Discussion about bugs and backups :)
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Send a photo, ok I have uploaded 3 to my profile. Is that what your talking about?
Hello Rich Â
Not sure I understand your "send a photo"
Only thing I asked from you was a link of your last uploaded torrent so I could thank you with 20 SBP in your torrent description page (it's the only place where I can send you Seed Bonus Points)
But you answered that you never uploaded anything until yet, so I'll just wait your 1st upload, then thank you with 20 SBP in your torrent description page, ok ?Mgr will certainly answer tomorrow concerning this DVD possible issue, in case your upload speed is as low as mine.
But as you're talking about "200-900Mb" this should be ok, even if your upload speed is 30 KB/sCould you please explain what you mean with this "send a photo" thing ?
Or were you talking about a part of the uploading process in the menu , when you're asked to "add pic to your description page" ?And by the way, what client program do you use to manage your torrents ? utorrent or another one ?
Mods will certainly ask you the question sooner or later -
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Mgr will certainly answer tomorrow concerning this DVD possible issue, in case your upload speed is as low as mine.
...Why is it everyone seems to know me so good ???
@blackid: As to your last questions:
Average upload speed: the reported upload speed of the complete time when you uploaded something (the reported upload traffic divided by the reported time to upload anything). That is, admittedly, just a rough estimate of what a user can in fact upload (when he wants to upload something quickly) - but on the other hand it also tells (at least us) how a user distributes his average load (in case he works with other trackers too).
Take an example: We ask a user who wants to upload more than one torrent at the same time to have at least an upload speed of > 50 kB/s before we will even answer such a request. Now he sends me a speed test result that he is able to upload with 500 kB/s - but his average upload speed was below 5 kB/s. In this case I have to assume that he has either limited his upload bandwidth drastically for BitTorrents or he has other trackers where he uses most of his bandwidth. (That is a true case from the past!) So the Avg. upload speed does not say all, but quite a lot especially when his stats say he has this avg. reached in about 3000 hours. Additionally there is the number of allowed torrents to seed/leech beside a new upload - that number is based on the highest upload speed he reached in the past (in my above example that number was still 1 - which means he had never an upload speed above 20 kB/s). So although we can't see the user's configuration, we get a lot of small parts of a puzzle where we can build a nice picture of the user and his "behavior" as a seeder.
As to your question about acceptable torrent size for a defined upload speed: As a rough rule I agree with the mod's answer "~1 GB" but: (the following is my personal opinion): When I try to download a complete DVD (especially a DVD DL) I DO know what I attempt and I also DO know that it will take some time. <joke>Especially when the uploader is the anxious type who fears his computer will explode when it is switched on (and even seeding the whole time) longer than two hours in a row.</joke> . I had times where it took me more than 4 weeks to download a complete DVD-DL from an uploader who had decided to seed only 2 hours a day. Such experiences lead me to the knowledge: the most important thing you need with BitTorrents is patience, patience, patience!!!
Taking in account what I wrote before: May be you can (as a first try) upload a smaller version of a complete DVD, but never forget that each and every conversion will reduce the quality of the resulting video - so at least try to upload the complete DVD (the best available quality) afterwards. That will not only bring a good conscious towards quality freaks like me but also a good push to your ratio.
As to patience: I just found a nice quote:
Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing
And stop laughing
Sometimes it has advantages to be a staff member, f.x. with falsely secured profiles  >:D -
Blackdid, forget the photo thing it was something I miss read and was my mistake. We're good stud. This site is a little intimidating to me because I have never uploaded my movies before. Do I fill out all the information like how was in it and ha ha the plot? What's the description I write used for? I hate asking all these question because I know if I look around you've already answered it somewhere. I'm just to lazy to look. Please :spank2: or
in the right direction and then spank me again. What's the best way to make sure I'm not duplicating something? -
@mgr:
…I had times where it took me more than 4 weeks to download a complete DVD-DL from an uploader who had decided to seed only 2 hours a day...
