Would you use a condom if you're fucking a virgin?

[tuckstee]

It would depend if it was a random encounter or you were in a relationship.

If random, then yes.

[taqaa]

:afr:

Jesus, yes!  Condom usage isn't solely about protecting yourself.

[serbiasmiley]

People, AIDS is not dead, use condom

[pornofan]

A man with a fair amount of sex may, these days, nonetheless never have fucked freestyle and unprotected. In a committed and exclusive loving relationship, after both parties had tested negative for HIV, it was like a loss of virginity, having natural skin-on-skin sex without inhibition or restraint, between two men deeply in love. Each was thrilled to have been able to provide that experience as well as to enjoy that experience, and the sense of emotional trust and intimacy involved was more rewarding than either man had ever known.

The decision to go bareback from the very beginning until forever was not forced, but seemed like the simplest and most obvious sexual experience in the world. On dating sites, strangers often come on to a possible hookup demanding unprotected sex from the beginning, not as something to be worked into over time as their bonds ripen and deepen. Preposterous, and a sure sign of someone who is not interested in protecting his partner or meeting that partner's needs.

In the case described, part of what made it possible was that neither one demanded to go BB, not even hinted that maybe, maybe…. When it became evident there were only two people involved and that both of them fully intended their new partner to be their only partner going forward, it seemed obvious that what should happen the first time was to make sure that they did it "right," right from the start. The reward was such an overflow of caring and love and consideration, and such a totally unrestrained pounding on the way to an unprecedented orgasm as the top sprayed his load hot and wild inside where it served as lube for an immediate repeat.

That all by itself made the decision evidently correct. It sure was different than what either was used to.

[MrMazda]

@serbiasmiley:

People, AIDS is not dead, use condom

Actually, at this day and age, HIV is the least of your worries. I'll bet you didn't know that more recent studies that attempted to quantify risk factors among gay men have all noted that there has been not a single case of HIV transmission from a person who is HIV+ with an undetectable viral load. The fact remains that most people with HIV (although not all) within North America at least are all on HIV meds and maintain such an undetectable viral load. Simply put, it's a lot harder at this day and age to catch it than you might think.

[groovedware]

Or to put it a little simpler:

"People, being HIV+ is not a death sentence and for chrissakes stop acting like it's the plague, it's only the middle ages in the middle east"

And no I would not put a condom on for a virgin because quite simply I prefer my holes to have a little more experience.  I am not good at controlling myself which is why I have earned the reputation of being a nasty top.  The one virgin I did break in didn't mention the virgin bit and I only learned later when the accusations of me raping him got to my ears.

[MrMazda]

@groovedware:

The one virgin I did break in didn't mention the virgin bit and I only learned later when the accusations of me raping him got to my ears.

I feel your pain… I have been through hell with wrongful accusations with things like that before. Just be glad it didn't wrongfully land you in jail like it did with me.

[hhsq]

Gee guys! That sounds awful!  :afr: 
Now, a bit about the risks: once again it's cool to remember that people from all over the world use the forum. In Europe and North America I guess it's pretty easy for people to be on meds for HIV, but that may not be the reality of some other places around the world. So, as to put things into perspective, protection as a general rule seems a good and wise thing to do. If you live in a very priviledged place and feel safe about it, then ok, I think it's great that people can enjoy free sex without being worried - I wish I felt that safe, as bareback sex is indeed great. But I knew people around here where I live that died because they could not pay for meds… yes... still in these days =/

[Ripley]

@groovedware:

I have earned the reputation of being a nasty top.

That sounds actually really hot.

[darkershades]

@Ripley:

@groovedware:

I have earned the reputation of being a nasty top.

That sounds actually really hot.

indeed! bareback all the way!

[groovedware]

@Ripley:

@groovedware:

I have earned the reputation of being a nasty top.

That sounds actually really hot.

Yes, well, it's not actually "hot" so much as when I am the top I expect the same respect I give when I am on bottom.  I have learned the hard way that I am fairly unique in this regard or just have bad luck with bottoms because I usually only get the whiny ones.

