Ukraine 'counteroffensive' a failure

[serenity]

@raphjd The EU countries have or will have stopped buying gas from Russia.
I have heard stories about pro-nazi crap in Ukraine, but I have seen more pro-nazi crap from Russia. And thats from both the bottom and the top of the country. I am sure that you have heard about that, since you don't live under a rock, at least I hope so.

[serenity]

@blablarg18 There is one side, that a bigger country thinks that it has the right to dictate, what the smaller neighbouring country must do. This has been so thoughout history. That doesn't make it right.
Furthermore Ukraine was not going to be part of NATO, it is a lie from Rusland. NATO does not accept countries in war or countries that have border disputes. Ukraine had both, and Rusland clearly knew that.

[blablarg18]

@serenity "That doesn't make it right." - And I never said it did.

I said it's a conflict of Evil vs. Evil.

"Ukraine was not going to be part of NATO" - Oh yes it was. In the ambitions of UK-USA, that is.

We agree, UK-USA -had said- "Ukraine was not going to be part of NATO" - as they said also for Poland, the Baltics, the Nordics too, the Balkans - then broke all those promises, & in Ukraine, did a pro-NATO coup (Maidan) & civil war against Ukraine's own citizens (Donbas).

There's video somewhere - they scrub it whenever possible - of McCain & Lindsey Graham in Ukraine, cavorting with Azov Nazis in military gear, say "we're going on the offensive next year" against Russia........... video when McCain was alive, had to be mid-2010s.

Again they scrub it, hide it from us peasants - but you think Putin didn't see it?

You seriously think UK-USA War Complex haven't planned to make war with Russia, started in Ukraine, for years? At least since 2014 & prob longer?

We know from their actions, plus leaked statements.

Russia saw it coming for years, moved first, dug in well...... oh boo-hoo, boo-hoo for UK-USA empire.

(Genuine tears, tho, for all the Russia & Ukraine losses of life.)

You expect Russia to buy UK-USA Evil Empire promises - that UK-USA already broke - in front of Russia's face.

I don't. Am more of a realist.

Suppose ur bf cheats day after day - and you catch him day after day - and he goes "I never meant to cheat! That's a lie from Russia! I'm not a cheater!" - right as the latest guy goes "Uhhh!" shoots load in ur bf's ass - would u believe him?

[blablarg18]

PS. "The EU countries have or will have stopped buying gas from Russia." - Nope!

Here's a map of the pipelines.

At least some are alive & well - TurkStream comes to mind.

USA-Ukraine did, of course, commit a NATO Article 5 violation on Germany - an act of war against Germany! - in 2022 when USA-Ukraine destroyed Nordstream 2.

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PPS. "I have seen more pro-nazi crap from Russia" - I don't believe that for one second.

I mean, maybe you literally saw it but it was made-up?
garbage on a CIA Mockingbird (look it up) blog?

Here is nations with top 5 WW2 losses.

Russia lost people on a scale the rest of us can't imagine.

A chunk of losses filed under "USSR" were, btw, Ukraine lives.... as Ukrainians fought in WW2 TO HELP GERMANY / NAZIS, against Russia / Stalin who were a UK-USA ally.

Ukraine has a looooooong Nazi history. Because of evil Stalin's evil Holodomor, you can't entirely blame them.

But Russia fight against Nazis, and Russia saying "Sorry our Ukraine brothers, we will NOT let you go Nazi or remain Nazi" - is ingrained in Russia national identity - to this day.

Russia sees the present conflict as an extension of WW2 - Russia still fighting Ukraine Nazis backed by Germany - only with UK-USA having sadly changed sides.

[blablarg18]

So, back to headline topic... just let people see (if they want to see) real direction of this sad war.... here is another tidbit.

[lololulu19]

@raphjd I was not aware of this until a few days ago.. but there is STILL fighting going on between factions of Ukrainians. Kind of like in the Indian wars in the USA, while the USA was battling the indians, the various indian tribes were battling each OTHER. There were roughly 100 different tribes of indians in the USA.

I wonder if people consider that whenever a country gives another country their weapons, they are also giving away the technology? Every weapons system and missile used in a war has the risk of being captured and reverse engineered by the enemy. Some examples are that Iran got a pristine sample of our most advanced drone thanks to Obama. Pakistan got our stealth helicopter technology - again thanks to Barry. China has one of our stealth fighters in perfect condition.
Where is all the fuel, food, and personnel coming from to sustain this war? Those planes and missiles have to take off and land somewhere. Supposedly it takes 16 hours to service an F16 for every hour they fly.
How can any ship - merchant or military - avoid being crippled or sunk by these new drones?
Conventional warfare is becoming obsolete - which inevitably brings us to NUCLEAR war.

[blablarg18]

Poland president explains how Ukraine is like "drowning person" and Poland must not be drowned / must look after Poland's interests.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1704676032391823711

Poland PM says no more arms for Ukraine:

https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/09/21/poland-no-longer-providing-weapons-to-ukraine-announces-prime-minister/

“We have stopped providing weapons to Ukraine because we are now arming Poland...We will definitely maintain the transit of Ukrainian goods [as] we make money from it.”

@jaroonn

[blablarg18]

@serenity yes Germany buys Russia gas: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-21/germany-faces-criticism-over-sefe-s-renewed-lng-trade-with-russia

They send it around different companies, maybe India (murky details) to evade sanctions & pretend they don't.

[blablarg18]

Back on Poland - views Ukraine as "drowning man" - Poland confirms that missile attack in 2022 was by Ukraine.

https://news.yahoo.com/media-polish-investigation-concludes-ukrainian-103442754.html

According to Rzeczpospolita's sources, Polish experts of the country's Prosecutor's Office have "categorically" denied the possibility that Russia launched the missile. They have allegedly identified the projectile as an S-300 5-W-55 anti-air missile launched from Ukraine's territory.

Remember, NAFO / "Winston Churchill" LARPers tried to say Russia & trigger NATO Article 5, that is, trigger nuclear WW3.

[MrMazda]

The more I discover through the little bits that do make it past the Canadian media censorship that goes on, the more I'm seeing that this song will become a reality in the next few years

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