Thx Mgr, it's always a great pleasure to read youÂ
I guess "this uploader who decided to seed only 2 hours a day" wasn't here in GT, because rule #6 stipulates :
"Seeding times below 12 hrs a day are not acceptable for new uploads"
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/rules.php#102Ahhh…the "impossible" word...Napoléon Bonaparte made it very short when he said : "Impossible n'est pas français"
He's the one that "created" that popular sayingÂNow Mgr, could you please explain me something concerning the "Average upload speed" (AUS) ?
You wrote this : "AUS : the reported upload speed of the complete time when you uploaded something (the reported upload traffic divided by the reported time to upload anything)"But there's something strange in this explanation, because you calculate the AUS of a user, even when this user is NOT the only seeder of a torrent.
My point is, I would have liked you to calculate the AUS (or another AUS bis) only during the time when we are original uploaders, with our new torrents (and you stop calculating it as soon as there are 2 seeders or more in this new torrent)
If you did that for me, my AUS would indicate (more or less) 28KB/s (instead of 12.66 as shown now)
I can explain why my AUS shows 12.66 : for example this happens when I seed an "old" torrent in utorrent and let's say there are 1 or 2 leechers who will download from several seeders (including me) at same time : maybe I'll upload with a 4 or 5KB/s to one leecher (I see that a lot) because that leecher is downloading from 30 seeders at same time.Now of course my AUS will drastically go low, it will be a combination of the times when I was the original uploader in my own new torrents (28KB/s) and the times when I seeded at 5KB/s during hours when we were several seeders with a couple of leechers in "old" torrents.
That's why when "you ask a user who wants to upload more than one (NEW) torrent at a time" (that's not for me lol), you should (imho) only calculate what was his AUS during all the times when he was the only seeder in his new torrents . This would be a more accurate indication for you if it was automatically calculated by GT
I understood very well the examples you gave in your precedent post, but please notice as you HAVE to ask a user a "speed test" so he can show you his maximum upload speed, in case he asks to upload 2 new torrents at same time.
My question is still the same : isn't it a possibility for you to calculate a 2nd AUS based only on times when the user was uploading his own torrents and was the only seeder ?
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I have uploaded a new file. Here's the link http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=89980 is that what you needed.
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Just to remark: It was not me saying that about 1 GB should be the right size … simply because I hunt for full DVD and some take me weeks and months to complete. (Currently I am downloading a DVD DL since 34 days and the estimated time to go is more than another week, there is one seed in the 1 to 2 kB/s area).
If a full DVD upload can be finished in a week, that seems for me a still acceptable endeavour. We have a set of rules targeting to reduce the complete distribution time of new torrent's files for the confort of the downloader [1]. However if these are respected, the downloader just have to accept that big file uploads may take a long time and to thank the uploader for the file they get. It is only the initial upload phase which may be long, the download speed will be much faster as soon as the swarm got in hold of a complete distributed copy.
Now, to the question of Rich,
Not sure, the .mpg is made from what, a single .vob file?
What guys like mgr and me are looking for is the content of the full VIDEO_TS folder (directory), means all the .ifo , .bup and .vob files (to repeat all), respectively the single .iso file. A torrent programme in the new torrent creation menu will ask if you want to create a torrent from a single file or a directory (read folder). There you need to choose "Directory" and then point to the VIDEO_TS folder which you have renamed by the movie title before.
If you want to make a compressed version of the DVD main movie, I can recommend "Handbrake", either version 0.93 if you really want an AVI or the latest if an .MKV or .MP4 is acceptable for you. It can load the files of a VIDEO_TS folder, detects the main movie and got Profiles for different devices to play later the file on. Then you need to make some trials to find the settings satisfying you.
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OK I'm seeding the file Ritualpt1 and waiting to see what my upload speed is but no one has downloaded it. Â I understand that whole movies are the preference and that's what I'm always looking for too. Â I cut the video down to test the system and it looks like a total failure. Â What should I do next? Â I'm seeding only the one video right now to free up all my available upload bandwidth.
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Is that the full movie or just a change of a .vob into an mpg, means not the complete movie?
No one is downloading it yet, because it isn't approved. I was waiting with the approval for you answer to the same question in my previous message.
