The moral high ground and the left
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First off, there is NO side that can lay claim to the moral high ground. Realistically speaking- both sides are guilty of things which make it impossible for them to claim the moral high ground. There? How does that sound for you? Now you can't claim that all liberals are unwilling to take responsibility. How about you? When have YOU ever accepted responsibility for what Conservatives do? You are so quick to claim liberals are unwilling to accept the blame for their failings, but you're no better.
Next- really YouTube? Is that the best you can do? The same place where my cousin's friend goes to post his latest rants about how he can't get a date, and how women are all to blame for that? The same place that allows anyone to post practically any claim WITHOUT any fact checking AT ALL?
And yet just because it doesn't say what you want to hear, you choose to call traditional news media "fake". You want to discredit the validity of an ENTIRE PROFESSION? Seriously? Last I looked- there's still something called journalistic integrity. And if there's one place you've got a greater risk of getting fake news it's on YouTube.
To put it simply- would you go to a snake oil salesman to cure you, or would you go to a hospital with trained professionals? You do the math.
I'm only a conservative to the loony left.
I have condemned all the violence.
So let get this right, you are saying that because it's on YouTube it didn't happen. So the video of those 2 "women" setting the other's hair on fire, is fake? The video shows them actually doing it. Pretty much everything I mentioned is shown in actual video footage of the event, showing what I described. It's up to you to prove the footage is doctored or whatever your bogus claim is.
Chris Cuomo and his female co-host admitted on air that they and the rest of CNN did everything possible to make sure Hillary won. Other "news" outlets and basically all of social media did the same. Even Google got in on the act to bury news that made Hillary and the left look bad.
It was the leftist media that tried to ignore the Chicago kidnapping. They were also the ones refusing to label it a hate crime, despite the confessions of the 4 kidnappers.
Shockingly, and something I totally agree with, TYT is the only leftist "news" outlet that condemned all the liberal false flagging.
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I'm only a conservative to the loony left.
I have condemned all the violence.
Good on you then. I may hate the message and the content of what you post here now and then, but that's as far as it goes for me.
As for the things on YouTube- you can believe what you choose, I am just more wary about swallowing things from a source that has zero fact checking- and which literally anyone can post whatever they want and APPEAR to be authoritative and factual.
And for the things CNN said, and the lack of condemnation and such- that's on CNN and there are failings in all sources of news. But that doesn't taint EVERYTHING they do. There are more credible places to look for news- like BBC, Time, Reuters, NYT, Washington Post, etc.
It's their job to be factual, and I'd rather believe in journalistic ethics and integrity than put my trust in a platform as open to abuse as YouTube.In closing, I think this is just a good a place as any to say that I disagree strongly with many things you say on here, but I know you have your reasons- and it may or may not be because you've been terribly hurt in the past by something liberals said or did. If so, I hope you move past that and see the flaws and also the benefits of both sides.
From the start, I've always liked your sig a lot. It stood out first because I'm big on dogs. And I agreed with the sentiment. At least on that we can find common ground. Good day to you!
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The left claim that they have the moral high ground, yet they hide their faces and use violence to make their point.
They will burn the American flag and talk about borders being racist, but refuse to burn the Mexican flag. It shows they respect Mexico's borders, but not the US's borders.
They can't debate because they know their argument sucks, so they are left with name calling and violence.
They hate Blair White and Skylar because they are real trans, not the liberal "gender trenders" the left worships so much.
They hate free speech so much, that they are willing to set fire to buildings that people are in, to prevent free speech from happening.
They believe it's good to gang up on an already unconscious, bloody person and stomp on them and beat them with sticks because they MIGHT believe something you don't like.
They scream "nazi" at anyone who points out how fucking hypocritical they are in everything they stand for.
They find it acceptable for a male cuck, er um, feminist to punch a woman because she asked a difficult question.
It's ok for them to pour piss over someone's head because they disagree with you.
They refuse to condemn the violence their side uses, even when the other side condemns ALL violence.
They believe it's ok to prevent emergency vehicles from getting through.
They believe it's ok for women to hit men, but men can't fight back. But they're feminists, who cry for equality.
They say that men who don't make sure their female partner orgasms during sex is a selfish pig, but a sexist if he does.
They think it's ok to advocate aborting male babies, and using the hashtag #Not Another Monster
They cry for gender equality, until we try to give it to them, like equalizing the retirement age in the UK or sex crime and domestic violence laws in various countries. That's when they get fucking butt hurt.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE CLAIMING THE MORAL HIGH GROUND.
