Are yall gay men who support trump

blablarg18

Also victimhood - as anyone can post what they want here

You libs "usually" don't post here - just because you're weak-minded.

Libs usually have only fake news. Tons of hoaxes. Can't take scrutiny. Imaginary "concerns". Need safe space, debate-free zones.

There are exceptions. But too few.

I'm into Free Speech, Peace, & meritocracy or race-neutrality. I remember when libs used to be. We had a lot to agree on. Or to debate, whatever. It was fun.

2025 libs tho, love censorship & to jail Maga, love war, & love Woke-racism or anti-merit...... .....Pathetic.

& even that, is when yall libs are on your "good day", not just being druggies & pedos.

PedrocaWest

@stdspd11

Actually, I’ve noticed two or three users here who are clearly right-wing gays. They mostly interact with each other, and they tend to be way more active than the left-wing ones. Probably because most left-wing queer folks are already exhausted from arguing elsewhere and just don’t have the energy to keep debating on a porn site. And because here they are not punished for saying shit like they will be in any social network with moderation bots and investors to keep things neutral and profitable.

Globally, most queer people lean left politically. That’s because, outside of authoritarian regimes, left-wing parties and countries tend to be more supportive of LGBT rights. Also, most of the world strongly dislikes Trump, just as we’ve disliked all former US presidents, because, geopolitically, the U.S. acts like a global bully. But Trump stands out as especially dangerous. And no, people don’t think that because “liberal media told them.” It’s because we have eyes, and we have healthier societies to compare.

One thing the site admin pointed out, and he is absolutely right: even the biggest “left-wing” party in the U.S. is still deeply racist, sexist, and queerphobic by global standards. That’s because American politics is so skewed to the right that their so-called "left" would be considered just right-wing anywhere else.

Sure, sometimes someone with genuine good intentions pops up among the Democrats, but those people rarely make it to the top. The system simply doesn’t allow it. Politicians who care “too much” about people threaten the system itself. The last truly leftist presidential candidate was Bernie Sanders, and at this point, it’s doubtful he’ll live long enough to run again.

So people like those three right-wing users never even hear about the genuinely good folks in politics. And when they look at figures who are supposed to be the “good guys”, like Biden, they feel disappointed. Then they end up siding with people who at least are being honest about their bad intentions. “We’re going to destroy your life,” they say, and somehow, that sounds more trustworthy. At least they don’t feel betrayed when the leopards eat their faces after they voted fot the "leopards eating faces" party.

I usually just ignore those users unless they start slipping into conspiracy territory or post outright misinformation, especially when it targets the very existence of trans people. Not because I expect to change their minds, but because if no one pushes back, people who are still figuring things out might start believing the propaganda. And that’s how bigotry spreads: when it's the only voice in the room.

The thing with Trump supporters is that they already live inside their own echo chamber. That alone wouldn’t be so bad if Americans as a whole weren’t already trapped in a much larger echo chamber that keeps them disconnected from the rest of the world. The MAGA version is just a way more radical, more distorted version of that bubble, and it’s not worth the emotional labor to try to pop it.

I’m a foreigner, and honestly, we’re seeing the same thing happen outside the US now. Trumpism is being exported, sometimes word-for-word, with no cultural context or adaptation to countries where some of the rethoric doesn't even makes sense. His supporters are actively building Trump-style movements in other countries, creating local copycat politicians and parties and with no exception is always catastrophic to the country.

This isn’t the place for a deep political discussion, you know why. A better way to push back is simply to post left-wing news and memes, just like they do with their propaganda. Or just do nothing. Let the leopards eat their faces like they will already do. The leopards don't spare someone just because they support them. Why waste your energy arguing?

blablarg18

@PedrocaWest Because Free Speech, Peace & race-neutral merit, are "right wing" in Lib World 2025?

Mask off!

Thanks for proving my point

"here they are not punished" - means YOU need censorship. Debate-free zone for your hoaxes, imaginary concerns.

Mask off again!

Thanks for prove my point again

blablarg18

THIS asshole - Manchester NH @Pride - typical lib in 2025

vid - https://x.com/i/status/1940225174353453551

Someone's 13-year gender-butchered niece, literally died. Niece. 13. Breasts cut off. Then Died.
butthole says "Why do you care about that? You're hateful because you care. You will die with no friends. Hahhahaa you stupid twat, you stupid piece of shit"

What libs turned into

PedrocaWest

@blablarg18 "Free speech, peace, and race-neutrality"? That’s cute.

