upload ratio help

[frostycab]

@cp2000 LOL Glad it's working out for you. Care to share your up/down totals since you got it? What is it now, about 3 weeks ago?

[thor9023]

Peers and seeds is one of the concepts I understand shockingly
this is my current DL and UL on my client, this is not all of it I just moved from a different client to this one

[frostycab]

@thor9023 The problem here is that you keep giving us only part of the information at a time, so it's really hard to say much. Those numbers could be awful or could be great, but what timeframe do they cover? Do you have traffic running on any other trackers through the same client, or even a different client running alongside that one? What speed is your internet supposed to run at, both up and down, and what speeds do you actually get if you run a speedtest? There are so many factors that play into torrenting.

I've got a 500Mbps internet connection. I just ran a speed test and got 50Mbps upload speed. At this precise moment my client is uploading at 4.2MBps (Note MB vs Mb as the client I use is reporting bytes, not bits.) The thing is by the time I finish this sentence it will probably read 400KBps, and then perhaps 2.8MBps at the end of this post. It's not stable, and varies second by second as different peers make requests to my client.

That's why it's more helpful to look at the individual figures on each torrent, especially if you're using multiple sites and trackers because that total figure is everything combined. Just to give you some idea, I tend to upload roughly 10 times as much data to gay-torrents.net as I do here even though I'm often competing with more seeders, and I have no idea why, but that means my total up/down isn't a fair representation of my performance here. You need to look specifically at the torrents on this tracker and see if they have any peers, and also if you're competing with 100 other seeders who might have better connections and therefore be treated preferentially by the swarm. As @Kekkaishi said, it's about offering the right material at the right time. I've got some torrents running that were added to the site years ago, and as such aren't in demand because everyone who might want them already has them.

Sorry if that's all a bit condescending, but I have no idea what your level of competence is so it's simpler to just state the basics.

What was the question again?

[A Former User]

welp i hope i don't sound that much of an asshole when it's me giving the condescending bit

@thor9023 when you are seeding, your max speed is only a tiny bit of the equation, the person downloading from you are often splitting their traffic throughout multiple connections with several other peers, for you to seed/download at very high speeds you need to be lucky to connect to someone with a matching bandwidth.

Having hundreds or thousands of active torrents sure increases your odds of eventually seeding a small portion of them to others, but realistically it depends a lot on another simple concept: demand.

I'll take myself as an example. My ratio have been very consistent, sitting around 1. Because I don't really care for increasing my ratio, I don't want to use my own storage as a CDN for other people, storing a huge amount of porn that I don't like and will never wank to. I only download what has use to me.

What that means: most of what I download is what I search for, more often than not it is old stuff that have been on the site for years. There rarely is demand for those torrents. If you download an old torrent, you can expect to never help seed it at all, the odds of someone downloading are very low, and if it happens it could be in a moment when you're not even online to help.

In simple terms, whenever I download something that is not freeleech, I am aware that I will most likely never recover the downloaded bytes through seeding those torrents. Instead, most of the upload credit I get is from:

1 freeleeched torrents
2 self-uploaded torrents

So if you are on a run to increase your ratio, you must start to download only torrents with high activity. Those are torrents uploaded recently or that went on freeleech mode.

This is some sort of gambling, because there will never be any guarantee that you will seed anything you download. Often times people hurt their ratio attempting to download massive torrents only because they have high activity. Not wise... Instead, focus on downloading only a small portion of those massive torrents, you'll still be able to help seed while having a lower chance of ending in ratio debt.

[thor9023]

@frostycab I appreciate your help This is my first time talking in the Forums since I haven't taken this seriously until now, I'm sorry for the partial information.
This client that I am running I started 4/13 so 3 days ago, I moved over some completed torrents from another VM I had a few test runs getting things to work smoother.
The picture above 472GiB DL and 43GiB UL is for the 3 days running in the new organized client. My internet speed is around 700Mbps down and 30Mbps up when I'm not running anything. I do have torrents running from https://www.gay-torrents.net and I'm having a hard time separating them by the trackers cause it seams like they all fall under the same tracker.

@IANFONTINELL 0 thank you for the insight

[thor9023]

little update I started up a seed box and it seams like Im only getting the upload credit from the seed box only and not on my own local torrent sever.
I'd like to be a lot closer to 1.0 ratio (now at .660) and give back to the community without donating more than I already have. I need to upload 997GB to get to my required .8 ratio

I don't know how but I was able to DL more even after my DLs where restricted and I got deeper in the hole then I expected.

[frostycab]

@thor9023 No worries. I think @ianfontinell-0 has given a much better explanation than I can, especially as I start to waffle when I really try to get my teeth into things. LOL

As for being able to organise you torrents (including by tracker) I've found BiglyBT to be a great client. I've set mine up so that each torrent is automatically loaded and tagged with the relevant tracker straight from my Windows download folder. Anything I grab from the various porn trackers gets a "Porn" tag as well.

