Occused of illegal downloading from gaytorrent by flavaworks
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As far as I know you cant get in any trouble if you downlosd anything .Uploading is the main issue here.
That's not true. Some of the major Hollywood studios have gone after downloaders. The only thing that helps the downloaders is the difficulty in determining the real identities of them.
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As far as I know you cant get in any trouble if you downlosd anything .Uploading is the main issue here.
This is why it's important to understand how torrents work. in addition to basic copyright shit. That's the most important thing if you're gonna be a pirate. While every country is different, copyright laws and jurisdictions aren't necessarily static either! It takes one person who feels over confident and cocky, to be the one to wind up messaging everyone on his pirate boards "what do I do?" "I got a notice!"
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How have instructed you to send them said money? I ask because I suspect this is most likely a scam. Even if by some absurd chance it is legitimately from that studio, it's a desperate "last move"….a scare tactic for an empty threat. It's not financially beneficial for them to legally pursue just one person (in another country, no less) who downloaded one video of theirs years ago (assuming you haven't been the primary seeder of said video all these years). Besides, how would they even have your email address?! Anything of a genuinely official legal nature would almost certainly be delivered to a physical address and require a signature to verify it was received.
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Scam sounds likely to me:
A torrent server can't identify your email address; all it can do is show the IP address of people who are seeding/leeching torrents. With that IP address, someone could conceivably localize it to a specific internet provider (assuming you're not using a VPN). The provider could reveal your email address to someone making a complaint, but I doubt that they'd do so.
I once got an email from my ISP saying that they had been notified by a large studio that I was downloading copyrighted material, and my ISP recommended that I stop that torrent. (It was from another torrent site, not gt.ru.) I nuked the torrent (keeping the downloaded file) and that was the end of it.
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Scam sounds likely to me:
A torrent server can't identify your email address; all it can do is show the IP address of people who are seeding/leeching torrents. With that IP address, someone could conceivably localize it to a specific internet provider (assuming you're not using a VPN). The provider could reveal your email address to someone making a complaint, but I doubt that they'd do so.
I once got an email from my ISP saying that they had been notified by a large studio that I was downloading copyrighted material, and my ISP recommended that I stop that torrent. (It was from another torrent site, not gt.ru.) I nuked the torrent (keeping the downloaded file) and that was the end of it.
You guys and your bad information. All it takes is a subpoena!! This is very serious stuff, you guys really need to start reading more.. This lax attitude is not good.
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You guys and your bad information. All it takes is a subpoena!! This is very serious stuff, you guys really need to start reading more.. This lax attitude is not good.
Subpoenas are very serious, agreed, but ONLY within the jurisdiction of the court issuing it. Outside of said jurisdiction (and in this case, the Netherlands is definitely outside of any U.S. jurisdiction), they hold absolutely no weight at all. Put simply, serving an international subpoena is not a thing. Now, there are processes by which you can request the information you seek, but that’s a whole other complicated discussion that, frankly, I have no business discussing.
Regardless, a subpoena in a situation like this wouldn’t be served to the accused party (because the plaintiff doesn’t actually know who that person is outside of their IP address). The subpoena would be served to the ISP of the accused party seeking to reveal that information. If said information is learned then, yes, letters demanding financial compensation to make some impending legal action go away are typically sent, but no legal action holds any weight without jurisdiction.
To the original OP: I am not a lawyer nor do I have all the facts and documents pertaining to your situation in front of me. As such, I am not offering any advice….I am merely offering my opinion. And that opinion is that there is something fishy about this email you received….certain things don’t add up. But, most importantly, even if the email was legitimately sent by Flavaworks, no U.S. court has jurisdiction where you live and it simply would not be financially beneficial for a small porn studio to go through all the trouble and expense to actually sue you in U.S. courts (even if they could do so).
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Something is fishy here.
This thread is about Flavaworks complaining about people downloading their movies.
I think they are actually just complaining.. to create PUBLICITY for themselves!
Has anybody intentionally downloaded anything produced by Flavaworks and KEPT it?
There is not one movie, not one model they work with.. who is worthy of ever dropping their pants! -
Agreed, Flavaworks is shit.
Not worthy of anyone's bandwidth.
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You guys and your bad information. All it takes is a subpoena!! This is very serious stuff, you guys really need to start reading more.. This lax attitude is not good.
Subpoenas are very serious, agreed, but ONLY within the jurisdiction of the court issuing it. Outside of said jurisdiction (and in this case, the Netherlands is definitely outside of any U.S. jurisdiction), they hold absolutely no weight at all. Put simply, serving an international subpoena is not a thing. Now, there are processes by which you can request the information you seek, but that’s a whole other complicated discussion that, frankly, I have no business discussing.
