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@john32123666 Thanks for the response, but I think you might have misunderstood my question.
I'm curious about how much people get paid for gay porn, and if there's an overall difference between tops and bottoms.
For example, I'd like to know what a relatively new performer might earn for a scene against a studio's star performers. I'm thinking of people like Kyle Ross (RIP) who was a Helix exclusive model and became synonymous with the brand.
Then you have guys like Daniel Hausser, Austin Avery, Dakota Lovell.... They spread themselves around various studios and are obviously in demand, but is this down to low pay and the need to shoot as many scenes as they can?
Also, is there a difference in pay-scales between top, bottom and vers guys? Do performers earn more for fucking or being fucked, or is it entirely down to there looks and fanbase? I would imagine that they would be able to expect more for doing certain things like fisting. Would you expect to be paid the same for a 1 on 1 scene as you would for letting 10 tops take turns on you? And if so, what sort of numbers are we talking about?
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@frostycab said in Pay for gay?:
but I think you might have misunderstood my question.
I'm curious about how much people get paid for gay porn, and if there's an overall difference between tops and bottoms.Those are already included like a package deal to perform w/ : [as a roleplay]
newbie or active ...who wants to refuse a good offer from a studio ...
[except performer who desires top or bottom or maybe oral sex only] ...However Gay Industries has more to offer than str8 or vice versa ...
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@frostycab As far as I'm aware, gay porn pays more than straight porn, and in the gay porn world, the top generally gets paid more. I remember reading about this in several places recently.
One of these places was a news article about Armand Rizzo protesting BlacksOnBoys for this very reason. They offered to pay him more, but out of principle, he still turned them down.
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@MrMazda I suppose that makes some sense. Tops are under pressure to "perform" whereas bottoms are always ready.
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@frostycab said in Pay for gay?:
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Well that's pretty gay... And not the good kind! haha!
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Like any other business it all comes market demands and there are many factors involved like how experient the actor is, how big the studio is, what kind of action will be featured in the scene (for cases where the actor is paid on a per-scene base, as opposed to long-term contracts), and of course there's the demand for specific actors, like the example given above about Armond Rizzo. He's a bottom, but having him in a scene brings in so many subscribers that they'd be willing to not only pay more than what they usually pay to their bottoms, but also more than they pay to their tops.
If it's a smaller company they obviously will pay less as they tend to work with newer actors or, additionally, have a close enough relationship with actors that they're willing to be paid what they know the studio can afford.
There's also the demand for specific positions, and this is mostly directly linked to the public perception of each actor. If you're strictly top and have an established career, studios will offer you more money to have you bottom for them. The opposite, on the other hand, is not as usual, so bottoms don't get many offers to debute as tops.
Altough tops are offered good money to bottom ONCE, most are reluctant because this has a big impact in the public perception. Bottoming once is enough to plummet viewer's demand for them, specially as tops (who would have thought the gays are so machist?), and force them to become permanently versatile, which would impact the offers they get. Because of that they only do it if when the money is really really good.
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@MrMazda said in Pay for gay?:
One of these places was a news article about Armand Rizzo protesting BlacksOnBoys
https://instinctmagazine.com/bottoms-earn-less-money-than-tops/
@frostycab said in Pay for gay?:
overall difference between tops and bottoms.
https://www.thegayuk.com/whos-paid-more-in-gay-adult-films-the-tops-or-bottoms/
https://www.queerty.com/guess-how-much-gay-porn-stars-make-20150424
https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a30740897/gay-porn-performers-wage-per-scene/ -
Thanks guys. Some interesting reading there.
I always expected there to be a sizeable difference in pay with mainstream studios when compared to something like Raunchy Bastards, who seem to use newbie models and usually have them only do 1 scene. You wouldn't expect top-notch pay for that, but working regularly for an established studio with exclusive models, high production standards and a huge fanbase you'd obviously expect a bit more.
I hadn't heard about the Armond Rizzo thing before, but it's good to see that there are people in the industry who are willing to take a stand.
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