What it means to you?

As I said, I'm a foreigner. I don't live in US and, as the rest of the world, I know the rest of the world better than the average american.

Most of the countries have stronger laws to keep the free speech and the respect, so people can't openly lie, spread hate speech or misinformation, nor offend people like is allowed in America. Protests are free speech? Different clothes are expression freedom? Apparently not in US.

Peace and US in the same sentence sound like a joke to the rest of the world, because US is the biggest war machine in the planet and funded coups and wars all over the world. So remembering it and how americans worships guns, and talk about “civil war” every election cycle and call it "peace" is just ironic.

Race-neutrality is a new term to me, is something like colorblind casting, that puts people of any race in certain roles according to merit, or is a cuter way to pretend racism is not a thing?

Calling that out isn’t a “mask off” moment. It’s just not letting people hide behind nice-sounding buzzwords that hide harmful actions.

As I said, is an echo chamber. It doesn't worth what I say, you believe I think in a certain way and you automatically see me as an enemy. You don't want to have a conversation, you want to give a speech, even if it's to an empty room.

blablarg18

@PedrocaWest But you libs openly lie.

So much for "stronger laws against it"

"US is the biggest war machine" - ok better. What I say. Now you sound like me. Thank you!!

And that means......... NATO & USA out of Ukraine, right?

(No, because in 2025, you libs love war & death)

PedrocaWest

@blablarg18 Can you confirm Layla Jane is dead?
I can't find any information about her passing.
Also, as I said in other topic: The rest of the world only allow trans teens to have hormone replacement and any surgical body modification after 16 and 18, specifically.

The whole case is wrong, the doctor should and could not perform mastectomy at someone that is 13yo and she is totally right for sueing them.

This is why puberty blockers exist, they give time for someone that is confused to mature enough to be really sure if they are trans or not.

And in the video the guy clearly don't know what the hell the recording guy is talking about, he just thinks is a random lgbtphobe saying shit. And is treating him accordingly.

PedrocaWest

@blablarg18 Actually we see NATO as just an extention of the US military and that Ukraine only started that useless war because of a coup funded by US itself.
Also most of the world hate Russia too, we don't think Putin and Trump are so different, if there is any difference is that Putin is just smarter.

blablarg18

@PedrocaWest said in Are yall gay men who support trump:

The rest of the world only allow trans teens to have hormone replacement and any surgical body modification after 16 and 18, specifically

Means:

USA policy is wrong
To argue against USA policy is right

again, thank you !!!!!!! you just endorsed what I do

As to Ukraine: Again, what I say. Again thank you.

But most libs are more like this:

(Ukraine being full of Banderites, look up Stepan Bandera - ie. Nazi)

PedrocaWest

@blablarg18 As I said, if we actually talked instead of giving speeches we would see most of the rage you feel about politics is not a right wing thing, is more a general feeling.

And we hate Zelensky and the nazis too, he started it all, the nazis are nazis, we don't need to say more.

The only good thing I have to say about Zelensky is that he looks good shirtless.
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blablarg18

@PedrocaWest ......says guy who gives giant speeches.

If you want things to be certain way: Set your example.

PedrocaWest

@blablarg18 said in Are yall gay men who support trump:

@PedrocaWest said in Are yall gay men who support trump:

The rest of the world only allow trans teens to have hormone replacement and any surgical body modification after 16 and 18, specifically

Means:

USA policy is wrong

To argue against USA policy is right

again, thank you !!!!!!! you just endorsed what I do

Usually the right answer is "US is wrong. Period."

Your elections can be resumed in Wrong vs. Wronger.

blablarg18

"Layla Jane is a biological female who sought mental health treatment at age 12 for various emotional and behavioral issues. Various Kaiser doctors, rather than give Layla Jane the care she needed, seized on her confusion about her gender and placed her on the “gender affirming care” pipeline with a series of damaging transgender treatments, including off-label puberty and cross-sex hormones. Layla Jane’s doctors removed her breasts when she was just 13 years old."

https://www.dhillonlaw.com/lawsuits/layla-jane-v-kaiser-hospital-foundation-inc/

& then Manchester-Pride douche not only mocks family loss, but, fully informed of family loss, attacks family to their face as "you stupid twat, you stupid piece of shit, why would you care?"

& then @PedrocaWest excuses douche as fair if he's uninformed of family loss - except excuse fails, because right on video, douche was too informed.

