movement advocate and no one never hears them. On the contrary, they accuse them of it
Giving psycological and psychiatric support for gender questioning kids/teens and their parents. Both for them understand everything better, as for them to not mistook feminine boys and tomboys for trans kids and for parent give actual support for their queer kids.
Allowing kids and teens to "live the phase" if this is a phase, allowing them to go through social transition (different clothers, hairstyles and pronous/names, just it) so they can have sure if they are really trans and if it feels right.
Stop criminalizing parents, teachers and doctor who support trans people.
Puberty blockers to gender-questioning pre-teens, so they can mature enough to know better at 16yo or 18yo. This avoids unnecessary or aggresive surgeries and cosmetic procedures. Layla Jane herself would not have undergone a mastectomy if she had been given puberty blockers, as this would have put her breast growth on hold until she was certain whether or not she was trans.
It would even end the "omg, there's a trans woman in women sports" panic, there would be no supposed advantage if the male puberty never occurred.
Also, stronger and neutral studies to proven the real advantages (or not) of trans women in sports, because when people debate they think trans women keep the strength that they had when they were cis men, and thats already something proven wrong in more than a centary of studies with hormonal treatment in cisgender and intersex people. Lia Thomas, that you created a topic just some hours ago, became a big thing when they said she was winning everything, but she losed way more times than she won and had a very unstable record after transition, so people would really be aeare if she had any real advantage in certain swim categories or if it was just a fuss led by prejudice or ignorance.
Aside from all of this, better ways to support adults that realize later that they are trans, Caitlyn Jenner is a anti-trans transgender woman and she realizes she only started transition after 65yo, a lot of people only realize or are free enough to do the transition after they passed their 30s and reached life stability.
Also, the possibility to keep their reproduction rights, because not all trans people have gender dysphoria with their genitals, and some places require them to be neutered to allow full legal transition.
And, of course, stoping the "trans panic laws" that allow people in some US states to kill trans people if they claim that they feel threatened by them.
People usually enter this debate pratically saying "trans people are the devil" or "pronouns will destroy the language" instead of hear them. It's way easier to support, pay attention and give care to avoid mistakes than fighting and criminalizing an entire group. It is only happening because it's not cool anymore hating gays, so they passed to the next letter of our alphabet mafia. And they will keep going to the next letters even if they ended with transness.
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Just to clarify: Layla Jane, & guy's gender-troubled niece who died, are 2 people.
I never said they were same. Both appear to be victims of genderqueer.
But I could have confused details of which traumas happened to precisely which victims. Apologies for any confusion on that level.
Layla Jane lives!
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@PedrocaWest the "trans panic laws" that allow people in some US states to kill trans people if they claim that they feel threatened by them.
Fiction.No such law has been proposed or passed in USA.
Lib "Department of Imaginary Concerns"
If you mean some criminal cases had "trans panic defense" to them - ok - but give specifics. also note, ever-increasing bans on it
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@blablarg18 Oh, ok, I thought she passed away.
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@blablarg18 Oops, I worded that wrong. What I meant is that in a lot of U.S. states, people can still use whatâs called the âtrans panicâ defense in court.
Basically, someone commits violence (often murder), and then says, âI freaked out when I found out they were transâ â and uses that emotional reaction to try to get a lighter sentence, like manslaughter instead of murder. Itâs a legal loophole that can make violent acts seem more âunderstandableâ to a jury.
Thatâs why some states have passed laws to ban that defense entirely. Because itâs been used in real cases. Successfully.
But in most states? Itâs still allowed. You can literally argue in court that someone being trans âprovokedâ you into killing them.
So yeah, not fiction. Not imaginary. Just a messed-up part of the system thatâs yet to get fixed.
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@blablarg18 and you agree with me that they should ban "trans panic defense" in all states?
VocĂȘ Ă© TUGA ou HUE BR?
Do you wanna talk?
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its a fad thing.... fashionable to be contrarian and oh so special loving trump when clearly he is a fools choice. They are all shit. Both sides. The system is fucked until theres a third or more party. Trump was never the actual answer to the problems but a symptom of what a terrible system puked out in one red hat wearing gasbag.
America is fucked till we get more parties.
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@PedrocaWest Yet again, you agree with what I said. Thanks!
@cp2000 Congratulations, you just advocated for America First / MAGA.
Republican-Democrat "Uniparty" is stupid & fucked.... I agree, have said it across thousands of posts.
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@PedrocaWest said in Are yall gay men who support trump:
@blablarg18 and you agree with me that they should ban "trans panic defense" in all states?
Are you saying that trans people should be allowed to lie to their sex partners about what is between their legs?
To me, that's a form of rape.
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We could establish fascist panic defense, an individual was seized by an uncontrolled fit of rage upon discovering that his lover was a pro-Trump transphobic. To me fuck with a closeted trumpist it's a form of rap.
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How pathetic.
Your bullshit example isn't the same as a straight guy having sex with a person he though was a woman, only to have the "woman's" dick fall out of her panties. Likewise, for a gay guy to think he's having sex with a man, only for her to say "eat my pussy" or a lesbian to think she's having sex with another woman, only for him to say "ride my cock".
I know, that's too complicated a concept for liberals to understand.
It's funny how under Obama it became acceptable for women to be able to claim rape for sex they later regretted for whatever reason, but people like you can't understand the concept of rape by omission or deceit.
BTW, real trans people agree that they should be honest with their sex partners. Not surprisingly, only the Queers say it's acceptable to lie about it. Then again, Queers are easy to spot.
Next, you'll claim that sex with little kids is ok, because you hate Trump.
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@raphjd I didn't said it, but you understood it. So your way to read this is the problem, not what I said.
Someone who formerly already knew the person was trans and dated them to do a hate crime could just claim he didn't knew in bad faith, just to avoid a heavier sentence, it was already used in trials lots of times and that why it was banned in a lot of places, the same thing that occurred with "gay panic" defence acts.Sometimes trans people don't have "whats was between their legs" anymore, so the agressor panicked based on a ghost in his head or because they thought it would make them less of a men if they fucked a pussy from someone that was not a woman since birth.
It's not rape to the law, except if the person actually rapes the other one, it can be judged at the most as a sexual fraud and it would be a loooong trial to prove the intention of fraud.
And this becomes way more fucked up if you remember that people says they can always spot who is trans and who's not. So it's a weak or shameless defence strategy.
People forget that even when they are with another person naked in a room they can always say 'I don't wanna do this anymore" and leave. If the other still want it the other person is a jerk and it would become a rape. And it is valid to all cases, not only trans related ones.
You saying it this way make you look like you agree they should beat or murder someone because they panicked. Is that what you think?
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