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    • bi4smoothB Offline
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      @raphjd said in (CA) Gov Newsome vetoed Cal Grant expansion bill:

      @bi4smooth

      And there you are, always defending the DNC and liberal causes, while claiming to be a conservative.

      The US and UK have the problem if it's better to be from somewhere else than your own country when it comes to getting welfare.

      Scotland couldn't find enough homes for the homeless that they already has but found 2,000 homes for the Syrians they imported. Now we are seeing the same thing with the Afghanis.

      It's like how New York spends just over 1% of what they spend on illegals, on 1st Responders and military and their families.

      It's how you most revered Fauci, makes rules for us, but not for illegals.

      You claim these are LIBERAL caused problems (inequities in spending on illegals vs locals) - yet most of those spending ratios were put in place when Conservatives were in power - and that's true in the UK as well as the US!

      Your NY numbers are bogus by the way: they count ALL public health & public assistance money as money "spent on illegals", even though only a fraction of that money is spent on healthcare for illegals. The REAL shame is that some of these first responders - esp teaches - fit into BOTH categories: first responders who ALSO qualify for public assistance, like Food Stamps... that is SHAMEFUL! And BOTH parties are to BLAME for it, because it didn't START with one - both parties have been in power long enough to fix it at some point in the past 40 years!

      NOTE: Healthcare is an issue where I am personally, admittedly, liberal: I believe that BASIC healthcare (wellness visits, recovery from serious illness/injury, vaccinations, etc) is a basic human right and not a privilege of and for the wealthy.

      Back to our topic here though: Here in the US, the Biden Admin has been UNSUCCESSFUL at passing any MAJOR legislation, save for extra COVID relief! Zip! NADA! NIL! Thankfully, it has turned out SOME of their "moderate" members aren't willing to just throw almost $6T of federal money (debt) out the window and believe it'll solve everything! And their margins are so slim, without those 2 Senators, their massive spending bills are DEAD ON ARRIVAL!

      Minority? maybe so, but their majorities are so slim, they have to appease their "moderates" and most left-wing "radicals" at the same time... good luck with that! Herding cats comes to mind! LOL Mind you, NO Republican will vote for ANY of these things - because in today's political climate, you can't vote for something - whether actually good or not - if it might make the other party "look good"... FUCK making the Country look or actually get better... if the "other guys" will get credit (not blame), then you cannot vote for it! Witness this debt ceiling bullshit!

      As for your favorite Boogey-Man Fauci, what policy has he ever made that was for Americans but not Illegals?

      • He doesn't actually MAKE policy, he recommends policy
      • He makes recommendations to our politicians about public health policy - not immigration policy
      • Politicians get/have to MAKE the policy... as we've seen from the Trump years, they don't always take the recommendations of the experts!
      • Public Health policy (at least in the US) gets applied to everyone. There are no separate rules for vaccinating illegals or legals. There are no separate rules for wearing masks if you're illegal or legal. There are no public health policies about treating illegals, but not legals, when they get COVID.

      Finally, you are in Scotland... unless your Parliament has done something REALLY strange, and somehow both seceded from the UK (something many ARE LITERALLY trying to do), and joined the US (not possible without approval from the US Congress - i honestly don't think we'd "take you"... no offense...), then Fauci hasn't made a SINGLE RULE for you, and NOTHING the DNC (much less the RNC) has done in the past 40 years has affected YOU , NOW (currently)!

      On behalf of the ENTIRE US Population: thank you for your concern: but butt-out... we've got it managed, thanks! Focus on your own piles of shit over there, thank you very much! Your "us" and the "Royal we" are clearly misplaced! We don't even HAVE Royals (no, not even Trump! We voted that "would-be-King" out, remember?)
      [Sarcasm: off] LOL

      Again, though: I'm not FOR any Democrat being in power - but I'm not going to blame them for my dog dying and the lunar eclipse just because my political opponents are currently in-power, albeit by the slimmest of margins!

      I am actually ENJOYING the Dem's vapid attempts to "fix everything once they get into power"... it's all well and good to claim your policies are better, and deride the policies of "the idiots in power" when you are the truly powerless "minority opposition"... it's another thing entirely when you have to ACTUALLY GOVERN yourself! Your wacko pie-in-the-sky policies DO NOT actually turn smog into cotton candy when ACTUALLY put into place! And those "deplorable" immigration policies aren't so awful when you're the one having to deal with the massive inflow of immigrants at the borders!

