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      alma
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      @raphjd:

      Even after interracial marriage was made fully legal, interracial couples were abused.   Laws don't make anyone safe.

      Orlando was all about Islam, which Hillary fully supports.  Hillary also takes money from Saudi and we all know how much they love gays.

      Actually Saudi people have ALOT in common With southerners , Only different languages .
      Still NOT ALL MUSLIMS fyi .

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      • DomosukeD Offline
        Domosuke
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        @tinci01:

        @myrea:

        @Domosuke:

        Black and gay and voting for Trump tomorrow.

        Sorry. This is the united states. Entertainment capital of the world. It's always gonna be okay to be gay.

        Plus I relate more to Trump. Hillary already had her chance.

        It was perfectly fine to be gay when all those teens were beaten to death right? Orlando did never happen…

        Someone is living in a bubble.

        What happened in Orlando? I'm not from USA.

        A possibly bisexual/closeted gay/repressed straight Afghani American man who worked as a security guard walked into a gay club in Orlando, Florida, United States and with four automatic guns killed 50 gay men.

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          herono00
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          @raphjd:

          Even after interracial marriage was made fully legal, interracial couples were abused.   Laws don't make anyone safe.

          Orlando was all about Islam, which Hillary fully supports.  Hillary also takes money from Saudi and we all know how much they love gays.

          I'm sorry, but this is one of the most stupid thing Trump's supporters kept saying while don't even look into the situation and check the facts.

          Okay, Hillary took a donation from Saudi Arabia once. BUT what about Trump?
          Trump has been doing business with Saudi Arabia for years. He has/had business deals in Saudi Arabia and he provided high profile clients/customers from Saudi Arabia, with services and goods from America.
          The fuck-up thing is that since 9/11, he has been criticized them for terrorism acts, BUT has no problem of making tons of money from/with them.
          And earlier time during the election, he even went to Saudi Arabia in one of his business trip.
          And he has the balls to criticize Hillary about 1 donation?

          What you say about that?

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          • raphjdR Offline
            raphjd Forum Administrator
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            I don't support Trump.  I hate both Trump and Hillary.

            How do you justify that Saint Hillary took money from a country that would cut your f'ing head off?

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            • MrMazdaM Offline
              MrMazda Global Moderator
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              @tinci01:

              What happened in Orlando? I'm not from USA.

              Allow me to give you the Reader's Digest version of what happened. A crazy man, who is believed to have ties with a Muslim terrorist organization (although I have not seen any proof of this) walked into the Pulse night club (a very well known gay bar) and opened fire with a an AR-15 assault riffle… Long story short, he was killed in the crossfire with the police, along with many innocent people, most of which were shot dead by the crazyman himself.

              Whap The User
              The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                myrea
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                Orlando was about hate, the very same hate that was fueled by this election…

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                  armpitwolf
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                  Yep Trump voter here,

                  I voted against the No Fly Zone in Syria, the fuckery of Libya, the geopolitcal chess in the ME, the TPP, companies suing governments, Wall Street regulating itself, using homeless and mentally people to start fights at Trump rallies and blaming it on him, soaking the populace in anti-Trump propaganda, dumb as bricks sjws, and finally rigging the primaries against my man Sanders. It fills me up with dark joy to see the millions in cash from hedge funds, pharmaceuticals, defence contractors, private prison lobby, Saudi Arabia be flushed down the drain.

                  There's only one thing I regret and that's the hate crimes against minorities and gay people by assholes who think Trump stands for them. But if the democrats wanted my vote they wouldn't have presented a raging dumpster fire of a candidate and told America to hop in.

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                    chiwut
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                    @raphjd:

                    I don't support Trump.  I hate both Trump and Hillary.

                    How do you justify that Saint Hillary took money from a country that would cut your f'ing head off?

                    An excellent question indeed but are you arguing that a moral compass be included when soliciting campaign funds from a donor or is it just the fact it was Saudi Arabia that is infuriating to you. I know I would be upset if I heard a Republican candidate was accepting campaign donations from people/groups linked to neonazi propoganda or something equally extremist. Maybe I'm too pragmatic but "dirty" money is always going to find a way into a candidate's coffers. Some are greater concealed than others and the true origins are never discovered by the opposition or the media.

                    Can I justify HRC's acceptance of funds. Not really. Certainly can be a candidate flaw, but I assessed it as a low risk issue and a grey area whereas it's a clear cut issue with no gray area to you. Either way no one is satisfied because we all have different levels of risk we tolerate.

                    Doh! Gotta be like Kyle and get off the soapbox and lay off the speeches! Yikes :)

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                    • raphjdR Offline
                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                      If you are claiming the moral high ground, as the patron saint of the victimized, then you CAN NOT be taking money from a country with one of the worst human rights records.

                      Like most SJWs, she is silent on the abuses in non-western countries.

