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    Our President called for the deaths of five innocent black teens

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      pppucci
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      We are fighting a loosing battle. People who talk like this in an online forum are venting in a way that would be socially unacceptable in real life. They get ot off their chest by doing it here. I think we need to pick our battles in this regard.

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        raphjd Forum Administrator
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        RoyalCrown89

        Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.

        Read the bit I bolded.

        Now go back and read my previous comment again.

        Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.

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          pppucci
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          @raphjd:

          RoyalCrown89

          Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.

          Read the bit I bolded.

          Now go back and read my previous comment again.

          Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.

          Although criminals who confess are rarely executed unless they have very bad lawyers.  Case in point is the Bucks County man who confessed to four murders this week as long as the death penalty was taken off the table.  Only blatant disregard for the criminal justice system can explain advocating for the death penalty for those whose convictions have been vacated by the court.

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            raphjd Forum Administrator
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            Not the argument I made.

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              pppucci
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              @raphjd:

              You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

              There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

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                @royalcrown89:

                The President of the United States still believes the Central Park Five–-5 exonerated men who spent years in prison for a crime they did not commit as teenagers---deserve to be executed and has continuously called their wrongful conviction settlement a "disgrace." This is disgusting and indefensible. There is a new documentary film being made about this situation and it will focus on the president's continuing fight against these five innocent men. The current Attorney General backs up this disgusting opinion by our president. How can anyone support the condemnation of innocent men who were wrongfully convicted for a crime they had absolutely nothing to do with? #45's supporters want us to view him as an honorable man and someone deserving of the presidency, yet he supports the idea that five innocent men should be executed or imprisoned for life for something they did not do. Further, he calls their wrongful conviction settlement a "disgrace." They were wrongfully convicted and lost years of their lives because of a wrongful conviction. Forensic evidence has exonerated them. Why does our president and his Attorney General believe otherwise and will they do something to harm the lives of these five innocent men?

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york
                http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/06/politics/reality-check-donald-trump-central-park-5/index.html
                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/21/donald-trump-central-park-5_n_5517784.html
                https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/08/donald-trumps-doubling-down-on-the-central-park-five-reflects-a-bigger-problem/
                http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/donald-trump-central-park-settlement-disgrace-article-1.1838467
                http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/sen-sessions-praises-donald-trump-central-park-5-controversy-article-1.2756902
                http://uproxx.com/news/donald-trump-central-park-five/

                GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.
                 Over the top language; "shut the fuck up".

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                  mhorndisk
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                  I'm really inclined to send your fraudulent statement to a lawyer for review. You're sick.

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                    raphjd Forum Administrator
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                    @pppucci:

                    @raphjd:

                    You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

                    There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

                    Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?

                    I see another case of liberals hating free speech.

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                      Devken
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                      @mhorndisk:

                      GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                      My, my, my…. maybe you should follow the advice you gave me when you sent me that private message... and move to China if you hate freedom of speech so much.

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                        pppucci
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                        @raphjd:

                        @pppucci:

                        @raphjd:

                        You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

                        There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

                        Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?

                        I see another case of liberals hating free speech.

                        Trump is free to say anything he likes.  I am too. I m also entitled to my feelings.Liberals do not hate free speech.  Criticizing something is not equivalent to banning it.

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                          pppucci
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                          @mhorndisk:

                          GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                          IF I HAD A GREEN DOT THAT SAID "WARNED" UNDER MY USERNAME I WOULD WATCH MY LANGUAGE.

                          Sue him for what? Criticizing the President?  We do not live in Russia.
                          Sue him for "lying"? If that were allowed, you and the President would never be out of court.
                          Recheck the connection between your brains and your fingers..  If you can only contribute by calling the posters liars, hen resist the temptation and move onto the next topic.

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                            sutieday
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                            Trump has such a disdain for minorities. He just used them as a prop to not appear racist. For example, he and his AG are still pushing the drug war and stringent minimum sentences of marijuana…

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                              sutieday
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                              @mhorndisk:

                              GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                              So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…

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                                royalcrown89
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                                @sutieday:

                                @mhorndisk:

                                GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                                So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…

                                I reported him to the moderator. Something needs to be done because that response was totally uncalled for.

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                                  royalcrown89
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                                  @raphjd:

                                  RoyalCrown89

                                  Well, at least my point was proven; the president is indefensible and no one has defended him for wanting five innocent men executed before and after they were exonerated.

                                  Read the bit I bolded.

                                  Now go back and read my previous comment again.

                                  Wanting self confessed criminals to be punished is normal, for normal people.

                                  He still to this day wants them dead, knowing now that they have been exonerated. Once again, where is the evidence showing him walking back his recent (2015-2016) statements? He wants innocent men dead; and once again, that's indefensible.

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                                    sutieday
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                                    @royalcrown89:

                                    @sutieday:

                                    @mhorndisk:

                                    GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                                    So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…

                                    I reported him to the moderator. Something needs to be done because that response was totally uncalled for.

                                    Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.

                                    @raphjd:

                                    @pppucci:

                                    @raphjd:

                                    You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

                                    There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

                                    Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?

                                    I see another case of liberals hating free speech.

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                                      royalcrown89
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                                      @sutieday:

                                      @royalcrown89:

                                      @sutieday:

                                      @mhorndisk:

                                      GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                                      So sad this is still the standard of decorum on this board…

                                      I reported him to the moderator. Something needs to be done because that response was totally uncalled for.

                                      Apparently our mod has no problems with the post as he posted directly after it.

                                      @raphjd:

                                      @pppucci:

                                      @raphjd:

                                      You're butt hurt because Trump thought they should be executed before they were exonerated, after they confessed?

                                      There was no death penalty in New York when Trump argued for it.  That's enough for me to get "butt hurt."

                                      Oh, so a private citizen can't call for a state to get/use death penalty?

                                      I see another case of liberals hating free speech.

                                      I noticed that but I'll wait to see if any action is taken before I appeal to someone else. I said nothing to Mhorndisk for him to say that to me. Clearly, a warning is not enough at this point.

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                                        pppucci
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                                        What I find reprehensible is mhorndisk's defense of free speech while threatening to sue over criticism of the president. He really should move to some nice cozy  authoritarian regime like Russia or Turkey.  He will be much happier there, as long as he stays closeted.

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                                          sutieday
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                                          @pppucci:

                                          What I find reprehensible is mhorndisk's defense of free speech while threatening to sue over criticism of the president. He really should move to some nice cozy  authoritarian regime like Russia or Turkey.  He will be much happier there, as long as he stays closeted.

                                          Funny, I thought the right was against frivolous litigation…

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                                            pppucci
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                                            @mhorndisk:

                                            GOD DAMN. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I SHOULD TOTALLY SUE YOU FOR YOUR FRAUDULENT STATEMENT HERE.

                                            I said earlier in this thread that we needed to pick our battles.  This might be one worth fighting, as well as the statements that follow.

                                            I do not claim to be familiar with the software that runs the Forum, so Raph, correct me if I am wrong.  I have noticed a large number of Guests viewing this board.  I would imagine that means they would have to visit before logging in or purposefully log out of the site before coming to the forum.  Not only do they want to lurk, but they want to do so anonymously.  Have they been intimidated from posting and even showing their face?

                                            Also, after reviewing old posts here, it became clear that there were a lot more active participants until recently . Some of that may be attributed to pre-election and immediate post-election fervor, which clearly has died down, but I wonder if we are doing everything we can to promote participation by a broad spectrum of members.
                                            As a case in point, last night at about 1 AM there was me and 22 guests viewing the board.

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