Regardless, a subpoena in a situation like this wouldn’t be served to the accused party (because the plaintiff doesn’t actually know who that person is outside of their IP address). The subpoena would be served to the ISP of the accused party seeking to reveal that information. If said information is learned then, yes, letters demanding financial compensation to make some impending legal action go away are typically sent, but no legal action holds any weight without jurisdiction.
To the original OP: I am not a lawyer nor do I have all the facts and documents pertaining to your situation in front of me. As such, I am not offering any advice….I am merely offering my opinion. And that opinion is that there is something fishy about this email you received….certain things don’t add up. But, most importantly, even if the email was legitimately sent by Flavaworks, no U.S. court has jurisdiction where you live and it simply would not be financially beneficial for a small porn studio to go through all the trouble and expense to actually sue you in U.S. courts (even if they could do so).
That's changing tho. While yes, it's true, jurisdiction is a strong factor, however two things should be considered. #1 Not every seedbox or VPN will have Netherlands available. #2 More and more countries are working together internationally in regards to copyright law. Not necessarily changing the copyright law of each country, but helping in other ways to crack down. Even if a copyright holder doesn't take you to court, they can hurt you in other ways, such as the "3 strikes (sometimes 6) you're out" rule for most American ISPs. That is huge, because cable have a monopoly here on cable. If a cable company bans you, you're in deep shit, 'cause chances are, there is no other competitor set up for your area. You'll wind up downloading from your local library. That's something serious people need to consider. Not having your own internet, is the equivalent of not having a phone. It's impossible to live like that these days. You need to guard your internet the same way your apartment these days. If you lose it your fucked!! And don't think about using mobile, because their "unlimited data," is NOT unlimited.
Keeping yourself safe should be everyone priority. A private tracker does not guarantee safety. You got to be a pro at this shit. I'm not saying people should be paranoid, I'm just saying people need to pay attention more. Even with USENET, the law was able to find and prosecute a user, for doing dumb shit. Pay attention ya'll.
-AOS
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The site/staff do as much as we can to protect your privacy, but everyone needs to do their part as well.
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Ignore it. For the love of God do not pay or deal with such copyright trolls.
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Ignore it. For the love of God do not pay or deal with such copyright trolls.
I have a secret for you.. the people filing DMCA complaints are rarely the copyright holders.
Instead, they are websites that illegally SELL content that they do NOT OWN. The key word being SELL.Here is an example of what I mean…
If there was a pay per view event.. I could legally invite people over to my house to watch it for FREE.
However, if I charged people $25 to come to my house to watch that pay per view event.. THEN that would be a crime!These websites often acquire ALL the private shows from sites such as Chaturbate.. and CHARGE $$$ to view them.. but pay NOTHING to the performer! It's not that big of a deal though.. because the amount of money people pay to watch recorded private shows is negligible. almost nothing. People are only willing to pay for LIVE shows as they are happening. Selling recorded private shows is like trying to sell the used underpants of an old man.
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Under Canadian law, we have established a president on the matter. An IP address alone from a pool of peers is not sufficient information to be able to lay any sort of charge or claim, or otherwise get any sort of court order for customer information for one simple reason… While an IP address may identify the subscriber to the internet service, this does not absolutely mean that the subscriber of the internet service was the end-user of the device that performed the infringing actions. Such is often the case with a shared WiFi network, or in homes with multiple family members. You will only have one registered subscriber, however there can be any number of people whom could have been using the service.
My best advice would be to refer to a lawyer to see about the applicable laws and options available for your country.
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A US judge recently ruled than an IP address alone is not enough for a studio to sue someone for infringement. Your ISP (Comcast, At&T) would have sent you a letter via MAIL notifying you that a claim against the account owner has been filed. Also, since you are not in America, don't worry about it. Next time, use a VPN or somebody else's WiFi.
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That's changing tho. While yes, it's true, jurisdiction is a strong factor, however two things should be considered. #1 Not every seedbox or VPN will have Netherlands available. #2 More and more countries are working together internationally in regards to copyright law. Not necessarily changing the copyright law of each country, but helping in other ways to crack down. Even if a copyright holder doesn't take you to court, they can hurt you in other ways, such as the "3 strikes (sometimes 6) you're out" rule for most American ISPs. That is huge, because cable have a monopoly here on cable. If a cable company bans you, you're in deep shit, 'cause chances are, there is no other competitor set up for your area. You'll wind up downloading from your local library. That's something serious people need to consider. Not having your own internet, is the equivalent of not having a phone. It's impossible to live like that these days. You need to guard your internet the same way your apartment these days. If you lose it your fucked!! And don't think about using mobile, because their "unlimited data," is NOT unlimited.
Keeping yourself safe should be everyone priority. A private tracker does not guarantee safety. You got to be a pro at this shit. I'm not saying people should be paranoid, I'm just saying people need to pay attention more. Even with USENET, the law was able to find and prosecute a user, for doing dumb shit. Pay attention ya'll.
-AOS
fair enough.
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