Any Trump Supporters here?
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Hillary may be a tough choice to swallow- but Trump has been consistently worse. His policies are incoherent ramblings, he is a misogynist and racist, he brags about not paying taxes, swindling people who work for him, bankrupting multiple business ventures…the list goes on and on. Let's not forget he is a serial liar who has made the truth a joke in this election, and he is a hate-monger who is supported by the KKK.
Waving an (inverted) rainbow flag does not make you a supporter of gay rights. Representing the party which has consistently opposed gay rights and making statements that you want to undo marriage equality shows you are solidly against LGBT people. So, no, I don't think people should vote for him. The world would be a more dangerous place if he leads America for the next four years.
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Hillary >>>>> Trump
And it's not even close.
I'm not a huge fan of Hillary but in comparison to Trump she definitely needs to win. Trump is a demagogue who has thrown all minorities under the bus and clearly is ignorant on social issues which directly impacts our social group.
We can all debate a variety of issues like the economy, military, etc. But what should be very clear is which political alliances (AKA parties) have had our backs more when it comes to legislation on LGBT issues and which party has thrown us under the bus more to other political interests.
1 of the most important powers of the President is his/her power to appoint federal judges and justices to the Supreme Court. No branch of the government is perfect or free from corruption, but of the 3 branches, the judicial branch has been the most consistently protective of minority rights (against tyranny of the majority) and the one who has paved the way for increased social justice. They helped end segregation, allowed interracial marriage, and of course recently paved the way for gay marriage among many other issues.
There's a whole bunch of other reasons to elect Hillary over Trump like the fact that she's a professional politician (where most of her faults come from, but that's largely a matter of "hate the game, not the player") whereas Trump still has all the vices of a politician without the experience, diplomacy, and competence. He's a loose cannon whose main concern is his own self-interest and not the nation's. He's clearly demonstrated he'll sell minority groups like us down the river.
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supported by the KKK
the party which has consistently opposed gay rights
statements that you want to undo marriage equalityThe truth is that the US government has never been into protecting LGBT people.
And in this election this applies to both you know who:
let's not forget the difference between public and private position.If gay rights have been granted is a matter of circumstances due mostly to the perseverance of the people.
Not politics, not party, people.For this reason I tend to hope that would have happened even if whoever else had power.
And for this exact reason I tend to think that an undo isn't going to happen anytime soon.If you have time and wanna read a dissertation about KKK-equality-etc, here you can find some of past concerns that have never entirely left.
https://byparker.com/blog/2016/tim-cook-s-privacy-battle-is-personal/The battle for freedom as in speech, thought, behaviour, sexuality, religion is not gone,
there's only a change in appearance, but no one is going to endeavour our own battle, we have to. -
The US elections are the only ones in the western world where I get genuinely scared for the future of humanity because they always bring forward the most disturbing candidates.
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I can't wait for the nightmare to be over!
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Hillary has defended rape (it's a fact)
Evidence? Or just Breitbart?
In 1975 Clinton defended a man accused of raping a 12 year old girl. She attacked the victim's credibility, and got the charges reduced in a plea bargain. In a taped interview in the 1980's Clinton is heard laughing about getting the man off.
Please get your facts straight, a judge assigned the rape case to Clinton. She did not volunteer to defend the man. She didn't even want to take the case but she could not refuse the judge. In 1980 she was interviewed about the case and during the interview she laughed about unusual aspects pertaining to the case, she wasn't laughing about getting the man off. You should really do a little more research try using factcheck, a nonpartisan, nonprofit “consumer advocate” for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics.
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Black and gay and voting for Trump tomorrow.
Sorry. This is the united states. Entertainment capital of the world. It's always gonna be okay to be gay.
Plus I relate more to Trump. Hillary already had her chance.
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Gay persons who support candidates that have such vile anti-LGBT rights views usually have some sort of self-hatred complex, OR they are well off and view their moneyed interests as more important than LGBT rights for all LGBT persons.
Therefore, they are usually white Americans.
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Black and gay and voting for Trump tomorrow.
Sorry. This is the united states. Entertainment capital of the world. It's always gonna be okay to be gay.
Plus I relate more to Trump. Hillary already had her chance.
Goes to show you ,not all Blacks look the same,nor think the same. David Duke and all his sicko friends supported Trump! How can any person of color relate to that???
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Black and gay and voting for Trump tomorrow.
Sorry. This is the united states. Entertainment capital of the world. It's always gonna be okay to be gay.
Plus I relate more to Trump. Hillary already had her chance.
