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      pppucci
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      I never said those who wanted a white male president were racist, but looking to return to a more socially secure past.
      They do not hate blacks or women, but simply want to return to a social structure that seems more stable.

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        @aadam101:

        Hillary Rodham Clinton is not the President of the United States.  She never will be.  She is not a threat to you any longer.  You don't have to be afraid of her anymore.  That is all.

        :true: Bringing her up in an argument to justify the current president's actions severely weakens the argument. How can someone justify a president's actions by asking, "But what about the candidate who lost during the election that has now been over for 8 months?" It's ridiculous and is not a valid argument at this point. Super PAC does not equal presidential power and influence. In my opinion, we have a corrupt president and his name is not Hillary Clinton.

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          pppucci
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          This says it all…

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            raphjd Forum Administrator
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            Forget about Obama being black.  I don't have a problem with black.  However, it is inconceivable to me that a man with the name Barack Hussein Obama (aka Barry Soetoro) who was raised in Indonesia as a muslim until the age of 13 could ever become president.

            I was just pointing out that liberals played the race card to guilt people into voting for Obama.

            They did the same thing with the sex card for Hillary.

            We can't vote for the best candidate, we have to vote based on their oppression status.   According to liberals, that is.

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              What you say may be true, but the converse is also true.  How many people did not vote for Obama because he was black?  How many people chose to "otherize" him and claim he was not a citizen because he was black?  How many could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary, no matter how moderate they were or how much they hated Trump simply because she was a woman?  The voting for the best candidate argument runs both ways.

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                I couldn't vote for Hillary due to her femi-stasi bullshit.

                It's the same reason I didn't vote for Obama the 2nd time.  Well, that and all the lies he told.

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                  pppucci
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                  I never meant to cast aspersions at you.

                  Of the people who voted for Obama because he was black, not all did so to promote "black power," but to see a barrier come down.  Similarly, the ones who voted for Hillary because she was a woman,  were not all staunch feminists, but  wanted to make history.

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                    That's still voting for their "oppression" status, not their ability.

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                      pppucci
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                      @raphjd:

                      That's still voting for their "oppression" status, not their ability.

                      Unfortunately most voters are shallow.  They vote on looks, sound bites, geographical region and other characteristics that have nothing to do with ability.
                      In fact a poll done in June 2016 showed that 18% of Trump supporters did not feel he was qualified to be president.

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                        If there was a poll about how qualified Hillary's vagina (not Hillary the person) is, I'm sure liberals would have polled at nearly 100%.

                        Same with Obama's blackness.

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                          pppucci
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                          Trump's calling card was his lack of qualifications.  He was supposed to drain the swamp and bring a refreshing air of honesty and openness to the presidency.  Look where that has gotten us in just six months.
                          You imply that rave and gender were the only qualifications help by Obama and Hillary. Even if the argument was made, I doubt anyone on the left successfully bullied anyone into voting for Obama under the treat of being called a racist. Similarly,  Similarly, I highly doubt anyone voted for Hillary for fear of being called out by the feminists.

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                            You have no clue.

                            Liberals constantly screamed that anyone who didn't vote for Obama only did so because he's black; aka YOU'RE A FUCKING RACIST.

                            Didn't like Hillary meant you hate women.

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                              It's interesting because I actually LIKE Nancy Pelosi. I just think she's a good person… I'm glad she's the leader of the democrats, because I believe she has a good soul. I just like her...

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                                pppucci
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                                @raphjd:

                                You have no clue.

                                Liberals constantly screamed that anyone who didn't vote for Obama only did so because he's black; aka YOU'RE A FUCKING RACIST.

                                Didn't like Hillary meant you hate women.

                                I may not have a clue, but you only hear what you want.  Maybe Google was not indexing articles well in 2008, but I can't even find a conservative rag that makes your accusation. In fact, a lot more was written about Blacks voting for him simply because he was black. If there were people who refused to vote for him because he was black, liberals would be the last people on earth they would listen to.  The Same goes for Hillary and women.  Much was made about the women who supported Trump, even after the Access Hollywood tape.

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                                  There was plenty of it.  Maybe you lived in that echo chamber so it was just "yeah, I agree, vote for his/her 'oppression'".

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                                    I just can't do this anymore. I think all moderates as well as conservatives should just retreat into your bunkers and wait with your weapons pointed at these "people." They are clearly just waiting to destroy humankind as robot-actors of the communista. They are trying to kill us all. All these guys. They don't seem to want a sovereign nation. They just want this zombie state run by nonsense.

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                                      @raphjd:

                                      If there was a poll about how qualified Hillary's vagina (not Hillary the person) is, I'm sure liberals would have polled at nearly 100%.

                                      Same with Obama's blackness.

                                      Same with Trumps incompetence.  He proves everyday that he isn't  fit  to be President and the people cheer for it.

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                                        pppucci
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                                        @mhorndisk:

                                        I just can't do this anymore. I think all moderates as well as conservatives should just retreat into your bunkers and wait with your weapons pointed at these "people." They are clearly just waiting to destroy humankind as robot-actors of the communista. They are trying to kill us all. All these guys. They don't seem to want a sovereign nation. They just want this zombie state run by nonsense.

                                        :ot: :ot: :ot: :ot: :ot: :ot: :ot: :ot: :ot: :ot: :ot: :ot:
                                        I find the casual way you predict civil war and violence based on political belief indicative of a very disturbed mind.

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                                          Umm, Linda "Cockroach" Sarsour called for jihad and she's one of these poor, poor victimized peace loving muslims you want us to worship.

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                                            pppucci
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                                            @raphjd:

                                            Umm, Linda "Cockroach" Lasour called for jihad and she's one of these poor, poor victimized peace loving muslims you want us to worship.

                                            You are driving the discussion further off topic instead of trying to guide it back. Again you misrepresent the views of liberals on this board.  The "defense"  of Islam here has been that it is fundamentally a religion based on peaceful principles and that the majority of muslims are peaceful. No one has argued that every muslim was peaceful–in fact just the opposite by emphasizing that the entire group should not be judged by the actions of a few.
                                            By implicitly comparing mhorndisk's rant to jihad has nicely made my point.

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