Ukraine to replace itself with Africans, Latin druggies, Asians
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@raphjd And once again, your so-called "race neutral" anti-immigrant rhetoric is just strawmanning whatever I said. Where did I say I support people hanging each other, or whatever the fuck you said? Like, not all immigrants are of muslim or whatever descent you're implying, and even if they were, I don't have to agree with anybody's beliefs to call you on your bs.
The problem here is the stereotyping you're engaging in, putting all immigrants on a box, like they're all bad by default and acting like it's not to do with their ethnicity. You brought up rape and being homophobic homophobic, when homophobes and rapists are all around the globe, and it really isn't the gotcha you think it is. Catholics do that shit too, buddy. Anybody has the potential to do those things, it's not a race thing. Me calling you on your garbage doesn't make me a rape supporter lmao
The problem here is saying shit like "Latin druggies" and painting this picture that every single Latin immigrant is a rapist and a drug addict, and then going back on it and say "I'm not racist tho" that is the issue here. We have over the triple the volume of immigrants where I live (legal or otherwise) and we never experienced a "rape outrage". Unless every single immigrant rapist was sealed and shipped to the UK and nowhere else, I really don't see your point.
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@blablarg18 Look, I'm not saying screening is evil in principle. But this alarmism is brand new. Crime statistics didn't suddenly spike, the political attention to immigrant crime did. So when someone says 'we just want to screen people,' I have to ask: why now? What changed? Because the answer to that question is usually less about crime data and more about which immigrants we're talking about. That's where the 'colorblind' framing stops holding up.
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Of course, not all illegals are muslims. DUH!!!!
Come to the UK and Europe, then you will really see the problem with the muslim invasion by illegals.
The US has a problem with Latin invaders, thanks to Biden and the party you worship.
Where you live is probably some leftist shithole where it's a social crime to talk about crimes other than those committed by CIS white men.
It's comical how you leftist clowns virtue-signaled like crazy, about how much you love illegals, until you started getting some, and then you started whining.
Maybe you should stop watching leftist media, because they never tell the truth and they are extremely biased. How many times has the BBC been caught in lies? The same with CBC, ABC, and other versions of the BBC.
Another comical thing is how leftists claim white men are the greatest threat to society, while you spread your legs to get boned by white men. Ilhan Omar, Don Lemon, and many others are getting fucked by white men while spewing hate at white men.
We also have the issue of your media personalities being extreme hypocrites. Joy Reid, for example, made countless racist and homophobic posts, then lied about it. She even got the FBI involved before being forced to admit she lied and that those really were her posts. You clowns still believe her when she spews some stupid shit.
Let's not forget that we now know that virtually everything said about Trump since he came down the golden escalator in May 2015 was a fucking lie. Sadly, you guys are still lying about him.
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@raphjd The other good reason to oppose migration is: Democracy.
Most often, vast numbers of migrants are shoved into villages & nations who never voted on it.
Cynics would say, ordinary peeps are being demoralized on purpose....... Lib-Bureaucrat class preaches "democracy" loud af, then goes, Fuck you, Fuck you common people, just look what we can do to u with young male rapist-terrorist migrants.
Cynics
The 2 GOOD reasons to oppose migration are
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Screening issue
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Democracy issue. No one voted for it......... .......especially not Ukraine. (no national election there since 2019, dictator Zelensky on year 7 of his 5-year term)
But Ukraine Azov fighters beloved by Lib-Bureaucrat class, pick worst reason no one should ever pick, 3. Race issue.......... facepalm moment
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@raphjd I'm not a leftist, tho lmao
I feel like you're just using the framing of "person holding an opinion I don't like, therefore leftist", which.... Seems about right when you don't really wanna think for yourself, I suppose.
And my point still stands, nobody non-racist says "you and your ilk". At best you're being bigoted, when using the term. Doesn't really matter what the context is, 99% of the time.
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@raphjd I worship no party. Again, just because I'm disagreeing with you, doesn't mean I automatically like the opposing party. That's the problem with people nowadays: they treat politics discussion like it's soccer/football teams. "No. my team is better! My team has the best players and won last year!"
That's not what this is about, bro.
My main problem is with how things were said. You never, until this very moment, specified "illegals" as the problem. And I don't think making policies that makes legal migration harder is gonna change that. All it does IS make people not want to follow the rules, and "invade" your country, as you put it.
If I'm willing to pirate a movie, making it harder to access said movie isn't gonna disincentivize me from pirating the next one. It's just logical. People are always gonna find a way to do what they want/need to do to survive. In making migration harder, all you're doing is giving criminals more power to get people inside a given country illegally.
The problem with ICE and such institutions is that they don't check everyone's background before deporting them. They just assume that, if you're a Latin person, you shouldn't be there. THAT's the problem here. You saying "Latin and Africans immigrants are criminals" is not only unsubstatiated, but also harmful to people who are of that descent and have migrated legally.