It says part 1, so will be there more parts?
Why don't you go directly to a full DVD Video upload?
Note a 1.26 GB version AVI of this movie does already exist.
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@Uwe:
Is that the full movie or just a change of a .vob into an mpg, means not the complete movie?
No one is downloading it yet, because it isn't approved. I was waiting with the approval for you answer to the same question in my previous message.
It says part 1, so will be there more parts?
Why don't you go directly to a full DVD Video upload?
Note a 1.26 GB version AVI of this movie does already exist.
This is a test upload, mate. I did a search for the movie and didn't see it in the library and yes I cut to first seen and only uploaded that. But if this video already exists then I will not add anymore of this movie to the site. I have the DVD but I can't get a upload speed that's going to allow me to furnish you with full movies at the highest quality. That may change after my test but for now I'm only uploading this one seen so I can calculate the time needed to seed a huge 4.5 gig movie. I've seen many video's cut down into pieces and the mpg format looked to be the highest quality but also the largest file size. Would an AVI file be better and compress the whole thing down to seven or eight hundred meg file? That's not what MGR said. He likes the highest quality and I agree with that. I would rather cut the film into smaller parts that are more easily managed then huge files. If this is the wrong approach I'll gladly change my strategy but for now I'm still testing the system for the best results.
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You have completed the upload of the 604 MB file in less than 90 minutes (first leecher completed his download after 87 minutes).
This makes an average upload rate of about 115 kB/s, which for an ADSL line is an excellent value and largely high enough to upload a full double layer DVD (which can reach more than 8 GB).
BTW: Like mgr I prefer the highest possible quality and are prepared to take the longer download time to complete. I thought that was clear in my earlier first posting on this subject.
Splitting in mpg parts and upload one after the other doesn't make things better. If you repack .vob into mpg, the movie file size will be very similar and the menus and extra of the DVD lost. This while the overall download time to get all parts will be similar.
Really you can share full DVD VIDEO_TS folder or ISO images.
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Bravo Rich, glad you made it
Hey guys, I found a way to display at same time the File list AND the Seeders/Leechers list of any torrent !
I don't think we could do it until now : depending on where we clicked, the description page displayed the File list OR the Seeders/Leechers list.What about the following link ?
(Rich, it's your 1st your torrent link)
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=89980&filelist=1&dllist=1As promised, your 20 SBP haven't been forgotten (in fact I gave you all my SBP as I won't need them anymore)
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I have another question. The last torrent I uploaded was huge 1.4 gigs for 25 min of film. Is that right?? Did I do something wrong?
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That does sound a little high for a video that is so short, however depending on the resolution, (640x480, 1820x1080, etc) the format of the video, audio and video bitrates, etc. the size of the video may vary. Generally speaking though, for a video of that size, that does seem a little large. If however the video is a .vob then it's likely about right… It would also be about right if you have an extremely high bitrate for both audio and video with a large resolution.
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In that actual case it looks to be a .MPG. If it is rightly done, it is just the re-packaging of the video stream and one audio stream in a .VOB without decoding / re-encoding (and therefore without quality loss).
The result is a similar size than the .vob (minus the lost content like subtitle sub-pictures, menus and additional audio streams).
Unfortunately some conversion programmes don't allow changing the container without decoding / re-encoding and will therefore create quality losses even if excessive bit rates (and therefore resulting file size) are chosen for video and audio.As discussed earlier, instead of uploading a DVD in parts, it is better to share all the VIDEO_TS folder content (.IFO , .BUP and .VOB) in one torrent, giving the full DVD experience with menus, extras, subtitles and multiple languages audio.
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MrMazda and Uwe, Thanks for getting back to me on this issue. :urock: I'd like to clear one thing up for you first. :pleasant: It's was a suggestion that prompted me to cut the film into smaller sections. Their is a torrent already listed for the whole film but I was made aware that some members may only want the sex scenes. Plus some members with smaller hard drives may enjoy the smaller file size.
