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    Sponsors of terror ‘falling victim to evil they promote’ ‒ Trump on Tehran attak

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      sutieday
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      @strangeloop:

      @sutieday:

      How so? Opening a topic generally means you discuss that topic.

      I'm talking about the comment made by the Trump WH towards this terrorist attack, not being partisan, just critical of it.

      It's called being Intellectually Honest.

      What you are doing is called Intellectual Dishonesty.  It is blatantly obvious to literally everyone that you wouldn't criticize any other democratic president in the same way, because, well you haven't.  Let's see if this post is something anyone could see you writing:

      Oh the irony! Barack's support of Saudi Wahhabism by his $115 billion+ billion arms deal is what is fueling terrorism! Iran is fighting ISIS!

      How will Libtards defend him?

      No, of course not, you didn't write that post at the time, and you would never write that post about Hillary either.

      Because, let's face it:

      Your post is nonsense, I'm critical of the president and regardless of the party they belong to. I know Obama's admin was working towards the Saudi deal, but Trump was the one who signed it.

      I hope that Congress can overrule him with the help of good republicans like Sen. Rand Paul.

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        strangeloop
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        @sutieday:

        Your post is nonsense, I'm critical of the president and regardless of the party they belong to. I know Obama's admin was working towards the Saudi deal, but Trump was the one who signed it.

        Obama didn't just propose a deal, he actively sold weapons to Saudi Arabia throughout his presidency.

        Ah, so maybe you were being truthful about criticizing regardless of party, but were just ill informed?  Maybe you would've criticized Obama too, if you knew he also sold billions of dollars to SA?  Yes/no?

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          strangeloop
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          "Obama’s Administration Sold More Weapons Than Any Other Since World War II"

          https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/obamas-administration-sold-more-weapons-than-any-other-since-world-war-ii

          Are you going to criticize Obama now that you know?

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            sutieday
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            @strangeloop:

            @sutieday:

            Your post is nonsense, I'm critical of the president and regardless of the party they belong to. I know Obama's admin was working towards the Saudi deal, but Trump was the one who signed it.

            Obama didn't just propose a deal, he actively sold weapons to Saudi Arabia throughout his presidency.

            Ah, so maybe you were being truthful about criticizing regardless of party, but were just ill informed?  Maybe you would've criticized Obama too, if you knew he also sold billions of dollars to SA?  Yes/no?

            Right now, I'm criticizing Trump because of his Saudi deal. I'm not gonna pivot because it suits your narrative. Trump lied when he said he wasn't a puppet, he is clearly a Saudi puppet.

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              sutieday
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              @strangeloop:

              "Obama’s Administration Sold More Weapons Than Any Other Since World War II"

              https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/obamas-administration-sold-more-weapons-than-any-other-since-world-war-ii

              Are you going to criticize Obama now that you know?

              You're only argument is that what Trump is doing is okay because Obama did it, and no its not.

              Your argument is just tu quoque, trying to deflect from criticism of your guy (#45) and criticize someone else.

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                strangeloop
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                Oh dear lord you doubled down. Obama came up with the deal, Obama sold weapons to them throughout his presidency.  But you can only criticize Trump?

                lol hypocrisy on full display here folks.  Sad!

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                  strangeloop
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                  I'll tell you what, make a new post in a separate topic criticizing Obama for his dealings with Saudia Arabia and people will take you seriously.

                  Right now, you have no credibility for your intellectual dishonesty and double standards.

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                    sutieday
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                    I used to be a Trump shill like yourself @strangeloop (you can check my posts months ago), but I woke up after Tomahawk Trump and the Saudi deal.

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                      strangeloop
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                      @sutieday:

                      I used to be a Trump shill like yourself @strangeloop (you can check my posts months ago), but I woke up after Tomahawk Trump and the Saudi deal.

                      Who says I like Trump?  You think I do but you don't know that, you're just assuming.  Calling out your intellectual dishonesty doesn't mean I think selling weapons to SA is a good thing.

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                        sutieday
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                        @strangeloop:

                        @sutieday:

                        I used to be a Trump shill like yourself @strangeloop (you can check my posts months ago), but I woke up after Tomahawk Trump and the Saudi deal.

                        Who says I like Trump?  You think I do but you don't know that, you're just assuming.  Calling out your intellectual dishonesty doesn't mean I think selling weapons to SA is a good thing.

                        Exactly, who says I like Obama? Numerous times have I said his Saudi support was bad as well.

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                          strangeloop
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                          @sutieday:

                          Exactly, who says I like Obama? Numerous times have I said his Saudi support was bad as well.