PedrocaWest

@blablarg18 I've already said in the other topic, if you are talking about trans people:

Proihibiting genital surgeries in underage people, specially intersex infants, this is a big thing both trans and intersex movement advocate and no one never hears them. On the contrary, they accuse them of it

Giving psycological and psychiatric support for gender questioning kids/teens and their parents. Both for them understand everything better, as for them to not mistook feminine boys and tomboys for trans kids and for parent give actual support for their queer kids.

Allowing kids and teens to "live the phase" if this is a phase, allowing them to go through social transition (different clothers, hairstyles and pronous/names, just it) so they can have sure if they are really trans and if it feels right.

Stop criminalizing parents, teachers and doctor who support trans people.

Puberty blockers to gender-questioning pre-teens, so they can mature enough to know better at 16yo or 18yo. This avoids unnecessary or aggresive surgeries and cosmetic procedures. Layla Jane herself would not have undergone a mastectomy if she had been given puberty blockers, as this would have put her breast growth on hold until she was certain whether or not she was trans.

It would even end the "omg, there's a trans woman in women sports" panic, there would be no supposed advantage if the male puberty never occurred.

Also, stronger and neutral studies to proven the real advantages (or not) of trans women in sports, because when people debate they think trans women keep the strength that they had when they were cis men, and thats already something proven wrong in more than a centary of studies with hormonal treatment in cisgender and intersex people. Lia Thomas, that you created a topic just some hours ago, became a big thing when they said she was winning everything, but she losed way more times than she won and had a very unstable record after transition, so people would really be aeare if she had any real advantage in certain swim categories or if it was just a fuss led by prejudice or ignorance.

Aside from all of this, better ways to support adults that realize later that they are trans, Caitlyn Jenner is a anti-trans transgender woman and she realizes she only started transition after 65yo, a lot of people only realize or are free enough to do the transition after they passed their 30s and reached life stability.

Also, the possibility to keep their reproduction rights, because not all trans people have gender dysphoria with their genitals, and some places require them to be neutered to allow full legal transition.

And, of course, stoping the "trans panic laws" that allow people in some US states to kill trans people if they claim that they feel threatened by them.

People usually enter this debate pratically saying "trans people are the devil" or "pronouns will destroy the language" instead of hear them. It's way easier to support, pay attention and give care to avoid mistakes than fighting and criminalizing an entire group. It is only happening because it's not cool anymore hating gays, so they passed to the next letter of our alphabet mafia. And they will keep going to the next letters even if they ended with transness.

blablarg18

Just to clarify: Layla Jane, & guy's gender-troubled niece who died, are 2 people.

I never said they were same. Both appear to be victims of genderqueer.

But I could have confused details of which traumas happened to precisely which victims. Apologies for any confusion on that level.

Layla Jane lives!

https://nypost.com/2023/06/17/woman-sues-hospital-for-removing-her-breasts-when-she-was-13-years-old/

blablarg18

@PedrocaWest the "trans panic laws" that allow people in some US states to kill trans people if they claim that they feel threatened by them.

Fiction.

No such law has been proposed or passed in USA.

Lib "Department of Imaginary Concerns"

If you mean some criminal cases had "trans panic defense" to them - ok - but give specifics. also note, ever-increasing bans on it

PedrocaWest

@blablarg18 Oh, ok, I thought she passed away.
Who was the other person?

PedrocaWest

@blablarg18 Oops, I worded that wrong. What I meant is that in a lot of U.S. states, people can still use what’s called the “trans panic” defense in court.

Basically, someone commits violence (often murder), and then says, “I freaked out when I found out they were trans” — and uses that emotional reaction to try to get a lighter sentence, like manslaughter instead of murder. It’s a legal loophole that can make violent acts seem more “understandable” to a jury.

That’s why some states have passed laws to ban that defense entirely. Because it’s been used in real cases. Successfully.

But in most states? It’s still allowed. You can literally argue in court that someone being trans “provoked” you into killing them.

So yeah, not fiction. Not imaginary. Just a messed-up part of the system that’s yet to get fixed.

PedrocaWest

@blablarg18 and you agree with me that they should ban "trans panic defense" in all states?

cp2000

its a fad thing.... fashionable to be contrarian and oh so special loving trump when clearly he is a fools choice. They are all shit. Both sides. The system is fucked until theres a third or more party. Trump was never the actual answer to the problems but a symptom of what a terrible system puked out in one red hat wearing gasbag.

America is fucked till we get more parties.