I have no problem offering the whole folder as a complete DVD and for the most part that's what I'm going to do. This is just an unusual situation and I would like to get the best solution. I'm no expert when it comes to video editing or formating but I'm a quick learner. Quality is my biggest concern. I'm wandering what would be the best program for me to use? I am using Power Director v8 now and it's easy to us and the conversion options and not bad, AVI, MPEG 1, MPEG 2, Mpeg 4, AVC, WMV, RN, and MOV. Standard setting only. You cannot customize any of these settings on the outputs. I used the MPEG 1 setting to cut the 25 min. of film and that's where the 1.4 gigs came from. I did have a complain about the quality of the picture and size of the file. ""1.46 GB ? seriously? for a "clip" that is only 25 ninutes long, not in HD or even wide screen. Im surprisedÂ
Yeah the clip is hot but I can't get over the lack of quality "" that was made by (djclintonk) I don't want to waist time with junk videos and get comments like this again. The video quality was not HD on my DVD and the copy looks the same as the original so there's nothing I can do about that.So maybe a video training class needs to take place. Or!! Is there one already and I haven't found it? A short "How to" video would be great as well. Hmmm
Basically what I need is, what program to use and what the settings should be to get the best output. :google: I'm looking!!!
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If you have unprotected DVD files, I'd suggest to use Handbrake. It will create either MP4, M4V (for some Apple device compatibiliy) or MKV and you can set quite a lot of encoding parameters, but got "Profiles" with default working settings.
Else in Quality for Size ranging from best to worst:
AVC (as well known as h.264 or by a codec x.264 or MPEG-4 Part 10)
MPEG-4 (best known codecs DivX and Xvid)
MPEG-2 (used for DVD)
MPEG-1 (used for VCD)Many DVD player can handle AVI with MPEG-4 files.
While the playback of MOV, MP4 and MKV is generally limited to HDTV devices (Digital TV set-top-boxes, Blu-ray Disc players).MOV and MP4 are quite similar container (usually used for MPEG-4 or AVC).
RM is known to make small file sizes and bad quality (may be because of excessive low bitrate settings while encoding).
WMV should be comparable to MPEG4 and AVC
In the above list, it is reverse for calculation power for encoding and decoding, the better require more power, respectively encoding time.
In short, for your clip, either MPEG-4, AVC or MOV would have been a better choice
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If you're wanting to convert, I personally use VideoPad Video Editor because it allows you to do a multitude of things, including adjusting the audio levels and choosing the exact encoding and such to use. As for format, I generally prefer AVI because of the fact that although AVI files are slightly larger, it's partially because they don't use compression in which to render the video, thus generally producing a video with better qualtiy. As for the video codec, I generally prefer DivX because it's free and widely available. XVid is also another worthy option of choice when working with an AVI file.
As for the bitrate, quality, etc, my suggestion is to match it as closely as you can to the original rates of the video. Dropping the audio and/or video rate settings slightly does tend to reduce the size, but I advise against dropping the bitrates too much as it can result in poor quality sound and/or video. VideoPad Video Editor also allows you to manually specify the resolution, etc and can be adjusted to force any resolution you specify. If you're just looking for a straight converter, I would be inclined to suggest Any Video Converter. There is a free version, however the professional version (which I have a cracked copy of) offers a much wider range of formats and support. It's a little more straight forward than VideoPad Video Editor, but does the job just the same in most cases.
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Thanks guys. This information is spread out all over the place so it's great to get it condensed and to the point from you. I'll try some things and get back to you.  :thankyou:
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I have a question regarding the ratios. I downloaded a file that was over a gig (RSS - Night Maneuvers.avi) and my torrent program says I've uploaded .994, however gaytor.rent has only recorded 478.42 of the 1002 I've already uploaded. I'm not sure what the reason is for this. Also I am not sure if there is any recourse for this either. Thanks for your help….if you require screenshots of my torrent program, please let me know.
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Did you stop seeding in-between and then after restarted? The displayed upload on GayTorrent.ru is only showing the upload since the last start. In addition the tracker is update only each 30 minutes.
Only the global upload and download counter are adding up all together (the reports received from your torrent programme by our tracker).
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