@Shami94: Yes, well it wouldn't be the first time Trump has subverted the democratic process for his own ends would it. One of the things that still amazes me about trumptards is that they know people like Julian Assange and Vladimir Putin hate the USA and they want to destroy it, yet they did their utmost to get Trump elected. The trumptards are still incapable of putting two and two together. Are you serious? That's not subverting the process. It IS a possible scenario but McCain wouldn't take it. Julian Assange doesn't hate the USA. He exposed Bernie being cheated - you are ignoring that they cheated him. How do you feel about the DNC deliberately cheating Bernie? Is that OK with you? I think McCain is done anyway.

@Frederick: I have previously pointed out that AFTER the Charlottesville car rammer plowed AHEAD, he was immediately attacked by over a dozen people dressed in fatigues with deadly, heavy weapons - resulting in him backing up rather than to sit there and be beaten to death.  BUT there is is more to it than that! Here is PROOF that he didn't plow ahead until AFTER he was attacked! Watch the video. https://youtu.be/JrRxXxJoraI?t=52 Oh my..! :blink:

@raphjd: Both sides have posted conspiracy theories, fake news and whatnot.     It's not my job to be the site's fact checker on every topic.   As I have repeatedly said, slug it out in a DEBATE, don't whine to me to remove it.   If it's fake news, then you'll win with proof. Fred called some leftist a "racist" and they whined to me, demanding he be muted.   If I muted everyone who called me (not even counting the other non leftists), all the leftists would be muted. I'm called "extreme far right" because I hate the identity politics of the left and I don't hate Trump enough.   I'm evil because I hate bikelock liberals, rather than worship them.   I'm hated because I don't blindly view every violent action by the left as justified. I liked at most the obvious part of your answer: "If it's fake news, then you'll win with proof."

@Frederick: After failing to fire 4 missiles at Guam on August 15th… Kim Jong Un has gone silent and unseen.  It's possible he could be dead, or imprisoned, or might as well be. He has been boxed in.  He has no place to go, nothing more he can do.  His power was based upon bold promises of glory and domination and standing up to the USA. He can't do that anymore.  He is now like the "Boy Who Cried Wolf".  He has exhausted every bit of self promotion out of his bombastic behavior.  It's all down hill for him now, assuming he is still alive. It's been like a 50 year game of chess with North Korea.. and Donald Trump finally got check-mate!    Trump is a lot smarter than even I give him credit for.   It's possible that Trump is almost as smart as me! His kids aren't that smart though.. other than Barron. ;D

@raphjd: This poor cop can't win for losing. The far right hate him because of his race, while the left hate him because he's a cop. Put me down for hating him for being a cop.  By the way, cops are discouraged from having tattoos, and from wearing reflective sunglasses.

@raphjd: https://bluelivesmatter.blue/abe-lincoln-statue-vandalized/ See, this whole thing is nothing but idiots running amuck. One reason the moonbats might be destroying these statues and monuments is that they realize that so few of their own heroes have monuments.. because they are so insignificant. I would not be surprised if some busts of MLK Jr. get busted soon.    Who knows.. even MLK Jr. might be too "right wing" for the moonbats.

Hey! What happened to this FAKE NEWS you posted? Nothing. Because it was FAKE, and everyone knew it, and that's why it's not even a subject being discussed anymore. You are a good propagandist, aren't you? Just like, OH CNN SAID IT! So it must be a subject to be venerated… but now we look back and see that you were just promoting fake stories. That is what you did. As we said, Trump was never looking into pardoning himself from fake stories. You said we were conspiring and all this other crap, but guess what? You dropped it and thought it would disappear. You promote fake news, bro. You don't know how to analyze information objectively, you just promote lies. Otherwise, this "story" you latched onto would be the story of the day, but it isn't, because it was stupid.

Come on Libtards. You know you want to defend Merck for sabotaging Trump's manufacturing council… can you really do it? Come on... We're waiting... Tick tock. So goes the clock...

The idea that we need to dismantle statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln, etc, is totally ridiculous. The African American slaves were sold by Africans - black people were slave owners and slave drivers too. The idea that white's dominating slaves is ludicrous. Yes there were horrible people like Leonardo DiCaprio played, but seriously? Whites were slaves too. We can't destroy the past. We can only deal with it and move on. Erasing history isn't going to happen. They got rid of Robert E Lee's statue, but it only made us all more aware of it. It only made his statue stand in our minds as remembrance even more. I'm not pro-slavery or racist, I've been in relationships with every race there is, but this is just plain a waste of time and energy.

I guess they could replace it with the video of Michael Brown "strong arm" robbing the shop about 45 minutes before he's killed by the cop.

Care to weigh-in Polar Bear? Maybe you can enlighten us as to how we are wrong? When the Judicial Watch lawsuit makes head-streams, as it already has begun to do, what then? Will you deny the evidence that has already been brought forth to the people? Illegals in California in particular, ARE allowed to vote. They can just come on over illegally and cast their vote. You're ok with that though, no surprise, because they voted against Trump. Why would they vote FOR him? You just don't have the American people in this country backing you, and that's reality. You don't want to accept it, but it's ok! It's OK, man. You don't have to believe in law and order, you can just go out to the jungle or the desert and kick on some pricks, all alone. You live here in this society, where we have laws, and we just want them to stop hopping over the fence so we know they don't have criminal records. They need to show their ID to prove they aren't criminals. That's all we ask. It's too much for you, fine. We are the ones with the common sense backing us.

