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      raphjd Forum Administrator @eobox91103
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      @eobox91103

      Which fallacy is it where someone simply says "no it isn't" and runs off?

      And YES, I'm a troll because I'm not a liberal. I'm used to that.

      @bi4smooth

      Anything that deviates from the swamp, you claim is hyperbolic or a CT.

      I didn't attack him for a different opinion, but for his useless claim that I'm wrong without expanding on why. Also his attack on Count Dankula without any evidence to back it up.

      You claim I'm posting click bait, but you refuse to even look it up.

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        eobox91103 @raphjd
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        @raphjd said in Scotland officially bans free speech:

        @bi4smooth
        I didn't attack him for a different opinion, but for his useless claim ...

        Thank you for admitting that you attack people, rather than address issues. That is the essence of the (useless and pitiful) ad hominem style that has no place in thoughtful discourse. It makes the Politics and Debate section almost useless.

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          Japons
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          Gross Scotland

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            Yes, the new law could easily be used to restrict speech, it includes the new offence of "stirring up hatred," which is an incredibly broad and undefined term to use.

            The Scottish Police Federation said the bill would result in officers "policing what people think or feel"

            The only Nazis I'm aware of in Scotland are the members of the SNP, luckily I'm not in Scotland or saying this would probably count as a hate crime under the new bill.

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              raphjd Forum Administrator @eobox91103
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              @eobox91103

              What do you call this;

              Lol, no they don't. Alarmist, whiny BS.

              Is that an attack or is that just being a good liberal?

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                eobox91103 @raphjd
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                @raphjd said in Scotland officially bans free speech:

                @eobox91103

                What do you call this;

                Lol, no they don't. Alarmist, whiny BS.

                Is that an attack or is that just being a good liberal?

                It probably counts as an attack. Unfortunately, nobody has a monopoly on name-calling and insulting other posters in the forum, although I've noticed a couple of people who seem to be competing for that title.

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                  @eobox91103

                  You probably don't realize it, but it makes you look like a hypocrite when you attack me for something, while blatantly ignoring the same thing from someone to who I was replying.

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                    eobox91103 @raphjd
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                    @raphjd said in Scotland officially bans free speech:

                    @eobox91103

                    You probably don't realize it, but it makes you look like a hypocrite when you attack me for something, while blatantly ignoring the same thing from someone to who I was replying.

                    I made no such attack. My whole point is that attacking others is inappropriate for useful discussion. I try not to use the word "you" in a reply unless it's clearly complimentary.

                    I once heard a proverb that, "If you throw a stone into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that you hit." It is good to think on that...but as staunch dog lover, I'm a bit uncomfortable with the proverb.

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                        raphjd Forum Administrator @80sboy
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                        @80sboy

                        Look up Nick Griffin going on BBC's Question Time. His free speech ended his political career, and for good reason.

                        Liberals think hate speech does not apply to the groups they hate, such as CIS white people, especially CIS white men. We saw this with NYT defending Sarah Jeong.

                        Liberals allow people to make homophobic comments and then lie about it, as long as they hate Trump. We saw this with Joy Reid.

                        There's a never-ending list of liberals approving of hate speech because it's hateful toward the people they hate.

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                          @80sboy hitler was a socialist. he used socialism to justify his antisemitism. that's how he managed to get rabble rousers that helped him get popular.

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                              di3di3di3 @raphjd
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                              @raphjd democracy succumbs to islamism

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                                raphjd Forum Administrator @80sboy
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                                @80sboy

                                I live in Scotland and I can tell you that the new hate speech law isn't liked, outside of certain groups.

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                                  this guy is hilarious.
                                  "muh libtards"
                                  certainly didn't expect this kind of garbage discussion on a gay torrent forum but whatever.

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                                    Nikejock
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                                    We'll see what happens now that SNP + Greens = IndyRef2 majority in Holyrood, especially with a Green presiding officer and an SNP Deputy PO. I fear a UK High Court battle will happen next year...

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                                      raphjd Forum Administrator @StephenMD
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                                      @stephenmd said in Scotland officially bans free speech:

                                      this guy is hilarious.
                                      "muh libtards"
                                      certainly didn't expect this kind of garbage discussion on a gay torrent forum but whatever.

                                      Are you saying this site should be a liberal echo chamber?

                                      If you hate free speech so much, does that mean I can ban for liberal speech and you'd be supportive? Of course, not. As we've seen elsewhere, then speech rules apply to liberals, they freak out.

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                                        raphjd Forum Administrator @Nikejock
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                                        @nikejock said in Scotland officially bans free speech:

                                        We'll see what happens now that SNP + Greens = IndyRef2 majority in Holyrood, especially with a Green presiding officer and an SNP Deputy PO. I fear a UK High Court battle will happen next year...

                                        The opposition parties have the majority by 1 seat.

                                        I would not doubt if the LibDems will sell their souls, once again, for a bit of power and join the SNP and Greens.

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                                          Nikejock @raphjd
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                                          @raphjd Incorrect. SNP have 64. Greens have 8. That's a majority. Greens support independence. If Greens didn't. Then yes, LibDems + Labour + Tories + Greens = 65 seats. But Greens support independence. 64 + 8 = 72. All IndyRef2 needs is a simple majority of 65. Sturgeon has that with SNP + Green votes.

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                                            raphjd Forum Administrator @Nikejock
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                                            @nikejock

                                            OOPS.

                                            You are correct. 👍 👍 👍

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