When the downloads finish they automatically get moved to a folder specifically for seeding, while also auto-copying themselves to a folder on my long-term storage drives for eventual sorting into my library. That way I can delete things that I don't want to keep while still leaving them to seed for a week or 3 in the client.

When The download drive fills up I just go through my client and remove anything that has lots of seeders and isn't showing much activity at my end. That way I'm keeping the most profitable(?) torrents running while getting rid of the chaff that doesn't benefit me at all.

[thor9023]

@frostycab That is my ultimate goal to be honest, although I was going to set that up with CRON jobs and such. Only difference though I don't run windows all my torrent clients are running in Docker on my severs.
I'm now seeing the seed box sever I have is uploading from like 3MiB/s to 20MiB/s nice speeds nothing I was able to get on my home sever with over 200 completed torrents.

[frostycab]

@thor9023 If you target the right type of torrents with your seedbox your ratio will soar, trust me.

As often as you can, look through the recently uploaded torrents on the site and grab the ones with only 1 seeder and at least 10 leechers. Don't worry about whether or not it's anything you want personally, because you're only concerned with ratio. The bigger the better when it comes to download size! If you've grabbed a seedbox with a decent line speed you'll download to 100% way ahead of anyone else, while also being right at the front of the queue when it comes to being an attractive uploader.

Another thing you can do once you start the torrents is to just have a quick peek at the swarm for each one to see how much anyone else already has. If you swarm is full of people who already have 80 or 90% of the total then maybe it's not worth bothering with. You want to hit the ones where you have little to no competition.

To be honest it's been so long since I had a seedbox that I can't really remember, but I reckon if you stick to that method you'll have your 996GB within days.

[frostycab]

To clarify the reasoning in my method look at this:

The fourth torrent down is a prime target for a seedbox. Only 1 seeder and 77 leechers. If they were all to grab to whole thing from your seedbox that would be approaching 20TB! Obviously they won't all grab the whole thing from you, but getting in on this early (It's only about 30 hours old) you set yourself up for a huge amount of potential upload traffic.

The first one doesn't look too bad either, but given that it's 10 days old now you might find that while nobody has snatched the whole thing yet they might have most of it, so that one I'd check the swarm on to see if it's worth keeping it going. (In this case it's freeleech anyway so if you can grab a good chunk before the freeleech ends then you're still going to benefit.)

[thor9023]

@frostycab I hope it will take a few days I only have 40 days left to get my ratio to 0.8 I'm scared because my account is 10 years old and I can't donate $150. I already donated $100 and used like 600 seed bonus points

I still don't know how I was able to download a non free-leach torrent when I was restricted seams unfair, the restriction said I would be unable to download anything but free-leach. My bad for trusting it I guess.

[frostycab]

@thor9023 Maybe you started a freeleech torrent and the freeleech ran out before you finished. Any part of it after the FL ends counts against you the same as it does with any other torrent.

Anyway, keep us updated. I'd be interested to hear how you're doing every couple of days to see how it work out for you. I'm sure we'll all do what we can to help if you haven't got your technique quite right.

[thor9023]

@frostycab I uploaded 50 Gbs in 3 the 3 hours I had the seed box running so it is looking good.
total upload is 75gb but only 50 gb are registered on GT

[thor9023]

oh can't delete or edit posts

I uploaded 50 Gbs in the 3 hours I had the seed box running so it is looking good.
total upload is 75gb but only 50 gb are registered on GT

[cp2000]

Seedbox is the key....

ive been a member since 2008 plagued with different connections sometimes fast sometimes slow.... seeding was a huge issue for me.

dudeman suggested the seedbox which i had never even heard of till i was in this forum.

I went from ALWAYS below ratio struggling to keep up - donating plenty to boost myself.

post seedbox im cruising.... i went from below to now this...

Its the only way todo it imo. And it makes the download to my home pc incredibly fast - sheilds my original download ip as well.

Note - i will still plan on donating occasionally because they do a phenomenal job running this site.

[cp2000]

@cp2000 before seedbox i was about even at 9tb up and down. Trying to stay in good graces... but my speed wasnt the best. so just in half a month ive been able to download 4tb of stuff ive wanted and new stuff and boost my collection - a lot of past stuff i wanted for ages.

Seedbox will fix it. do it

[thor9023]

@cp2000 I've been running a seed box for about 5 hours now have about 90 gb registered uploaded so I should be at 1.0 ratio in a few days best $5 I have ever spent LOL

[cp2000]

@thor9023 Bravo... i know the struggle dude it was tough before seedbox.

[thor9023]

@cp2000 I can't even remember how I did it back in 2015 when I joined LOL
I know I donated a lot.

[A Former User]

@thor9023 donating in exchange for upload credit is worth it when you have a new account with very low traffic. Once your numbers go insanely high like several terabytes, it is no longer viable to donate for upload credit because it will barely add to your ratio.

Now do as others have advised you, use the seedbox wisely: look for recent torrents with more leechers than seeders, and if those are not available focus on recent torrents with the least seeders. Don't forget to check the freeelech list periodically and make sure to grab all the big collections.