actually thats way we don't mix sexuality and religion, altough one thing has nothing to do with the other

The robes are dresses and feminine. They were always molesting children and especially little boys from the beginning. This gives us a weird compromising place in the gay community.

I know plenty who are religious and gay. You can certainly cling to the traditions you grew up with without actually believing. That's also nice.

I think nope. Once I met a gay Christian, he never confessed but he wanted to do this he was very frightened because of this. I'm sure the priest would have told him to stop being gay because it's all demons. "And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death." Leviticus So just lie with mankind, as with mankind, and problem is gone. Religion is not about the church and not about people and not even about God, religion is only about you. But if your bible said "You must be dead". P.s.: "Homosexuals are possessed by demons? Those demons are fabulous!" Someone from web, idk.

Ah, other topics was closed until I clicked the + which I didn't see before, sorry.

@raphjd: I'm all for outing those who live in the closet while doing harm to their fellow gays. I don't like Tom Cruise nor Kirk Cameron either.

Well, Higgs, I disagree on many of your points. 1. (Scientific knowledge and religion have nothing to do with each other at all.) You might argue that all knowledge is "subjective" because we use our senses to gain it, but each of my senses and senses of all the people around me corroborate that knowledge so it is quite reliable. You seem to be using the term "subjective" to find an excuse to equalize something we observe everyday with things we never do. If I fall from a 10 story building, I will most likely die. That's as close to objective, as you can get. Things like life after death and washing away sins after believing in Jesus have not been observed. Not by reliable sources anyway. And by hampering science, just take a look at evolution denialists for example, that stems from creationism and creationism stems from theistic religion. 2. I don't see how things offensive to common sense can be an advantage. If you don't like that word, I can change it to individual morality: what ever I do has consequences on others and I take those into account. TO say that christianity and islam question the liberal views is totally backwards. It is not liberal views that have slavery condoned into their sacred texts, liberals don't kill gays, liberals don't protect their rapist coleagues in churches. If you had something else that qualifies as a radically different view of truth, by all means say it. Though, whatever you might have, can't be exclusive to religion. I'm not saying that all religious people do afwul things, but if they don't, they don't because they have their own morality and sense of good. 3. Love and charity are something people are capable of with or without religion. "Whatever is good in Christianity belongs properly to Christianity". Please, do name something that is good and is good exclusively in christianity.

:thankyou: Have you tried Nagcarlan or Liliw, Laguna, it's not far from MM and resorts there are not expensive

I personally hate when I hear about those types. They made a choice and they knew the "rules". If they want to support their religion or local community they can do so in a lot of ways, they don't have to become a priest for this.

As much I hate to say it, yes. We're (almost?) at that point where scientific models have replaced theological ones, but as Marx has said, "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people". PS. All science does is describe shit, not give the world meaning. I dunno, I'm not smart enough for this shit.

never heard in Italy.