@bi4smooth Yeah, ok. How many black men did Kyle Rittenhouse murder in Chicago? We know which 4 outlets you got that bit of news from, even after the trial.

@raphjd But they didn't say anything - likely because he was "one of them" (a Democrat)... not that Republicans don't do the same thing (Donald Trump sound familiar?) Tribalism in politics leads to terrible things... witness current state of politics (whether you want that to be Trump or Biden doesn't matter - they're both awful)

@bi4smooth Anything you don't like is "false".

@raphjd How explicitly do I have to make it: we agree on this point. QI is bad law, and bad cops need to be dealt with. Not doing so reflects badly on ALL cops (witness current conditions).

@bi4smooth Still whing like a liberal.

These are local counties to me (Hillsborough is the county for Tampa, Pasco is the county just to the North). What happens in this video is not at all atypical, and I think what happened is what SHOULD have happened. She ran a stop sign She got pulled over & was upset -- so far perfectly normal and fine -- she got belligerent, then she got her husband involved she got even MORE belligerent & wouldn't even listen to her husband when he said she needed to calm down. ... then the shit hit the fan... The husband (a Sheriff's Deputy in the larger Hillsborough County) tries to defend his wife (with her constant goading and whining in the background) and decides to try to play a "professional courtesy" card to get her out of it... only (possibly because of the wife's behavior, possibly not) the ticketing officer says no. Had he left it there, she'd have gotten a ticket and all would be done... but noooo She continues to be belligerent - not even willing to let the Deputy say the "spiel" he's got to about options - and the husband starts in on the "professional courtesy" thing. He insists on talking to a supervisor, he really thinks escalating things is going to get him somewhere... It does... it gets him a perjury charge and a return ticket to the unemployment office. He let his wife goad him into getting him a criminal charge AND the loss of his job/career. Here's a simple rule: when you mess up, admit it and move on! My grandfather said: when you find yourself in a hole, the first step is always the same: stop digging This guy kept digging & finally hit a sewer line full of shit! And for what he did, he got the punishment he deserved. As a cop, you have my respect and my thinks for doing a job that is difficult on its BEST days! But respect and thanks is not the same as carte-blanche to break the law, or let your wife do so! You still have to follow the same laws the rest of us do! IMHO, cudos to the Pasco Sheriff's office for following up professionally, and cudos to the Hillsborough Sheriff's office for dismissing a bad egg when it was revealed.

@raphjd I confess I had to look up QI, I had no idea what that was. As far as YouTube videos on dirty law enforcement, I'm way ahead of you on that. Some of my favorite clips are off-duty police pulled over for DUI's. Watching them dancing through hoops trying to get off the hook is a guilty pleasure.

He wasn't lying though.. our government is so corrupt, and has been for a very long time

That's not true! What he said was that there weren't sufficient numbers to draw ANY significant conclusions! That's not the same as "no evidence"... not by a long-shot! Also, the shots have been shown to be SAFE in children over 6-mo in age. So let's take a step back here... a LOT of children get COVID and have only mild symptoms (e.g.: cold/flu-like symptoms)... many have no symptoms. Are you proposing that - BEFORE we allow or support the distribution of the vaccine to children, we should intentionally expose test subjects (kids) to COVID to see how many get hospitalized or die? The nut-job, conspiracy-theorists out there keep making the expectation that these vaccines (and the tests behind them) must be "miraculous" to be "worth it" - and that's just plain bullshit! MOST children didn't die from chicken-pox (they were just scarred)... but many DID die... so we developed a vaccine... one that in the later days of the 1950's and early ones of the 1960's had plenty of instances of bad side-effects. But we still vaccinated nearly all of our children! The RISK from the vaccine was worth the REWARD of healthier, better-looking (non-scarred) kids! We don't have sufficient NUMBERS yet to show whether the mRNA vaccines reduce hospitalizations or death of toddlers and infants... but we DO KNOW that they are shown to be safe, and that they generate the same immune response seen in adults. Rand Paul (an ophthalmologist, not an infectious disease expert... hell, Paul hasn't practiced since 2010! I wouldn't even see him for an eye problem now! Do you think the science of eye care hasn't changed in 12 years? He's been OUT of practice longer than he was ever IN practice!) is well aware that the medical field WILL NOT "certify" that medical treatments that work in adults will work the same way in children until a lot of data is collected to make that conclusion. They are very protective of children, and what they will approve for their treatment - far more so than for adults! So he leverages the fact that Faucci (and other NIH and CDC doctors) will "couch" their statements about children - because there isn't sufficient evidence yet - and purposefully re-casts their comments as-if they're purposefully trying to harm kids. Look, the Trump Administration's response to COVID-19 was a complete shit-show... and the Biden Administration hasn't been much (any at all?) of an improvement. So, what does that mean? It means the Presidency didn't have (and doesn't have) a lot to do with the Public Health Infrastructure's response to disease! (In other words: stop blaming Trump - or Biden - this is a Government Bureaucracy problem, not a Presidential one. Of course, that discounts the whole "inject bleach" comments Trump made, but that's a one-off...) Look - we don't have ANY PROOF that atoms exist the way Neils Bohr, Albert Einstein, or other theoretical physicists say they do... but we DO know that when you force certain kinds of uranium together with an explosive force, you get a really REALLY big explosion - which FITS their theories, but doesn't PROVE them! And we don't have any PROOF that these vaccines will protect kids from COVID-19, but we DO know that when we give them the shot, there are no new side effects, and their measurable immune responses are in-line with what we see in adults... so it FITS the theories that it will help them, but it doesn't PROVE them....

