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    Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

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    • royalcrown89R Offline
      royalcrown89
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      Notice in this thread I have not called those who oppose me derogatory names. I've called the president's words disgusting because they are disgusting, but I have not personally called those who support his opinion on these five innocent men disgusting. I'm not calling those who support him on this issue disgusting because there could be a million reasons why you support him on this; however, you need to define those reasons instead of deflecting to other things wholly unrelated to this topic. So far, this thread has been largely civil but please refrain from making flaming personal statements such as calling me "butt hurt" and also refrain from major deflections. It is clear what this thread is about and if you cannot make an argument for what our president stands for then you are not here to have an open and honest discussion. I still want more civil discussions like this one but we can't get there unless we all take it seriously and call out bad actors on here when we see them.

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        pppucci
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        We are fighting a loosing battle. People who talk like this in an online forum are venting in a way that would be socially unacceptable in real life. They get ot off their chest by doing it here. I think we need to pick our battles in this regard.

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        • raphjdR Offline
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          RoyalCrown89

          Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.

          Read the bit I bolded.

          Now go back and read my previous comment again.

          Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.

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            pppucci
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            @raphjd:

            RoyalCrown89

            Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.

            Read the bit I bolded.

            Now go back and read my previous comment again.

            Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.

            Although criminals who confess are rarely executed unless they have very bad lawyers.  Case in point is the Bucks County man who confessed to four murders this week as long as the death penalty was taken off the table.  Only blatant disregard for the criminal justice system can explain advocating for the death penalty for those whose convictions have been vacated by the court.

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            • raphjdR Offline
              raphjd Forum Administrator
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              Not the argument I made.

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                pppucci
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                @raphjd:

                You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

                There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

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                  mhorndisk
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                  @royalcrown89:

                  The President of the United States still believes the Central Park Five–-5 exonerated men who spent years in prison for a crime they did not commit as teenagers---deserve to be executed and has continuously called their wrongful conviction settlement a "disgrace." This is disgusting and indefensible. There is a new documentary film being made about this situation and it will focus on the president's continuing fight against these five innocent men. The current Attorney General backs up this disgusting opinion by our president. How can anyone support the condemnation of innocent men who were wrongfully convicted for a crime they had absolutely nothing to do with? #45's supporters want us to view him as an honorable man and someone deserving of the presidency, yet he supports the idea that five innocent men should be executed or imprisoned for life for something they did not do. Further, he calls their wrongful conviction settlement a "disgrace." They were wrongfully convicted and lost years of their lives because of a wrongful conviction. Forensic evidence has exonerated them. Why does our president and his Attorney General believe otherwise and will they do something to harm the lives of these five innocent men?

                  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york
                  http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/06/politics/reality-check-donald-trump-central-park-5/index.html
                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/21/donald-trump-central-park-5_n_5517784.html
                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/08/donald-trumps-doubling-down-on-the-central-park-five-reflects-a-bigger-problem/
                  http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/donald-trump-central-park-settlement-disgrace-article-1.1838467
                  http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/sen-sessions-praises-donald-trump-central-park-5-controversy-article-1.2756902
                  http://uproxx.com/news/donald-trump-central-park-five/

                  GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.
                   Over the top language; "shut the fuck up".

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                    mhorndisk
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                    I'm really inclined to send your fraudulent statement to a lawyer for review. You're sick.

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                    • raphjdR Offline
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                      @pppucci:

                      @raphjd:

                      You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

                      There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

                      Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?

                      I see another case of liberals hating free speech.

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                        Devken
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                        @mhorndisk:

                        GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                        My, my, my…. maybe you should follow the advice you gave me when you sent me that private message... and move to China if you hate freedom of speech so much.

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                          pppucci
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                          @raphjd:

                          @pppucci:

                          @raphjd:

                          You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

                          There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

                          Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?

                          I see another case of liberals hating free speech.

                          Trump is free to say anything he likes.  I am too. I m also entitled to my feelings.Liberals do not hate free speech.  Criticizing something is not equivalent to banning it.

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                            pppucci
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                            @mhorndisk:

                            GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                            IF I HAD A GREEN DOT THAT SAID "WARNED" UNDER MY USERNAME I WOULD WATCH MY LANGUAGE.

                            Sue him for what? Criticizing the President?  We do not live in Russia.
                            Sue him for "lying"? If that were allowed, you and the President would never be out of court.
                            Recheck the connection between your brains and your fingers..  If you can only contribute by calling the posters liars, hen resist the temptation and move onto the next topic.

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                              sutieday
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                              Trump has such a disdain for minorities. He just used them as a prop to not appear racist. For example, he and his AG are still pushing the drug war and stringent minimum sentences of marijuana…

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                                sutieday
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                                @mhorndisk:

                                GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                                So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…

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                                • royalcrown89R Offline
                                  royalcrown89
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                                  @sutieday:

                                  @mhorndisk:

                                  GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                                  So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…

                                  I reported him to the moderator. Something needs to be done because that response was totally uncalled for.

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                                  • royalcrown89R Offline
                                    royalcrown89
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                                    @raphjd:

                                    RoyalCrown89

                                    Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.

                                    Read the bit I bolded.

                                    Now go back and read my previous comment again.

                                    Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.

                                    He still to this day wants them dead, knowing now that they have been exonerated. Once again, where is the evidence showing him walking back his recent (2015-2016) statements? He wants innocent men dead; and once again, that's indefensible.

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                                      sutieday
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                                      @royalcrown89:

                                      @sutieday:

                                      @mhorndisk:

                                      GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                                      So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…

                                      I reported him to the moderator. Something needs to be done because that response was totally uncalled for.

                                      Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.

                                      @raphjd:

                                      @pppucci:

                                      @raphjd:

                                      You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

                                      There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

                                      Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?

                                      I see another case of liberals hating free speech.

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                                      • royalcrown89R Offline
                                        royalcrown89
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                                        @sutieday:

                                        @royalcrown89:

                                        @sutieday:

                                        @mhorndisk:

                                        GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                                        So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…

                                        I reported him to the moderator. Something needs to be done because that response was totally uncalled for.

                                        Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.

                                        @raphjd:

                                        @pppucci:

                                        @raphjd:

                                        You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

                                        There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

                                        Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?

                                        I see another case of liberals hating free speech.

                                        I noticed that but I'll wait to see if any action is taken before I appeal to someone else. I said nothing to Mhorndisk for him to say that to me. Clearly, a warning is not enough at this point.

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                                          pppucci
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                                          What I find reprehensible is mhorndisk's defense of free speech while threatening to sue over criticism of the president. He really should move to some nice cozy  authoritarian regime like Russia or Turkey.  He will be much happier there, as long as he stays closeted.

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                                            sutieday
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                                            @pppucci:

                                            What I find reprehensible is mhorndisk's defense of free speech while threatening to sue over criticism of the president. He really should move to some nice cozy  authoritarian regime like Russia or Turkey.  He will be much happier there, as long as he stays closeted.

                                            Funny, I thought the right was against frivolous litigation…

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