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    • raphjdR Online
      raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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      @gerggently

      What do you think about the woman Trump talked about in that conversation who led him on so he would buy her a bunch of furniture, despite knowing she wouldn't sleep with him?

      This is where you give her the pussy pass.

      Arianne Zucker was there for most of the conversation and she didn't seem offended, but I guess you are offended for her.

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        bi4smooth @raphjd
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        @raphjd
        There is no "choice" under Section 230...

        If you publish a libelous post about someone, you are responsible! No Section 230 protection!

        If you provide a platform, and a 3rd party posts libelous content on that platform, you can sue the person who authored the post, but you cannot sue the platform!

        If you provide a platform, and you post content that is libelous, you have no protection under Section 230 - because you're not a 3rd party!

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          raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth
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          @bi4smooth

          NYT is a publisher. They control what is published, therefore they are liable for what is on their site.

          Twitter is a platform, so they have no legal liability for what is posted. HOWEVER, they act as a publisher by controlling what is published.

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            bi4smooth @raphjd
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            @raphjd
            Sorry - removing some posts (and protection against suits because of that) is covered under Section 230

            You are not guaranteed unfettered free speech - ANYWHERE!!
            Even the Government can limit speech in certain circumstances - but Twitter isn't the Government - and neither are they a monopoly (or even a regulated provider, like your local TV Station! Twitter is not broadcast over public airwaves)...

            Your (falsely) perceived 1st Amendment right to post your political views on their (privately owned) platform is running head first into their actual right to do whatever they want with their property!

            NOTE: IF Twitter were to require their editorial approval BEFORE allowing content on their site, THEN they would be a publisher....

            This ain't that!

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            • raphjdR Online
              raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth
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              @bi4smooth

              No duh, the Supreme Court has been clear on free speech.

              Are you saying I would be totally within my right to ban you and the rest of the swamp monster?

              Twitter has set rules for what is allowed and what is not allowed, as a publisher would do.

              Ironically enough, Twitter says kiddie porn doesn't violate their TOS, but saying "but they aren't women, though" does violate their TOS. What does it say about you that you are defending them.

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                gerggently @raphjd
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                @raphjd

                Are you saying that a private company cannot set out ToS for the platform it has created?

                ToS is not editorialising.

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                  gerggently @raphjd
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                  @raphjd said in The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment:

                  @gerggently

                  What do you think about the woman Trump talked about in that conversation who led him on so he would buy her a bunch of furniture, despite knowing she wouldn't sleep with him?

                  So you admit that Frumpy was messing around with women.

                  This is where you give her the pussy pass.

                  Nope.

                  Arianne Zucker was there for most of the conversation and she didn't seem offended, but I guess you are offended for her.

                  I don't care what Arianne thinks, I know what's on the tape.

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                  • gerggentlyG Offline
                    gerggently @raphjd
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                    @raphjd said in The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment:

                    @bi4smooth

                    No duh, the Supreme Court has been clear on free speech.

                    Yes, they have, and a private platform setting out ToS is not a free speech issue.

                    Twitter has set rules for what is allowed and what is not allowed, as a publisher would do.

                    Nope, this is ToS, something that the majority of private companies have

                    Ironically enough, Twitter says kiddie porn doesn't violate their TOS, but saying "but they aren't women, though" does violate their TOS. What does it say about you that you are defending them.

                    Why are you lying?

                    link text

                    Do ctrl-f

                    TwitterToS - Copy.png

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                    • raphjdR Online
                      raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                      Seems like someone is clueless about what is going on in the world;

                      https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/twitter-sued-for-allegedly-refusing-to-remove-child-porn/

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                      • raphjdR Online
                        raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                        @gerggently

                        Besides the fact that you are such a child that you can't say Trump's name properly, what does it have to do with anything?

                        You are all butt hurt about how Trumpsupposedly treats women, but you feel it's ok to discount women who don't agree with you.

                        Typical liberal.

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                          raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                          @gerggently said in The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment:

                          @raphjd

                          Are you saying that a private company cannot set out ToS for the platform it has created?

                          ToS is not editorialising.

                          As I already asked, would I be totally in my rights and you would willingly accept it If I banned you because you are too childish enough to say Trump's name properly?

                          Nah, you'd whine and we all know it.

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                            gerggently @raphjd
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                            @raphjd

                            Is it against ToS here to not talk about the tangerine terror by name?

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                              • raphjdR Online
                                raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                                @gerggently

                                You have no right to free speech on a private site.

                                That is your stance.

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                                  gerggently @raphjd
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                                  @raphjd said in The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment:

                                  @gerggently

                                  Seems like someone is clueless about what is going on in the world;

                                  Were you lying or not?

                                  Is my link and screenshot, proving your claim that "Twitter says kiddie porn doesn't violate their TOS" wrong too much for you to comprehend?

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                                    gerggently @raphjd
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                                    @raphjd said in The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment:

                                    @gerggently

                                    You have no right to free speech on a private site.

                                    That is your stance.

                                    Pretty much, just like you have no right to free speech when in another person's private home.

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                                    • raphjdR Online
                                      raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                                      @gerggently

                                      And yet you clearly didn't read my link.

                                      They refused to remove the child porn because it didn't violate their TOS.

                                      They only removed it because Homeland security got involved.

                                      Why are you trying to defend their shitty action?

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                                        gerggently @raphjd
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                                        @raphjd

                                        Is you quote "Twitter says kiddie porn doesn't violate their TOS" wrong or not?

                                        Did you not read the link or screenshot I sent?

                                        Have them again:

                                        link text

                                        TwitterToS - Copy.png

                                        So, to ask you again, does Twitter explicitly say that child porn is not acceptable on their site or not?

                                        Did you lie, or were you uninformed?

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                                        • raphjdR Online
                                          raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                                          @gerggently

                                          So, you would happily accept being banned from here, without ever complaining about it, because you have no right to free speech here?

                                          Of course, you wouldn't. You would whine to everyone how I'm a fascist because I banned you because of your free speech.

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                                          • raphjdR Online
                                            raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                                            @gerggently

                                            LOL, you are a pathetic clown.

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