                          Okay, where have you said that?  Because all I see in this thread is your refusal to do so.  All I see is that you're making this about attacking Trump/Trump supporters, rather than talking about the actual issue, which isn't necessarily a problem with any single administration.

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                            sutieday
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                            @strangeloop:

                            @sutieday:

                            Exactly, who says I like Obama? Numerous times have I said his Saudi support was bad as well.

                            rather than talking about the actual issue, which isn't necessarily a problem with any single administration.

                            I'm blaming the Trump administration for giving money to Saudi Arabia and the recent terror attacks that have occured afterwards in the UK, and Iran.

                            You have yet to give anything critical of the Trump admin and instead just pivot to Obama, who is not currently the president.

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                              @sutieday:

                              @strangeloop:

                              @sutieday:

                              Exactly, who says I like Obama? Numerous times have I said his Saudi support was bad as well.

                              rather than talking about the actual issue, which isn't necessarily a problem with any single administration.

                              I'm blaming the Trump administration for giving money to Saudi Arabia and the recent terror attacks that have occured afterwards in the UK, and Iran.

                              You have yet to give anything critical of the Trump admin and instead just pivot to Obama, who is not currently the president.

                              Sutieday.. I don't recall you ever mentioning Obama giving Iran $150 billion, including a secret payout of $400 million in blatant ransom in 2016. 
                              By the way.. where did you dream up the idea that the Trump administration ever gave money to Saudi Arabia?

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                                Sutieday, how is Trump related to the terror attacks in the UK or EU?

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                                  @Frederick:

                                  @sutieday:

                                  @strangeloop:

                                  @sutieday:

                                  Exactly, who says I like Obama? Numerous times have I said his Saudi support was bad as well.

                                  rather than talking about the actual issue, which isn't necessarily a problem with any single administration.

                                  I'm blaming the Trump administration for giving money to Saudi Arabia and the recent terror attacks that have occured afterwards in the UK, and Iran.

                                  You have yet to give anything critical of the Trump admin and instead just pivot to Obama, who is not currently the president.

                                  Sutieday.. I don't recall you ever mentioning Obama giving Iran $150 billion, including a secret payout of $400 million in blatant ransom in 2016. 
                                  By the way.. where did you dream up the idea that the Trump administration ever gave money to Saudi Arabia?

                                  I see more examples of Trump's "poorly educated" supporters everyday  ;D

                                  http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/20/us-saudi-arabia-seal-weapons-deal-worth-nearly-110-billion-as-trump-begins-visit.html

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                                    No US President is going to go against Saudi.    It's just not gonna happen.

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                                      strangeloop
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                                      Sutieday, sutieday….

                                      I asked you two direct questions solely of clarifying intent about the WORDS YOU SAID.

                                      First, you said that you're "blaming the Trump administration ... for the recent terror attacks that have occured in the UK" [sic].  I'm asking for you to back up this statement with evidence.  How is Trump responsible for terror attacks in the UK?

                                      Secondly, you said that you've condemned Obama for his support of Saudia Arabia?  Where have you done so?

                                      I'm not making an argument here, and I'm not asking a rhetorical question. I'm simply asking for you to clarify your meaning, based on words you've already felt comfortable to put down in writing.

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                                        sutieday
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                                        @strangeloop:

                                        Sutieday, sutieday….

                                        I asked you two direct questions solely of clarifying intent about the WORDS YOU SAID.

                                        First, you said that you're "blaming the Trump administration ... for the recent terror attacks that have occured in the UK" [sic].  I'm asking for you to back up this statement with evidence.  How is Trump responsible for terror attacks in the UK?

                                        Secondly, you said that you've condemned Obama for his support of Saudia Arabia?  Where have you done so?

                                        I'm not making an argument here, and I'm not asking a rhetorical question. I'm simply asking for you to clarify your meaning, based on words you've already felt comfortable to put down in writing.

                                        If I blame the Trump admin, that is a statement, not a fact.

                                        I have said anyone supporting Saudi Arabia is bad.

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                                          @raphjd:

                                          No US President is going to go against Saudi.    It's just not gonna happen.

                                          That just shows you that liberals are FEELZ NOT REALZ.

                                          Down voting a well known fact.  Sheesh, you people are pathetic.

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                                            sutieday
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                                            @raphjd:

                                            @raphjd:

                                            No US President is going to go against Saudi.    It's just not gonna happen.

                                            That just shows you that liberals are FEELZ NOT REALZ.

                                            Down voting a well known fact.  Sheesh, you people are pathetic.

                                            Jeez, just think of the downvote as an upside down upvote.  🙂

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