How often do you get tested?
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Ok… I get that when you're known to be HIV+, there are some measures that must be taken to carry the drugs because they're a controlled substance, so it's about the drugs and not HIV itself.... My only question though is unless I misunderstood something, I thought you were saying that getting tested is required for the job, rather than having red tape to clear if you're HIV+ and are on the medications.
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To obtain the required medical certification you have to make blood tests (HIV included).
Since the JAA regulation is based upon the FAA regulation I would bet that apply equally to the US, Canada, Australia, … tooCould you explain me why is this so wrong ?
In order to pass their exams you have to agree to expose so many personal things,
I am not able to get why this is particularly an issue.( after all this happens in a medical institute plenty of doctors bound by professional secrecy )
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Again, you're not hearing me… All of this is fine and dandy for obvious reasons if you are already known to be HIV+... What you still haven't answered is exactly what you're referring to as what you're saying now does not sound like what I understood you to be saying originally. What I'm getting at is making the HIV test itself mandatory to determine whether or not you have HIV in the first place. THAT is what I'm getting at... It's all fine and dandy to have regulations for controlled substances and the processes that you have to follow. I get that part.
Where my issue comes into play is making the HIV test itself mandatory. Both in Canada as well as in the United States, there is this thing called the "Patient Bill of Rights". One of the things that it outlines very clearly is that when it comes to testing and/or treatment, the patient has a basic fundamental right to refuse. Furthermore, from the safety perspective, being HIV+ in and of itself does not possess an immediate safety issue to the general public. Furthermore, making this test mandatory automatically sets the assumption that if you work in the aviation industry, automatically you must be sexually active and are promiscuous by nature. This in an of itself helps promote the perpetual stigma that still surrounds HIV to this very day, even in larger communities. While I agree that if you're sexually active, especially if you're promiscuous, it only makes sense to get STI testing, this does not mean that working in the aviation industry automatically means that you are sexually active. Also, making the test mandatory both violates your basic fundamental right to refuse the testing, and it puts you at a disadvantage, largely for insurance purposes when you begin to build a paper trail, even if the test results are negative. Simply put, making it mandatory when being HIV+ in an of itself is in no way a safety issue, only further promotes the everyday stigma that we as people living with are faced with on a daily basis on many levels.
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every six months
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Again, you're not hearing me… All of this is fine and dandy for obvious reasons if you are already known to be HIV+... What you still haven't answered is exactly what you're referring to as what you're saying now does not sound like what I understood you to be saying originally. What I'm getting at is making the HIV test itself mandatory to determine whether or not you have HIV in the first place. THAT is what I'm getting at... It's all fine and dandy to have regulations for controlled substances and the processes that you have to follow. I get that part.
Where my issue comes into play is making the HIV test itself mandatory. Both in Canada as well as in the United States, there is this thing called the "Patient Bill of Rights". One of the things that it outlines very clearly is that when it comes to testing and/or treatment, the patient has a basic fundamental right to refuse. Furthermore, from the safety perspective, being HIV+ in and of itself does not possess an immediate safety issue to the general public. Furthermore, making this test mandatory automatically sets the assumption that if you work in the aviation industry, automatically you must be sexually active and are promiscuous by nature. This in an of itself helps promote the perpetual stigma that still surrounds HIV to this very day, even in larger communities. While I agree that if you're sexually active, especially if you're promiscuous, it only makes sense to get STI testing, this does not mean that working in the aviation industry automatically means that you are sexually active. Also, making the test mandatory both violates your basic fundamental right to refuse the testing, and it puts you at a disadvantage, largely for insurance purposes when you begin to build a paper trail, even if the test results are negative. Simply put, making it mandatory when being HIV+ in an of itself is in no way a safety issue, only further promotes the everyday stigma that we as people living with are faced with on a daily basis on many levels.
Thank you, I am now able to understand the reason of your interest.
In my experience if you're not aware of your status then they test you.
Because of the "Patient Bill of Rights" it's probable you can decline,
but I have never seen someone asking not to get tested,
most of the times you don't even know what's going on and hope only to end up asap (boredom).The FAA rules are more relaxed than any other, so I wouldn't complain.
As an example (Europe) [JAR–FCL 3.190,3.310] : test mandatory + HIV positivity is disqualifying. -
Once a year, and I have a partner.