This might be the single most ill-cited, ill-informed, illogical block of text I have ever read in my life. I'd be so embarrassed to actually hold these beliefs.
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This might be the single most ill-cited, ill-informed, illogical block of text I have ever read in my life. I'd be so embarrassed to actually hold these beliefs.
Prove my points wrong.
The Berkley riot to prevent Milo from speaking. They set the building he and others were in on fire. They also beat a guy unconscious and kept going. The videos are out there showing these events.
The that cuck feminists is on video punching a woman reporter because he didn't like the question, because it made him look stupid.
Everything I said is true and most have been discussed her countless times. Instead of getting butt hurt, tell me why I'm wrong.
Oh and I forgot to add, Liberals think they can claim muslim countries are gay utopias, then run away from the conversation when I insist they provide names of these countries. This happened in a very recent thread.
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Really, Milo Yiannopoulos, do you have to come to gaytorrent to spew this rubbish? This would be nauseating if it wasn't so boring.
The left claim that they have the moral high ground, yet they hide their faces and use violence to make their point.
They will burn the American flag and talk about borders being racist, but refuse to burn the Mexican flag. It shows they respect Mexico's borders, but not the US's borders.
They can't debate because they know their argument sucks, so they are left with name calling and violence.
They hate Blair White and Skylar because they are real trans, not the liberal "gender trenders" the left worships so much.
They hate free speech so much, that they are willing to set fire to buildings that people are in, to prevent free speech from happening.
They believe it's good to gang up on an already unconscious, bloody person and stomp on them and beat them with sticks because they MIGHT believe something you don't like.
They scream "nazi" at anyone who points out how fucking hypocritical they are in everything they stand for.
They find it acceptable for a male cuck, er um, feminist to punch a woman because she asked a difficult question.
It's ok for them to pour piss over someone's head because they disagree with you.
They refuse to condemn the violence their side uses, even when the other side condemns ALL violence.
They believe it's ok to prevent emergency vehicles from getting through.
They believe it's ok for women to hit men, but men can't fight back. But they're feminists, who cry for equality.
They say that men who don't make sure their female partner orgasms during sex is a selfish pig, but a sexist if he does.
They think it's ok to advocate aborting male babies, and using the hashtag #Not Another Monster
They cry for gender equality, until we try to give it to them, like equalizing the retirement age in the UK or sex crime and domestic violence laws in various countries. That's when they get fucking butt hurt.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE CLAIMING THE MORAL HIGH GROUND.
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So you are denying the Berkley riot to prevent Milo from speaking? REALLY?!
I don't agree with Milo on most things, but it does not change the facts that the riot and related events happened to prevent his free speech.
I noticed you ignored the other points I made. I guess you have nothing to add to this or any discussion.
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You got exactly the reply you deserved. It is you, who has nothing to add. To public discourse or to the world.
If you're feeling angry darling, why not download a torrent and have a fap?
I'm in Europe darling, no one would pay attention to him here, so he went to stir something up over there. And you do the same type of trolling. Just do everyone a favour and join a debating society where arguing with this rubbush you spew will at least not be a waste of time.
So you are denying the Berkley riot to prevent Milo from speaking? REALLY?!
I don't agree with Milo on most things, but it does not change the facts that the riot and related events happened to prevent his free speech.
I noticed you ignored the other points I made. I guess you have nothing to add to this or any discussion.
Spam - flaming -
Ok, so you are nothing but a troll who has nothing to add to any conversation.
You jumped into this thread to flame. Gotcha.
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I hope you realize that LGBT activists from our history would qualify as "intolerant left libtard topkecks" according to the definition, and that you and everybody else in our community would probably not be alive today were not for their horrendous leftist ways. In fact, if it weren't for that horrible liberal propaganda, we'd probably all be either committed to a loonie hospital or being gassed in a concentration camp somewhere.
But, you know, it's the libcucks that are the cancer ruining society, etc.
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Do you not actually see the difference?
Back then, they/we were fighting for real things.
Fighting for the rights of real LGBTs is a lot different than fighting to make people believe that some times wear jeans makes you gender fluid or that there are unlimited genders.
Riley Dennis is not trans. He is a guy that wears eye shadow and girls tops.
Elliot Cope is not trans. She is a girl who wants attention. I mean, fucking really, a girl who claims to be a girl boy who likes to be a girl. It's Victor/Victoria on crack. As part of her bullshit, she has caused actual harm to the 1 real trans at her school.
