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    'Gay cake' appeal: Christian bakers Ashers lose appeal

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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      Under federal law, most groups are protected from discrimination.  HOWEVER,  GLBTs are not protected.  This means that regardless of your religious beliefs, you can only be bigots toward gays and be within the law.

      Currently, only some states provide equal protection under state laws.

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        456435653
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        So many gay fascists in this world. It should be legal to turn away gays, blacks, Jews—anybody.

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        • raphjdR Offline
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          @456435653:

          So many gay fascists in this world. It should be legal to turn away gays, blacks, Jews—anybody.

          Except that,  you can really only be a bigot to LGBTs in most of the US.

          It's not "gay fascism" to want equality under the law.

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            horyna
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            Yes, of course that was most likely a "set-up". I don't think the gay-rights activist just wanted a cake, that he could have any other place.

            I reminds me of some "kiss-ins" we had 25 years ago when a lesbian couple was kicked out of a bar. I guess it was well known that this bakery is a bit homophobic and religious lunatic and the guy decided to order some "gay cake".

            It may seem ridiculous at times but without "gay activists" and stuff like that we all would still be in the closet. At least those of us who are out and not married with children and only "gay on the internet". 😉

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              cannonmc
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              @456435653:

              …It should be legal to turn away gays, blacks, Jews—anybody.

              It is in most places  😞

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                redraiderkd
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                There is a very similar case to this in Oregon.  In that case the Bakery eventually closed.

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                  groningen89
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                  gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone, does it? It's not like straight marriage would become illegal or something? Religious people can be so heartless sometimes…

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                    alma
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                    @groningen89:

                    gay marriage doesn't hurt anyone, does it? It's not like straight marriage would become illegal or something? Religious people can be so heartless sometimes…

                    i wanted to say that but you said it first !
                    Agree 100%

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                      sniperbeta
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                      Guys, y'all realise this ruling means if you are a gay baker you will not allowed to not make a cake saying "homosexuality is a sin" if a customer asks for it?

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                        Eridanos
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                        @sniperbeta:

                        Guys, y'all realise this ruling means if you are a gay baker you will not allowed to not make a cake saying "homosexuality is a sin" if a customer asks for it?

                        Seems they don't realize it yet. 😕

                        As someone said already, law is a two-way street.

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                        • raphjdR Offline
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                          @sniperbeta:

                          Guys, y'all realise this ruling means if you are a gay baker you will not allowed to not make a cake saying "homosexuality is a sin" if a customer asks for it?

                          What you are forgeting is that it would be illegal under federal law which protects believers (and several other groups), but not LGBTs.  It would only not be illegal if the state also included LGBTs in anti-discrimination laws.

                          Most states do not include LGBTs in anti-discrimination laws.  So in most of the US, gays are forced to pander to believers who can actively discriminate against them.

                          Anti-discrimination protections is an all or nothing type thing.  There is no equality in a system that allows a group to be discriminated against, but not others.

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                            samiderwish
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                            iam so happy for that also

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