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being active in sexual activities i follow my social health doctor's advice for 4x a year. i have no problem with that since testing is free in my country and it also alleviates me of worries since i include the other std tests with it by paying a small amount. i really recommend having regular tests.
I am negative and my partner is positive. I get tested every 3 months, well, 4x a year.
so how do you guys do it? I always wonder. do you perform BJ with condom aside from the anal? or you wait until his viral is low?
Sorry to reply so late!
Well, technically, we would do the foreplay without any condom, but when I start to blow him, he always wear condom.
When I do the anal (I am the top) I always wear condom. There are times when I have to replace the condom during the intercourse.
If he bleeds, we usually cancel the anal and do other things.However, as I was told by the nurse in an HIV/AIDS center, my chance of getting HIV from my partner is quite low. He even said that it is safe to swallow and to do the anal without condom, as long as my partner never skip taking the ART.
We don't want to take the risk, so we keep using condoms.
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being active in sexual activities i follow my social health doctor's advice for 4x a year. i have no problem with that since testing is free in my country and it also alleviates me of worries since i include the other std tests with it by paying a small amount. i really recommend having regular tests.
I am negative and my partner is positive. I get tested every 3 months, well, 4x a year.
so how do you guys do it? I always wonder. do you perform BJ with condom aside from the anal? or you wait until his viral is low?
Sorry to reply so late!
Well, technically, we would do the foreplay without any condom, but when I start to blow him, he always wear condom.
When I do the anal (I am the top) I always wear condom. There are times when I have to replace the condom during the intercourse.
If he bleeds, we usually cancel the anal and do other things.However, as I was told by the nurse in an HIV/AIDS center, my chance of getting HIV from my partner is quite low. He even said that it is safe to swallow and to do the anal without condom, as long as my partner never skip taking the ART.
We don't want to take the risk, so we keep using condoms.
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once a year
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Every six months. My BF is HIV+ and we've been together for more than 8 years.
I am still - -
Every six months. My BF is HIV+ and we've been together for more than 8 years.
I am still -Good for you!
:cheers:
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Every six months. My BF is HIV+ and we've been together for more than 8 years.
I am still -And if he's on the meds and undetectable, I would be completely shocked if he were to pass it onto you, even with bareback sex all the time, and no pulling out.
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Every six months. My BF is HIV+ and we've been together for more than 8 years.
I am still -And if he's on the meds and undetectable, I would be completely shocked if he were to pass it onto you, even with bareback sex all the time, and no pulling out.
I wouldn't take the risk though..
:blink:
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I wouldn't take the risk though..
:blink:
I fully respect your right to decide what is right for you, but do you mind if I ask why this is? Science has been able to validate that if you are undetectable, you actually cannot pass it onto a sexual partner. There have been many studies conducted to attempt to quantify the risk, and every last one of them failed to provide so much as one case where transmission occurred from the undetectable partner.
So… I respect your right to choose what is right for you (especially if you are doing so armed with all the facts), but I'm kinda curious to understand the reasoning behind that decision.
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Every six months. My BF is HIV+ and we've been together for more than 8 years.
I am still -And if he's on the meds and undetectable, I would be completely shocked if he were to pass it onto you, even with bareback sex all the time, and no pulling out.
We use precautions and we wouldn't risk it bareback. Even if undectable you are still at risk of passing the virus.
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Every three months
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I wouldn't take the risk though..
:blink:
I fully respect your right to decide what is right for you, but do you mind if I ask why this is? Science has been able to validate that if you are undetectable, you actually cannot pass it onto a sexual partner. There have been many studies conducted to attempt to quantify the risk, and every last one of them failed to provide so much as one case where transmission occurred from the undetectable partner.
So… I respect your right to choose what is right for you (especially if you are doing so armed with all the facts), but I'm kinda curious to understand the reasoning behind that decision.
I don't understand the question. What reasoning are you talking about?
We are a monogamous couple and we practice safe sex. Other people have told us the same thing about undetectable and not being able to transmit the virus, though we haven't found an actual study that says this we just prefer to play safe.He is my second partner that was Pos and I am still neg, so I think I'm doing things correctly.
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Ssix months
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Once every three months, but honestly, I'd prefer to get tested every month due to peace of mind.
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