      Be that as it may, I also recognize that the worse they do, the worse things will be for us when we regain power (in 2022 in Congress? Let's PRAY Trump doesn't ruin that!)... and the harder that will make it for US to "fix everything that's wrong once we're back in power"...

      My point is, though: If you claimed Hitler and Musselini were pedophiles who ate their prey: Jewish children, for dessert every night... I would say "NO, you 're making that up" - not because I support fascism (I do not - witness my opposition to Trump), but because I value TRUTH above making up ridiculous lies about my opponents! I want to win political arguments based on the MERITS of my positions, not based on lies made up about the opposition!

      Funny thing: sometimes I learn that way - and sometimes I'm convinced that the other guy has a better plan or idea than me! I'm not above being wrong... you should ty it sometime... learning new things (instead of defending old things) is sometimes good!

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        @bi4smooth

        Umm, go back and look at the thread I started about NY.

        Illegals get money for a wide range of things.

        The head of the NY House of Reps said something like "I wish there was more money, but we ran out" when explaining why, after giving tons of cast for illegals, they cut the money spent on 1st Responders, the military, and their families. This includes those injured in the line of duty.

        Stop being Fauci's bitch. He has more power than you are willing to admit.

        Your guy, Honest Joe, is clearly Fauci's bitch, just like you are. You voted for the POS loser in office.

        LOL, the old "Trump is a fascist because Rachel "Mad Cow" Maddow and CNN said so.

        BTW, Honest Joe, according to his own words, is a fascist dictator. I know he was trying to slag off Trump, but he did far more EOs than Trump or any other President in history.

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          Something happened to the previous post that is preventing me from adding more to it.

          ANyway, you dumb ass, I am an American (and UK national) so what happens in the US is my business.

          It's, even more, my business since I still pay US taxes.

          So fuck off and go back to snortching Pelosi's crusty old vag.

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            @raphjd said in (CA) Gov Newsome vetoed Cal Grant expansion bill:

            Something happened to the previous post that is preventing me from adding more to it.

            ANyway, you dumb ass, I am an American (and UK national) so what happens in the US is my business.

            It's, even more, my business since I still pay US taxes.

            So fuck off and go back to snortching Pelosi's crusty old vag.

            Actually, you have your own post wrong... THIS thread stared out with you confusedly DECRYING the fact that Cal Gov Newsome actually VETOED a bill you didn't support. And this somehow made him even WORSE!

            The NY "thread" was a rabbit-hole of your own making, and it didn't take long to find the OAN story that was your source - and to see the flaws in it.... the same flaws I pointed out....

            Your excuse here (that a NY politician said something stupid - like THAT'S rare!) is like the 1st grader who complains that when he added 2 + 2 and got 5 - his "5" was printed PERFECTLY, so he should get some credit for that!

            Pathetic...

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              @bi4smooth

              The law Newsome vetoed is shit, but a lot of your party supported it. So he did something right, on this single occasion. That doesn't mean he didn't do the right thing on any other law.

              I don't read OAN, except on rare occasions when something pops up in one of my feeds.

              Since I don't know the article you are talking about, I'll have to assume you got your cliff notes from Joy "I was hacked" Reid.

              Let's not forget, it's your people that love 2+2= whatever the fuck you want it to be, or you are a racist.

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                @raphjd said in (CA) Gov Newsome vetoed Cal Grant expansion bill:

                @bi4smooth

                The law Newsome vetoed is shit, but a lot of your party supported it. So he did something right, on this single occasion. That doesn't mean he didn't do the right thing on any other law.

                I don't read OAN, except on rare occasions when something pops up in one of my feeds.

                Since I don't know the article you are talking about, I'll have to assume you got your cliff notes from Joy "I was hacked" Reid.

                Let's not forget, it's your people that love 2+2= whatever the fuck you want it to be, or you are a racist.

                I am not the "straw man" you are looking for...

                My people are what used to be called Reagan Republicans.
                My people believe in smaller Government
                My people believe in DEMOCRACY - you know, the one where the person with the most VOTES wins?

                However, I'm not SO PARTISAN that I'll fault a CA Governor who vetoes a bad (liberal) bill! I applaud him for vetoing that shit legislation! The fact that he's a Democrat doesn't mean he can't make a RIGHT decision every once in a while!

                You, on the other hand, aren't allowed by your Russian handlers to say anything nice about anyone BUT TRUMP... so I understand how you could be caught between a rock and a hard-place.

