Vatican Named in International Criminal Court Complaint
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I have long believed that the Catholic Church and Vatican have been in a conspiracy to hide these transgressions. Maybe a court trial will reveal just how big a conspiracy existed.
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I'm sure an International trial will take place, right after the Vatican renounces their absurd man-made doctrine against the use of condoms which is responsible for countless deaths thoughout the world, and just after I win the EuroMillions jackpot
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I for one don't think that there's an actual conspiracy. You mean like the Pope saying "Oh, let's hide this and claim it never happened." Nope, it just doesn't seem right. This also implies that Pope John Paul II was in the same conspiracy, and I just can't see that happening.
I don't think it fits the "crimes against humanity" portion. That's like blaming Obama for bullying in schools. Oh it must be his fault because he did nothing to stop it. After all, we're in the USA and he's the head of the USA. And bullying has been ongoing for the past century.
no offense intended, leatherbear. just my opinion.
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If the pope didn't know it was going on, then he must be extremely negligent in his duties of running his religion.
If he knew it was going on and did nothing to stop it, he's guilty.
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Not quite me - I love the Church but this is one area they have a lot to answer for. This issue was long known about at least in the US by the Council of Bishops or whatever that annual meeting where they meet from all over the US….It was brought up more than once and swept under the rug. Priests were transferred repeatedly or fled to Rome to avoid prosecution, Priests went to Catholic families and coerced them into not filing a complaint. Church Records were allowed to be kept secret from secular authorities (not so any more). And on and on.
Did the Pope know about each and every situation? Of course not, it is a world wide Church, but surely an annual meeting of Bishops should have raised some eyebrows.
(and I hate to agree with Raphjd not because it is him, but because I could just strangle these guys who did such incredible damage to our precious Church) but take your pick: it is either a conspiracy or extreme negligence.
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There is a movie about the very first legal case over the child molestation thing.
The incident took place in the mid/late 1960s in Canada.
It was amazing how evil the church was to the victims. Sadly, it seems like this is a pattern with the church. The victims are victimized twice, once by the priest and then by the church itself.
The guilty priest got convicted, but released into the churches hands for rehab. (Special rights for the church, as no other group would have a child molester turned over to them, the molester would be sent to prison)
Most child molesting priests would be secretly moved to another parish and the people there never told he was a child molester.
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I think you're referring to "The Boys of St. Vincent" and it was technically fictional, but was instead a kind of "composite" of a number of Canadian cases.
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That's not the one I'm thinking of.
The Boys of St Vincent is about an orphanage.
The one I'm thinking of is about a small farm community.
**EDIT: ** According to Wikipedia, The Boys of St Vincent is based on real events at Mount Cashel Orphanage (part 1) and the trial (part 2).
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According to Wikipedia;
The first public discussion of sexual abuse of minors by priests took place at a meeting sponsored by the National Association for Pastoral Renewal held on the campus of Notre Dame University in 1967, to which all U.S. Catholic bishops were invited.
That leads me to believe that the Pope knew since then and most likely before.
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I'm aware of the Mt. Cashel orphanage, but " The boys of St. Vincent" still had to be heavily fictionalized/made composite or they would have just called it "The boys of Mt. Cashel".
I'm in agreement that the pope almost certainly knew about abuse, but I don't know if a meeting in 1967 proves anything. Getting an invitation is not the same as attending. Making accusations or broaching a subject for the first time is not the same as proof or "full awareness." THE PRECEDING STATEMENTS ARE NOT EXCUSING WRONG DOING, but it would be just as if is someone said to me "State employees are crooked." Yeah, there are 30,000 of us and I'm sure one or two are crooked. It would be very difficult for me to accept after working there 25 years that MOST state employees are stealing. (even if most state employees actually did steal.).
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