It was perfectly fine to be gay when all those teens were beaten to death right? Orlando did never happen…
Someone is living in a bubble.
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Even after interracial marriage was made fully legal, interracial couples were abused. Laws don't make anyone safe.
Orlando was all about Islam, which Hillary fully supports. Hillary also takes money from Saudi and we all know how much they love gays.
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Black and gay and voting for Trump tomorrow.
Sorry. This is the united states. Entertainment capital of the world. It's always gonna be okay to be gay.
Plus I relate more to Trump. Hillary already had her chance.
It was perfectly fine to be gay when all those teens were beaten to death right? Orlando did never happen…
Someone is living in a bubble.
What happened in Orlando? I'm not from USA.
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Even after interracial marriage was made fully legal, interracial couples were abused. Laws don't make anyone safe.
Orlando was all about Islam, which Hillary fully supports. Hillary also takes money from Saudi and we all know how much they love gays.
Actually Saudi people have ALOT in common With southerners , Only different languages .
Still NOT ALL MUSLIMS fyi . -
Black and gay and voting for Trump tomorrow.
Sorry. This is the united states. Entertainment capital of the world. It's always gonna be okay to be gay.
Plus I relate more to Trump. Hillary already had her chance.
It was perfectly fine to be gay when all those teens were beaten to death right? Orlando did never happen…
Someone is living in a bubble.
What happened in Orlando? I'm not from USA.
A possibly bisexual/closeted gay/repressed straight Afghani American man who worked as a security guard walked into a gay club in Orlando, Florida, United States and with four automatic guns killed 50 gay men.
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Even after interracial marriage was made fully legal, interracial couples were abused. Laws don't make anyone safe.
Orlando was all about Islam, which Hillary fully supports. Hillary also takes money from Saudi and we all know how much they love gays.
I'm sorry, but this is one of the most stupid thing Trump's supporters kept saying while don't even look into the situation and check the facts.
Okay, Hillary took a donation from Saudi Arabia once. BUT what about Trump?
Trump has been doing business with Saudi Arabia for years. He has/had business deals in Saudi Arabia and he provided high profile clients/customers from Saudi Arabia, with services and goods from America.
The fuck-up thing is that since 9/11, he has been criticized them for terrorism acts, BUT has no problem of making tons of money from/with them.
And earlier time during the election, he even went to Saudi Arabia in one of his business trip.
And he has the balls to criticize Hillary about 1 donation?What you say about that?
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I don't support Trump. I hate both Trump and Hillary.
How do you justify that Saint Hillary took money from a country that would cut your f'ing head off?
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What happened in Orlando? I'm not from USA.
Allow me to give you the Reader's Digest version of what happened. A crazy man, who is believed to have ties with a Muslim terrorist organization (although I have not seen any proof of this) walked into the Pulse night club (a very well known gay bar) and opened fire with a an AR-15 assault riffle… Long story short, he was killed in the crossfire with the police, along with many innocent people, most of which were shot dead by the crazyman himself.
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Orlando was about hate, the very same hate that was fueled by this election…
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Yep Trump voter here,
I voted against the No Fly Zone in Syria, the fuckery of Libya, the geopolitcal chess in the ME, the TPP, companies suing governments, Wall Street regulating itself, using homeless and mentally people to start fights at Trump rallies and blaming it on him, soaking the populace in anti-Trump propaganda, dumb as bricks sjws, and finally rigging the primaries against my man Sanders. It fills me up with dark joy to see the millions in cash from hedge funds, pharmaceuticals, defence contractors, private prison lobby, Saudi Arabia be flushed down the drain.
There's only one thing I regret and that's the hate crimes against minorities and gay people by assholes who think Trump stands for them. But if the democrats wanted my vote they wouldn't have presented a raging dumpster fire of a candidate and told America to hop in.
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I don't support Trump. I hate both Trump and Hillary.
How do you justify that Saint Hillary took money from a country that would cut your f'ing head off?
An excellent question indeed but are you arguing that a moral compass be included when soliciting campaign funds from a donor or is it just the fact it was Saudi Arabia that is infuriating to you. I know I would be upset if I heard a Republican candidate was accepting campaign donations from people/groups linked to neonazi propoganda or something equally extremist. Maybe I'm too pragmatic but "dirty" money is always going to find a way into a candidate's coffers. Some are greater concealed than others and the true origins are never discovered by the opposition or the media.
Can I justify HRC's acceptance of funds. Not really. Certainly can be a candidate flaw, but I assessed it as a low risk issue and a grey area whereas it's a clear cut issue with no gray area to you. Either way no one is satisfied because we all have different levels of risk we tolerate.
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