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                  Of course, you are not "my straw man", you are a Biden loving liberal.,

                  We have seen your posts, we know what you believe.

                  You claim I'm a Russian and Chinese troll, but you are the one that believes the government can trample our rights at any turn, as they please.

                  AGAIN, since you are an idiot.

                  You have never, ever made a thread calling out your lord and savior, but you have made them about Trump.

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                    bi4smooth @raphjd
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                    @raphjd said in (CA) Gov Newsome vetoed Cal Grant expansion bill:

                    @bi4smooth

                    Of course, you are not "my straw man", you are a Biden loving liberal.,

                    We have seen your posts, we know what you believe.

                    You claim I'm a Russian and Chinese troll, but you are the one that believes the government can trample our rights at any turn, as they please.

                    AGAIN, since you are an idiot.

                    You have never, ever made a thread calling out your lord and savior, but you have made them about Trump.

                    True, i don't start that many NEW threads here - I'm too busy trying to defend actual conservative principles against your bastardization (Trumpization) of them...

                    Your Russian influences have become clear, Comrade... your confusion about how Western Civilization works is in-line with the lack-luster, mediocre educational system in Mother Russia, not the exacting precision of the Chinese! There is no more confusion! Your handlers are Russians to be sure! If only because of the ERRORS they make!

                    Show me a Biden proposal I've supported!

                    Your 2-dimensional Trumpian mind equates anything NOT aligned with your false, Russian-aligned Propaganda in support of Trump as being FOR Biden.... NEWS FLASH COMRADE! There are other points of view than Biden or Trump!

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                      @bi4smooth

                      LIAR.

                      YES, you do have extreme TDS, thanks to your drug laces chop suey.

                      You don't start threads because you don't have a problem with what your "Dear Father" and the rest of the liberals do, except when they violate a business' "human rights".

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                        @raphjd said in (CA) Gov Newsome vetoed Cal Grant expansion bill:

                        @bi4smooth

                        LIAR.

                        YES, you do have extreme TDS, thanks to your drug laces chop suey.

                        You don't start threads because you don't have a problem with what your "Dear Father" and the rest of the liberals do, except when they violate a business' "human rights".

                        If your delusions were true, then simply applying a little Critical Thinking and/or Problem Solving (2 skills you are WOEFULLY inadequate in), you would have thought that during the Trump Administration, I'd have been creating thread after thread railing against him!

                        Nope... even then, I mostly posted my "true conservative" alternatives to your bloviated and hyperbolic Trumpist version of conservatism.

                        Tell Vladimir I said "Hi and F*CK YOU!", will you? Please?

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                          Ah, so you are just a combative cunt, stalker.

                          That explains a lot.

                          Kiss Dear Father for me.

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                            @raphjd said in (CA) Gov Newsome vetoed Cal Grant expansion bill:

                            @bi4smooth

                            Ah, so you are just a combative cunt, stalker.

                            That explains a lot.

                            Kiss Dear Father for me.

                            Ah, dear Comrade... you need to brush up on your American insults! You call the females "cunts" - because it is a crude reference to their vagina! You call the males other things... often calling them "fags" or "faggots," (both of which refer to sticks, so we don't really know their origin/value in being an insult) will get an outraged response. Also, in keeping with the American fascination with genitalia, calling a man a "dick" or a "cock sucker" will get the outrage you are seeking.

                            Also, again, you confuse your Mother Russia's great fondness for Putin, and the fatherly reverence you pay to him with how Americans do things. We shout down our leaders, often with meaningless chants. We throw things at them, and vote them out of office! (Honestly, we Americans just can't make up their minds about who we want for leaders! They're CONSTANTLY changing! I know - this is so confusing for a good Russian like you! I know you miss the consistency of always praising Putin - at least until he dies - but here in the US, we just use-them-up and discard them!)

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                              @bi4smooth

                              UMM, you need to get out more. Cunt is a term that is used against men, and to a lesser extent women, in many areas of the "western" world.

                              You really do have an obsession with Putin.

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                                @raphjd said in (CA) Gov Newsome vetoed Cal Grant expansion bill:

                                @bi4smooth

                                UMM, you need to get out more. Cunt is a term that is used against men, and to a lesser extent women, in many areas of the "western" world.

                                You really do have an obsession with Putin.

                                By "Western World", did you mean St. Petersburg, where you did your KGB training?

                                Comrade, my only interest in Putin is in your fealty and devotion to his KGB!

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                                  Boring <yawn>

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