@raphjd Look! A dog peeing in grass! This is not uncommon Governmental business... he hasn't issued any new orders, just proclaimed that he COULD! It's a "threat" to try to goad the airline industry to do more to address the problems EVERYONE has been facing (in the US) with airline staff shortages (esp. flight crews!). Just an aside, so you don't think I'm anti-airline: To maintain your pilot status/rank for a specific aircraft type, you have to FLY that aircraft type a minimum number of hours per year. Failure to maintain the hours means you lose your "license" to pilot that aircraft until you re-certify (not a short, and not an inexpensive process). COVID-19 grounded a LOT of planes - some of them were "mothballed" (that is: sent to long-term storage facilities in the desert). You don't just trot out to the storage facility, gas up, and take off! There are a LOT of steps necessary to re-certify an aircraft before it can be put back into service! (not a short, and not an inexpensive process). Flight crews (pilots, co-pilots, flight attendants, etc.) are not generally staffed by stupid, untalented, UN-ambitious people! When they were furloughed by the airlines during COVID, they didn't go home and pout - they found other jobs! And a LOT of them actually found BETTER jobs! So, long story short: airlines don't have enough planes OR crew to maintain all of the routes they already have, much less add new ones... and 2022 is looking like a RECORD year for travel! OOPS! BTW: The Buttigieg statements are no better or worse than Trump's constant threats to sue people - before, during, and after his Presidency! In other words, this is a common tactic... in business, politics, government, even on the elementary school playground (if you don't do this, I won't sit with you at lunch today!)

@raphjd It is said that when Jesse James was asked why he robbed banks, his reply was "that's where the money is"... Pedophiles are naturally drawn to jobs that put them in contact (preferably in control of) children! Priests & ministers, teachers & coaches, scout & other "youth group" leaders... even police! Any position that puts the adult in close proximity to, and esp. with authority over, children! Parents must be ALWAYS vigilant when entrusting their children to the care of other adults... I was a Boy Scout leader (several positions, including Scoutmaster of a Troop, and District Training Chair on a larger scale)... the former Boy Scouts of America went a long way towards eliminating child abuse in their organization with a very simple concept - one I taught my children for years AFTER I ended my affiliation with the BSA: two deep leadership It comes down to this simple rule: There is never a good or reasonable time for 1 adult (not the parent) to be alone with 1 child. There must always be someone else within easy & direct view, if not earshot. It's not a perfect rule - it didn't eliminate all abuses, but it eliminated most of the opportunities for abuse... no opportunity, no abuse (usually)... And again, I taught my own children to follow this rule: never meet an adult alone "behind closed doors" - ask a 3rd person to join you, or decline to meet with them. And stand your ground! A person who does NOT wish to harm you will not object! My views on the punishment of this teacher are pretty gruesome... most involve a very messy death (pedophilia is not really "treatable" much less "curable" - this guy will ALWAYS be a danger to children!). But as with my abortion views shared earlier in another thread, I don't expect my own personal views to be enforced on others.... prison (life * 3 - until his corpse degrades to ashes?) will have to do!

@raphjd Assuming Roe v Wade is overturned later this summer, some 26 States will make abortion outright illegal - instantly! Some have "trigger laws" - laws that only take effect once Roe v Wade is overturned Some have already passed legislation that far exceeds the current SCOTUS rules, but are expected to be upheld. I will re-iterate my beliefs on this topic: Abortion as birth-control is barbaric and an anathema to my moral compass... "Exceptions" for rape & incest are absurd - this would be the ONLY area of law where a living being (a fetus) can be punished (with a death sentence) for the crimes of their father!! Some (many) abortions are NOT for simple birth control - there are complications (malformations, changes in the fetal and/or mother's overall health. These kinds of abortions do not offend my moral being... I believe that my views on abortion are good for me and my life I do not believe that I have the right (moral or legal) to enforce my morals onto other people. Some MAJOR RELIGIONS believe that abortion prior to "survivability" is OK - by their moral compass - and who am I to enforce my morals onto them? If it is determined that it is OK for one group to enforce their morals on other groups, be prepared when you have to start chanting prayers and smoking weed every time you cook a chicken (Rastafarianism & Santeria)! (Oh, and ALL male children MUST now be circumcised! It's a moral/religious requirement)????? Absurd... The STRENGTH of your religious belief doesn't increase (or decrease) the limits of how much you can force others to believe as you do...