Though I don't go for virgins maybe if I was more persuasive with the whole "just shut up and take it" routine I might set my sights lower.

[aloura]

Guys, you can never be sure but if you are and you are tested negative, why not try it.  :cheesy2:

[Ripley]

@groovedware:

@Ripley:

@groovedware:

I have earned the reputation of being a nasty top.

That sounds actually really hot.

Yes, well, it's not actually "hot" so much as when I am the top I expect the same respect I give when I am on bottom.  I have learned the hard way that I am fairly unique in this regard or just have bad luck with bottoms because I usually only get the whiny ones.

Though I don't go for virgins maybe if I was more persuasive with the whole "just shut up and take it" routine I might set my sights lower.

I mean, sounds hot for me, I would like a top like that, that's it.

[groovedware]

@Ripley:

@groovedware:

@Ripley:

@groovedware:

I have earned the reputation of being a nasty top.

That sounds actually really hot.

Yes, well, it's not actually "hot" so much as when I am the top I expect the same respect I give when I am on bottom.  I have learned the hard way that I am fairly unique in this regard or just have bad luck with bottoms because I usually only get the whiny ones.

Though I don't go for virgins maybe if I was more persuasive with the whole "just shut up and take it" routine I might set my sights lower.

I mean, sounds hot for me, I would like a top like that, that's it.

Well, a top like that is what you have with me but the question is are you the bottom for me.  I have a test for potential bottoms which is not checking for virginity (though I should really include that) if you are interested.

[Ripley]

@groovedware:

I have a test for potential bottoms which is not checking for virginity if you are interested.

Sounds interesting… So What constitutes the test?

[jaybird]

Absolutely. 
And the fact that they have meds for HIV etc. now isn't cause enough to just throw caution out.  They have medicine for burn victims too, doesn't mean I'm going to start flicking my hand in fireplaces because statistics are favorable.

If we aren't in a committed relationship, condoms are going to be used, no negotiations.

[musclejizz 0]

Absolutely! It's not just HIV, it's all the other STDS i'm worried about. Plus, it's also out of respect for my partner.

[spam17]

:blink:

[Ozboi]

@MrMazda:

Actually, at this day and age, HIV is the least of your worries. I'll bet you didn't know that more recent studies that attempted to quantify risk factors among gay men have all noted that there has been not a single case of HIV transmission from a person who is HIV+ with an undetectable viral load. The fact remains that most people with HIV (although not all) within North America at least are all on HIV meds and maintain such an undetectable viral load. Simply put, it's a lot harder at this day and age to catch it than you might think.

Omfg.

Our analyses suggest that the risk of HIV transmission in heterosexual partnerships in the presence of effective treatment is low but non-zero and that the transmission risk in male homosexual partnerships is high over repeated exposures. If the claim of non-infectiousness in effectively treated patients was widely accepted, and condom use subsequently declined, then there is the potential for substantial increases in HIV incidence.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673608611150

Conclusions: Most serodiscordant gay couples do not engage in any Unprotected Anal Intercourse (UAI). UAI within such relationships is significantly more likely to occur where the HIV-positive partner is reported to have undetectable viral load. UAI in HIV serodiscordant relationships is problematic even if viral load is undetectable because of unknown risk parameters, viral load variability and the possibility of drug-resistant strains of HIV.

http://journals.lww.com/aidsonline/Fulltext/2005/01280/Decline_in_HIV_infectivity_following_the.10.aspx

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@aloura:

Guys, you can never be sure but if you are and you are tested negative, why not try it.  :cheesy2:

You can never be sure, but if you are (sure)…

That statement contradicts itself.

and you are tested negative, why not try it.  :cheesy2:

WINDOW PERIOD.

[addic2porn]

How can one be sure that the person is a virgin. There is no way to find out…
but what do you think... does it gives more pleasure to feel the skin, flesh inside without condom?