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@blablarg18 "Voting" for what? To decide if people have the right to make an honest living if they go through the relevant procedures to migrate?
That's like if the whole kitchen had to decide if they would serve a customer on McDonald's before serving them... It's just wasted time. Villages are often the target for migration, because the cost of living is usually lower than a big city's. It's just common sense. Most people are going into a country because they can't live well in theirs, more often than not.
Making the average person vote is not only slow and resource-draining, but also the purpose of the screening IS filtering people to allocate them somewhere they would be a better fit if necessary in the first place. That's the whole point of procedure and the documentation they ask of you. The whole procedure was made so that you WOULDN'T have to vote. That's why it's standardized. No one voted on tax rates, foreign aid, or trade deals either. That's what electing representatives is for.
It's for that reason that that I really do believe it's a race thing. You guys don't know anything about immigration and are just parroting what you see online, without actually thinking about what you're saying, or at least bothering to investigate things further.
And again, you guys brought race and descent into this in the first place. If it was so color-blind as you claim, the title of the thread wouldn't be literally "Ukraine to replace itself with Africans, Latin druggies, Asians". Nor would you guys be defending yourself every post with a variant of "I'm not racist, I swear", or using terms like "you and your ilk".
You just like generalizing people, using migration (a topic that you're clearly not familiar with) and "democracy" as an excuse, without actually wanting to engage in meaningful conversation.
You just want to really say "I am uncomfortable with any kind Mexican or black people around me", but that doesn't fly with most, so you're clinging onto this "it's definitely not a race thing guys!! [skull emoji] [facepalm emoji] Wow, libtards, amirite?" It's that kind of stance that I cannot tolerate, regardless of if the person disagrees with me or not. If you don't want immigrants, at least be honest about why that is, and stop turning the word "democracy" into another buzzword.
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@blablarg18 Bro there are more parties and directions than left or right. Libertarians, Christian Democrats, Nationalists, Greens... None of these map cleanly onto left/right. Reading a history book might help you figure that one out, but I think you get the point.
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@raphjd I'm not a leftist, tho lmao
I feel like you're just using the framing of "person holding an opinion I don't like, therefore leftist", which.... Seems about right when you don't really wanna think for yourself, I suppose.
And my point still stands, nobody non-racist says "you and your ilk". At best you're being bigoted, when using the term. Doesn't really matter what the context is, 99% of the time.
You talk like a leftist. I wouldn't be surprised if you had multi-colored hair and a nose ring.
I think for myself, which is why I can be gay and not think as part of the hivemind.
Funny, I was racist a minute ago, now I'm just a bigot.
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So, every time someone new jumps into the covnersation, you demand we throw in every caveat for everything we believe.
If you paid attention, you'd know we don't have any issue with LEGAL immigration. It's been said countless times in various threads.
You are basing your ICE views based on leftist media. They aren't targeting just non-whites. Also, over 2/3rds of ICE is non-white, with the majority being hispanic.
I wouldn't doubt that you still believe the lie that the little girl (toddler) with her mom and the border patrol, was taken away from her mom. I know, I know, you media told you that lie. They also didn't tell you the first part of the story that the mom was well off but wanted to come to the US so she left her entire family behind and tried to sneak into the US. She got caught and was sent back. She was told that if she brought her toddler, ICE would let her stay. Didn't work. Mother and daughter were deported. That was under Trump 45.
More recently, under Trump 47, a similar thing happened. The leftist media claimed that ICE took a little boy from his dad. Of course, that was a total lie. The dad fled, leaving the kid so ICE had to take the kid into their care until CPS could take him.
There are countless examples of the leftist media lying.
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@blablarg18 Bro there are more parties and directions than left or right. Libertarians, Christian Democrats, Nationalists, Greens... None of these map cleanly onto left/right. Reading a history book might help you figure that one out, but I think you get the point.
The political spectrum is a left/right thing. It's like gender.
Every political belief falls somewhere between extreme left and extreme right.
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@raphjd Left-Right is terms from French Revolution. If u trace it back there, it gets simple fast.
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Far Left - says Christians MUST be killed now, especially orthodox ones (Catholic in West, Orthodox in Russia) so that we can engineer "New Man". Pol Pot, Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Spanish Republicans, Ho Chi Minh - all took great pleasure in rape, slaughter & execution of nuns & priests.
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Left - I'll finance Far Left & wink at them.
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Center - Propaganda trick of Far Left. "I'm moderate and even I agree that.......[latest Far Left position]"
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Right - I honestly don't care if Christians are killed. I guess they can live. Maybe.
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Far Right - says, No don't kill orthodox & believing Christians, you sick assholes.
Issues of race, sex & class are window dressing. Nazis were SOCIALIST & Far Left, like Bolsheviks. Nazis made a few pro-Christian speeches to get power, then went full pagan-secular-satanist & put strongest Christian believers in concentration camps - alongside Gypsies, Gays, mental defectives, & working-class Jews, means Jews who were not 'connected' like young George Soros was connected..
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