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    USA polls don't mean shit, either way. Here's why.

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      blablarg18
      last edited by blablarg18

      "Democrats fear pollsters are undercounting Trump"

      https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4891637-democratic-lawmakers-worry-pollsters/

      Penny drops.

      “Polling has really been seriously damaged since 2016. And that’s one of the truths, is that Trump is going to be tough in Pennsylvania, and that’s absolutely the truth,” Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) said when asked whether he’s worried pollsters may be undercounting Trump’s support in his home state.

      Dems need to cheat.

      Public / media polls - that WAY exaggerate libs - are there to cover Dem cheat, make cheat look halfway plausible.

      Dems internal polls, show President Trump ahead.

      What if GA, PA or AZ changes rules & Dems can't cheat enough?

      Or what if Muslims counter-act Haitians & deliver MI to Trump?

      Dems can't sleep.

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        blablarg18
        last edited by blablarg18

        Example 10 million, where "internal polling" is different from public poll.

        "MI Dem Senate Candidate Warns Internal Polling Shows Kamala ‘Underwater’ In State"

        https://www.dailywire.com/news/mi-dem-senate-candidate-warns-internal-polling-shows-kamala-underwater-in-state

        Kids, why would internal differ from public? Ever?

        You know why.

        Because public is faked, to give Dem better headlines.

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          blablarg18
          last edited by blablarg18

          Reliable polls have Trump +6 on "not recalled" data.

          What is "recalled" data? When they add in 2020 Dem cheat factor.

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          It's all about 2024 Dem cheat factor..... will it be bigger? smaller? same?

          In 2016, Dems cheated BUT not enough, so President Trump got through.

          USA Regime thought, it's all good, their "Russia Russia Russia" hoax "insurance policy" will force Trump to resign, followed by, say, Pence-McCain dependent on Regime.

          But it didnt turn out. So in 2020 they cheated bigger, enough to see, made USA worldwide joke.

          In 2024 they turn to assassination. 2 attempts - that we know of. More to come.

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            blablarg18
            last edited by blablarg18

            Scorecard below is probably self-interested, since Atlas made it.

            Still, Atlas made it with.... you know.... -data-.

            And for years, Rasmussen has been more accurate than the rest.

            It makes sense, to see Rasmussen in Top 2 spot. & NYT down

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              blablarg18
              last edited by blablarg18

              Plouffe admits, Kamabla was never ahead.

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              He admits public & "internal" polls are different.

              But he still pretends that WHY, is mystery.

              Smart people know WHY. (see earlier comments)

              Kamabla lost, because "Late Night Ballot Dumps", of Dem 2020 cheat, did not show up for her.

              Why "Late Night Ballot Dumps" did not show up for her, in 2024, is the interesting question.

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                lololulu19
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                one relief is that 4 years from now.. we don't have to pay attention to this stupid polls.. and the so-called experts who said that Kam-bama would not only win, but win in a landslide have been discredited.

                On the departure front... looks like we might be rid of Degeneres, Deniro, Springstein, and maybe Oprah. It would be nice to be done with Streisand too. Reiner will never leave the mental hospital.

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                  blablarg18 @lololulu19
                  last edited by blablarg18

                  @lololulu19 Don't count on it.

                  Even now, in another thread, someone says, Only believe the experts.

                  Lib is a religion, and "discredited" is in eye of beholder.


                  btw.... I wondered if you were joking about poor Rob.... but you're real:

                  https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/11/anti-trump-filmmaker-rob-reiner-has-checked-himself-into-a-facility-following-the-2024-election/

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                    blablarg18
                    last edited by blablarg18

                    "Gold standard" Iowa pollster lets slip, polls can be fake. J Ann Selzer

                    video - https://x.com/i/status/1868144823909110057

                    She denies wrongdoing, BUT, she lets out:

                    the idea that I intentionally set up to deliver this [krazy-bad poll] when I've never done that before, I've had plenty of opportunities to do it.

                    Opportunities for what, Ann?

                    @zullu & @jaroonn cited her Iowa poll, in https://community.gaytor.rent/topic/66338/breaking-harris-has-overtaken-trump-in-michigan/

                    She was 17 points off.

                    Some coverage in November, claimed

                    • she planned to retire
                    • she took a large payout from some lib. Kamabla campaign? I forget

                    Hypothetically, why might Kamabla pay her to do bad poll?

                    1. if "Dem cheat" had showed up - ballot dumps, late at night, mysterious, 2020-style - then her poll would have been "correct" 🙄

                    2. in any case, her poll gave Kamabla last-minute (but undeserved) boost of morale & headlines. Boost one side, suppress other side.


                    here at 7:04, MSNBC admits she was 17 points off.

                    https://x.com/i/status/1854226911247139255

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                      blablarg18
                      last edited by blablarg18

                      Trump sues Selzer. Says her GIGANTIC miss, “was no ‘miss’ but rather an attempt to influence the outcome of the 2024 presidential election” by projecting “a false narrative of inevitability” about Kamabla.

                      https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5051334-trump-lawsuit-pollster-selzer/

                      Even if Trump loses case: If case makes pollsters think twice, makes pollsters be accurate, lets ordinary people know truth, makes ordinary people question sooner & louder why their side loses.............Democracy wins!!

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                        vmalar
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                        That's why you should put your trust on people that put money on their bet/voice. polymarket

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