The UK is a bit different.    Only head of household land owners could vote.    So a single woman who owned property could vote, but this was uncommon. Emmeline Pankhurst, the mother of feminism, is the reason we have the draft.    ALL men got the vote in lieu of the draft.  While the men were at war, their women could vote in their place.    ALL women got the vote a few years after WW1. Emmeline Pankhurst was a total man hating cunt, but feminists try to whitewash this. Susan B Anthony, the mother of the suffrage movement, was a man hater and extreme racist.  As expected, feminists try to whitewash the real history.  We can find audio of some of her speeches online.  In one speech, she was going mental that black men could vote but white women could not.  The reason she was so angry was that she thought blacks were less intelligent than pigs.

@USHorizon: @Frederick: @USHorizon: @Frederick: @USHorizon: Assuming Trump wins a 2nd term.. that would make the Supreme Court conservative for a long long time. Yeah, that's an interesting conjecture.  How many popular votes are you expecting him to win by? Apparently, you still have not figured out that popular votes mean NOTHING! If they did, Trump would have spent some time and money in California and New York.. and contested the massive fraud there.. and won the popular vote as well.    I guess you think you live in the United State of California. I would add that after the stupid recounts of votes were done after the election, Trump actually GAINED votes, not lost.  And Trump also picked up 5 more electoral votes because Hillary's electors flipped.  Trump had only 2 flip. What's that about massive fraud? The massive fraud in California.. in which 11 million illegal immigrants were able to vote for the first time in a presidential election.  I don't think many of them were Trump voters. Hahahahahahaha!   Oh, you're hilarious! Judging by your ever extending red line.. and my now 100 level green line.. one of us must be a moron. That reminds me.. a classic example of someone who is insane is someone who laughs for no apparent reason.

@Frederick: @spam17: @Frederick: @raphjd: This issue is one of the biggest reasons I hate Obama. He fucking lied to the people to get elected.   He promised to stop most of the GWB era programs.   The reality is that Obama ramped the shit up far beyond anyone's dream/nightmare. He promised to stop the "no bid contracts" but he still used them. Obama only hates Snowden because he proved that Obama was nothing but a fucking liar and enemy of the people. ++++ There are aspects of Obama's flip flopping that I don't like, but I kinda understand it as a political ploy to get elected. As a state level politico, he could support gay equality because the people in his area supported gay equality. To become a US Senator, he had to get the vote of the southern half of the state, so he severely backed of his support for gay equality.  Running for US president, was similar to running for the Senate. He did lie though and took credit for things he had nothing to do with.   He took credit for a group of protections that took effect on 1 Oct, which was more than a month before he was even elected. Obama also had to support gay issues.. because he not only smoked cigarettes, and cocaine in college.. he's no stranger to cock either.  In fact, I think one reason Obama didn't completely identify with his muslim upbringing is because they would not approve of his affinity for cock.   He is known to have hung around gay bars in Illinois. I thought that all that was supposed to be propaganda! Here's Obama saying he has not smoked in 6 years, because he's afraid of his wife.  6 years from 2013 would be 2007.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlvOUyVwgLE Here's Michael explaining how he and Obama convinced their "daughters" that they should not smoke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5cuGjEbm90 Michael has gone on talk shows and mentioned that Barack was still smoking after he said he quit (lied to his husband).  Here is a video about Obama continuing to smoke… (notice the super long fingers on the dude who made the video!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su17UN7ZVR4 and here is Malia smoking weed - which is a federal crime - and twerking her ass in public.  Because of this, Harvard rejected Malia for 2016, and forced her to wait a year and enroll for Fall 2017.  That means August 2017.. and I have yet to see anybody mention that Malia is currently enrolled at Harvard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVmuKmE0X3I Here's Malia being carted out of Lollapalooza 8/8/2017… 6 days ago!  having convulsions on the ground.. probably not impressing the people at Harvard much... http://www.tmz.com/2017/08/08/malia-obama-lollapalooza-carted-off/ Oh my..

@royalcrown89: I agree Adam, this forum is toxic and it looks like none of the moderators are making an honest effort to fix it. You now have users on here advocating for blowing things up; joking or not, this has gotten way out of hand and there's no one trying to get this forum into a better place than where it currently is. This is why it was removed from the site's main page. You still have constant deflection when trying to argue about very specific situations, you still have trolling going on, you still have the childish name calling; nothing has gotten better on here and it's sad. This is supposed to be the Politics & Debate forum, not the "I'm only going to defend our current president by repeatedly bringing up our past president and an irrelevant Democratic candidate" forum. The Obama and Hillary cards have expired. We have a president who is dividing our country more and more every day, and his defenders on here refuse to hold him accountable for anything. This forum is turning into a conspiracy theory safe space and it's a joke. I propose creating a conspiracy theory sub-forum and moving everything not based in reality to that sub-forum. If not, then I will be appealing higher up about this because it can't keep going on this way. Here we go again.. more threats to the group by invoking Joker.  Stirring up Godzilla didn't turn out very well for Japan.  "Riddle me this, riddle me that.. Joker isn't intimidated by any moonbat!"

@mhorndisk: At the trials, they said OMG Germany murdered 60 Million. Then that number kept getting smaller. To 6 million. To 4 million. To a few thousand. And it kept getting smaller. But the Soviet's didn't care, they murdered 100 MILLION, and the American people had NO CLUE about it, while they murdered a hundred MILLION. But now the far left has embraced their ideas, because they are stupid. Now they have their communist network under Obama and blame the Nazis, when their history proves they murdered about 100x the number of people. None of them will acknowledge that, but it's a fact. Who can even estimate that how many African people have been killed and continue to be killed in civil wars in Africa.. not to mention their own people selling others as slaves.