Just a theory on why AI porn is so popular

[ianfontinell]

After watching a few AI series I believe it carries a lot of potential because it brings 3 key elements together:

• democratization of writing & directing opportunity
• allows for complex/expensive production design with a very minimum budget
• for once good acting is finally an option, actors seem like a legit part of the narrative

IRL porn is very expensive, shootings usually take one or two entire days for a 20-30 minutes scene, things like production value and acting are disfavored in detriment of the production cost. AI overcomes all those limitations and makes it possible to bring elements that are impossible IRL productions.

Let me know what you think, if there's anything you'd like to add.

[MrMazda]

@ianfontinell For myself, I am a little mixed on the topic. While AI can be great for creating scenes that are rather arousing to say the least, some of the AI content still appears to be AI. My mood at the time is also a huge factor on whether or not it will do it for me.

I definitely see the potential to AI though. It is possible to create scenes that are rather realistic looking on the most part, without actually having to do any kind of harm to anyone. It'll be interesting to see how the world of AI evolves over the next few years.

[ianfontinell]

@MrMazda what I'll say is a bit unrelated to this topic itself but fuck it, I'm not really sure if I want it to get as good as that, to a point where there is no practical distinction between AI and real life. I know it is inevitable, though.

We know porn is fantasy, to me AI videos and professional productions have the same potential, in the sense that they are both instantly recognizable. When AI get past this, possibly I will get anxious watching anything whatsoever. Specially if it is something that I find extremely hot and niche, I'll go "yeah it's probably just AI".

There are 2 kinds of fantasy, one that brings suspension of disbelief, you're aware that it is not real but it doesn't matter, you can still enjoy it. And there's the full believability fantasy, where you immediately assume it is real, even when it is not. Amateur porn gets to the latter more easily, but once AI overcome this, if everything look the same, it will be much harder to be easily drawn, I'll go from assuming everything I find super hot is real (as in not fabricated), to assuming everything I find hot is definitely fabricated.

[MrMazda]

@ianfontinell Yeah.. Once upon a time, it was "Oh that's totally Photoshop" but these days, it's all "Oh that's totally AI" haha

How times have changed.

[012001]

@MrMazda said:

@ianfontinell Yeah.. Once upon a time, it was "Oh that's totally Photoshop" but these days, it's all "Oh that's totally AI" haha

I am not interested in the casual set up porn, I like the "friends" and the shyness/awkwardness of real humans

However i view AI porn as an interesting novelty. I am not going to get aroused by it. But i like the out of the world scenarios and exaggeration it can bring. However I do not like the ones that fake themselves as real people - Be upfront tell us its AI, We've had drawings, 3d renders and photoshop prior to now lets not be deceitful

[eusanderse]

@ianfontinell I think with anything AI the main appeal is the limitless possibilities. You can literally make anything, as long as you have the vision for it. Want to see a hung top with double dicks solo DP-ing a bottom? Go for it! Always wanted to make realistic tentacle porn of your favourite game/anime characters? You absolutely can! Or maybe a no-gravity gay orgy on a spaceship? Hell yeah!

I have two main gripes with current AI porn. The obvious first one is the difficulty of distinguishing erect/flaccid penises, and it can get quite bad during blowjob and penetration shots. These video creation models need a lot more—and better—training data to fix this. Though, the executives on these AI companies are generally pretty prudish when it comes to sexual stuff because of how easily it gets misused, so fingers crossed for this one.

The second is continuity. I can go on and on about this, but personally the biggest perpetrator is clothes suddenly appearing and disappearing in the middle of sex, which can really take me out of it because of just how jarring it is. This is on the creator, because they could’ve been more selective (regenerate problematic scene) instead of just leaving it to stick out like a sore thumb. Doing that probably costs them more money, but hell, if they're going to monetize their content the least they can do is give people decent quality and effort (this sounds rich coming from someone mooching off a porn torrent site, I know, but my point still stands).

[ianfontinell]

@eusanderse I haven't dived deep enough to spot those continuity mistakes, but considering that a few years ago it was impossible to even have consistent characters without their traits changing completely on each scene, so I'm bit more forgiving. And you probably have noticed that continuity errors are just as frequent in professional porn and it can be just as annoying.

What you said about soft/hard dicks is very true also, one of my first observations as well, which is intriguing because I doubt the training data was comprised of just semi erections, idk you're probably more familiar with the technicalities than I am.

[eusanderse]

@ianfontinell I don’t know if you’ve watched, but let’s use codynextdoor for example. A few continuity errors off the top of my head are:

• face / body shape changing: Rick / Cody’s dad can be really buff one scene and lot less in the next one when he wears clothes. The mom looks older with short hair and when she wears the nurse outfit she’s a lot younger with longer ponytail, looking like a completely different person (but who cares about her, right? Though, poor her for having Rick as a husband. The guy is a cheating creep)
• environment: the shower scene after dodge ball game, notice how the shower stall is different each shot. Then the private sauna room, at one point the sex moved from the seat to literally on top of the hot coals Also, a bedroom scene from episode 2 suddenly adds an extra bed in front of the one Rick and Cody is on (nonsensical background is pretty common in Stable Diffusion too, because these AIs can’t actually think)

Probably just being too nitpicky with those and they don’t bother me as much as appearing/disappearing clothes, but they’re fun to notice.
I won’t say I’m that knowledged, but I assume for video generation models they must've fed actual porn footages into the training data considering how good the close up penetration scenes are, but not enough to get the erections consistent. To be fair, a lot of image generation models also struggle with getting erect cock to look right without the help of LORAs, and those are always made by the open sourced community like Civitai, not the company who made the models.