Dakota is a self described "gender terrorist" who's gender changes every second and it's always a new gender. Wearing tampons in your beard does nothing other than make you a freak.
We didn't fight for equality so NYC, Canada and others now punish people/businesses (depending on the place) for mis-gendering people, even on accident. Imagine girly girl Elliot Cope walking into a NYC business. She could kill that business because she plays at being a Trans boy who like being a girly girl. $125,000 fine for each time a business in NYC ACCIDENTALLY mis-genders someone and $250,000 if it's on purpose.
It's this kind of shit that got me to stop identifying as a liberal and end up hating liberals. There is nothing liberal about modern liberals.
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Do you not actually see the difference?
Back then, they/we were fighting for real things.
Fighting for the rights of real LGBTs is a lot different than fighting to make people believe that some times wear jeans makes you gender fluid or that there are unlimited genders.
Riley Dennis is not trans. He is a guy that wears eye shadow and girls tops.
Elliot Cope is not trans. She is a girl who wants attention. I mean, fucking really, a girl who claims to be a girl boy who likes to be a girl. It's Victor/Victoria on crack. As part of her bullshit, she has caused actual harm to the 1 real trans at her school.
Dakota is a self described "gender terrorist" who's gender changes every second and it's always a new gender. Wearing tampons in your beard does nothing other than make you a freak.
We didn't fight for equality so NYC, Canada and others now punish people/businesses (depending on the place) for mis-gendering people, even on accident. Imagine girly girl Elliot Cope walking into a NYC business. She could kill that business because she plays at being a Trans boy who like being a girly girl. $125,000 fine for each time a business in NYC ACCIDENTALLY mis-genders someone and $250,000 if it's on purpose.
It's this kind of shit that got me to stop identifying as a liberal and end up hating liberals. There is nothing liberal about modern liberals.
raph is SOOOOOOOOOO triggered!
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The left actually has lost control over its messaging and may lose its purpose because what's happening to people like Milo and Ann Coulter is WRONG, you cannot deny that. There should not be riots to stop people from speaking, that's crazy. And it's really only happening on the left because I've been to speeches given by left-wing lunatics like Dr. Cornel West and NO conservatives attempted to block him, no one even objected to it and he is a real left-wing psycho. As much as I would love to tell Cornel West to shut up, I believe in free speech. If this was both sides, where are the conservatives blocking people like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders or even Barack Obama? I can't believe some of you are truly making the both sides argument on this. If you condone this kind of behavior then we're going to go down a slippery slope into a place where no one will be able to say anything. Then we'll all be :crazy2:
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I hope you see that your fellow liberals are down voting you because you aren't towing the liberal party line.
It doesn't matter which side advocates for free speech, liberals will hate it. This shows that most liberals find it acceptable to set use violence to prevent free speech and agree with setting fire to occupied building to prevent free speech.
So far, only 2 liberals have defended free speech and condemned the violence.
That is why I no longer call myself a liberal and now despise liberals. Only a tiny fraction of modern liberals are even remotely sensible.
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This is a serious problem on the left and very few want to call it out. Bill Maher, who I also don't always agree with, speaks about it all the time. Only one side is committing very real acts of VIOLENCE to stop people from speaking. I do not care if a speaker is literally making the argument that all black people are subhuman or that all gays will go to hell, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY IT. Why not make arguments against what they are saying instead of setting fires and randomly punching people who have not committed any acts of physical violence against you? Is it because this new wave of liberals do not know how to frame arguments? This literally is no different than Muslims wanting to physically harm people who make fun of Muhammad or draw pictures of him.
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This kind of behavior needs to be called out, not ignored and not falsely equated to what conservatives do because conservatives do not currently behave this way. Barack Obama participated in a forum at a college and NO conservatives caused a riot to stop him, not one person did anything to stop him from coming. Bill Clinton spoke at my old high school last year while Hillary was running for president and once again, not one conservative person said a single word to stop him and the county I grew up in has always been a deep red Republican county. This truly is a problem only on the left and more people on the left need to start condemning it. You guys can down vote me all you want but you can't hide from the reality that the left is losing control when it comes to this. You can't say conservatives are the same as they were back in the 1950s and 1960s when in reality they aren't the ones blocking people from doing things. If it were both sides, where are the instances where conservatives are blocking Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Dr. Cornel West, Melissa Harris-Perry, Cory Booker or anyone else on the left and far-left??? Show me proof or admit that the false equivalence argument is :crazy2:
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Lots of right wing groups have routinely called out and protested at speaking events of left leaning people. The heritage foundation even pays people to do it. The focus on the family organization has events scheduled in advance to protest speakers that they don't agree with and they and others like to gang up and try and force speakers down.
It pretty much the same from both sides, unfortunately. Look at many of Hillary Clintons campaign stops. She had people try and disrupt as much as Trump did, probably more. -
The difference is; liberals advocate for and use violence to prevent free speech, while conservatives simply protest.
Sure, now you are seeing counter protests by conservatives where things are getting violent. However, you have to consider that there would be no violence if the liberals weren't doing their bullshit. Portland OR has had violent clashes because conservatives are trying to keep traffic moving, while liberals are trying to shut down the city.
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Libtards only care about group rights. They have no distinctiveness, no individual qualities, no precision. It's all borg, all hive, all sheep mentality. This is subliminal pandering like a horse being led with a carrot. Of course a transgender person will entail all the rights of an individual, but when you start speaking about transgender rights, you start to disassociate from the family unit and start thinking instead of blood family but mentality driven false family ideologies.
You don't speak for me. You are not my family. You can only speak for yourself. Rosie O'Donnell does not speak for me. Madonna does not speak for me. Michael Moore does not speak for me. Colbert does not speak for me. Obama does not speak for me. Ellen does not speak for me. YOU do not speak for me. I am an individual and only I speak for me. I don't care about group rights. That's pandering and group think like sheep and trying to box everyone into a victimhood mentality like OH you're one of us! I'm not one of you. I'm distinct you stupid bitches. I'm my own person, and I am not boxed into your little concept of what a gay person or your idea of a gay family is. Honestly you're just too stupid for me to want to associate with. You can literally go fuck yourself and get beheaded by ISIS since you love them so much and act like they're such wonderful people - go get it. I don't care.
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Lots of right wing groups have routinely called out and protested at speaking events of left leaning people. The heritage foundation even pays people to do it. The focus on the family organization has events scheduled in advance to protest speakers that they don't agree with and they and others like to gang up and try and force speakers down.
It pretty much the same from both sides, unfortunately. Look at many of Hillary Clintons campaign stops. She had people try and disrupt as much as Trump did, probably more.Whoa, whoa :crap:
I'm sorry but there is a HUGE difference between protesting at a Clinton campaign stop and setting fire to buildings and cars to stop someone from speaking. I went to some Clinton campaign stops and no one ever shouted over her or Bill or anyone else who was speaking and this was in South Carolina. This is a red state and no one did anything disrespectful or harmful to stop anyone on the left from speaking. Agent Orange did call for his supporters to commit acts of violence at his rallies and there were a few incidents, but nothing on the level of what we've been seeing on the left. Are you aware that death threats (illegal btw) and acts of violence stopped Ann Coulter from giving a speech? Name a time in the past year where death threats kept a liberal from giving a speech. Once again, not even a left-wing psycho like Cornel West has been stopped from speaking. I am liberal and I am in no way trying to support conservatives, but they have a legitimate argument right now.Edit: There was one dumb young black millenial pro-Bernie girl who disrupted Hillary in my state at a private event bringing up a political statement that Hillary made back in the 90s, but she was quickly thrown out and Hillary was able to finish what she was saying. That was pretty much as close Hillary got to being disrupted, and no one was hurt. Compare that to the destruction caused on college campuses to keep right-wing speakers from speaking. You simply cannot make the both sides arguments. I mean damn, look at what's happening in New Orleans right now. Are the pro-slavery and pro-confederacy supporters of those monuments rioting and burning down the city to keep those disgusting monuments up? There's been a few shoving but they have been protesting relatively peaceful compared to those idiots on the college campuses.
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Lots of right wing groups have routinely called out and protested at speaking events of left leaning people. The heritage foundation even pays people to do it. The focus on the family organization has events scheduled in advance to protest speakers that they don't agree with and they and others like to gang up and try and force speakers down.
It pretty much the same from both sides, unfortunately. Look at many of Hillary Clintons campaign stops. She had people try and disrupt as much as Trump did, probably more.BLM stopped Bernie rallies, not conservatives.
BLM hijacked the the Orlando vigil, not conservatives.
BLM hijacked countless PRIDE events, not conservatives.
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