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                        myrea
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                        The issue now isn't even Trump… it's his transitional team and what their egos bring with them. Guess what Trump most likely won't fix the war scenarios.

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                          amicusets
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                          @myrea:

                          @Domosuke:

                          Orlando did never happen…

                          Blame Orlando on a Muslim– Trump wants to try and figure out how to keep us safe from those radicalized terrorists.

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                            Rexicallitor
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                            @herono00:

                            @raphjd:

                            Even after interracial marriage was made fully legal, interracial couples were abused.   Laws don't make anyone safe.

                            Orlando was all about Islam, which Hillary fully supports.  Hillary also takes money from Saudi and we all know how much they love gays.

                            I'm sorry, but this is one of the most stupid thing Trump's supporters kept saying while don't even look into the situation and check the facts.

                            Okay, Hillary took a donation from Saudi Arabia once. BUT what about Trump?
                            Trump has been doing business with Saudi Arabia for years. He has/had business deals in Saudi Arabia and he provided high profile clients/customers from Saudi Arabia, with services and goods from America.
                            The fuck-up thing is that since 9/11, he has been criticized them for terrorism acts, BUT has no problem of making tons of money from/with them.
                            And earlier time during the election, he even went to Saudi Arabia in one of his business trip.
                            And he has the balls to criticize Hillary about 1 donation?

                            What you say about that?

                            Sure, I'll bite.

                            Hillary Clinton didn't JUST take ONE donation from Saudi Arabia.  She took several donations from Saudi Arabia while she was United States Senator of New York as well as Secretary of State.  She also took money from other countries of state-sponsored terror like Oman and Yemen.  This is a huge conflict of interest, considering at the time, money that was donated to her was accepted by the Clinton Foundation as a non-profit.  She also had the ability to (and did) oversee numerous arms deals with countries in the Middle East during her tenure.  The difference between Trump and Hillary in this respect, is that Trump was a private citizen at the time; not a public servant.

                            Providing "goods and services" is absolutely not the same as having the ability to affect the geo-political structure of other nations.  As a Democrat, accepting money freely, outside of a business transaction, in the name of charity from a government that chucks people from stone battlements and beheads them because they love the same sex, is a slap in the face for people around the world fighting for LGBT equality.

                            Currently, there are no sanctions or tariffs between Saudi Arabia and the United States.  As a businessperson, you would take advantage of this arrangement, allowed and protected by the United States government, to ensure your own profitability as well as the interests of your workers, and at the very least, your investors and stockholders, who more often than not, are the workforce itself.

                            In summation, Orlando happened because the overall majority of the current Left is more concerned about identity politics and feelings than public safety and basic economics.

                            Much respect.

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                              bob5678
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                              @Rexicallitor:

                              @herono00:

                              @raphjd:

                              Even after interracial marriage was made fully legal, interracial couples were abused.   Laws don't make anyone safe.

                              Orlando was all about Islam, which Hillary fully supports.  Hillary also takes money from Saudi and we all know how much they love gays.

                              I'm sorry, but this is one of the most stupid thing Trump's supporters kept saying while don't even look into the situation and check the facts.

                              Okay, Hillary took a donation from Saudi Arabia once. BUT what about Trump?
                              Trump has been doing business with Saudi Arabia for years. He has/had business deals in Saudi Arabia and he provided high profile clients/customers from Saudi Arabia, with services and goods from America.
                              The fuck-up thing is that since 9/11, he has been criticized them for terrorism acts, BUT has no problem of making tons of money from/with them.
                              And earlier time during the election, he even went to Saudi Arabia in one of his business trip.
                              And he has the balls to criticize Hillary about 1 donation?

                              What you say about that?

                              Sure, I'll bite.

                              Hillary Clinton didn't JUST take ONE donation from Saudi Arabia.  She took several donations from Saudi Arabia while she was United States Senator of New York as well as Secretary of State.  She also took money from other countries of state-sponsored terror like Oman and Yemen.  This is a huge conflict of interest, considering at the time, money that was donated to her was accepted by the Clinton Foundation as a non-profit.  She also had the ability to (and did) oversee numerous arms deals with countries in the Middle East during her tenure.  The difference between Trump and Hillary in this respect, is that Trump was a private citizen at the time; not a public servant.

                              Providing "goods and services" is absolutely not the same as having the ability to affect the geo-political structure of other nations.  As a Democrat, accepting money freely, outside of a business transaction, in the name of charity from a government that chucks people from stone battlements and beheads them because they love the same sex, is a slap in the face for people around the world fighting for LGBT equality.

                              Currently, there are no sanctions or tariffs between Saudi Arabia and the United States.  As a businessperson, you would take advantage of this arrangement, allowed and protected by the United States government, to ensure your own profitability as well as the interests of your workers, and at the very least, your investors and stockholders, who more often than not, are the workforce itself.

                              In summation, Orlando happened because the overall majority of the current Left is more concerned about identity politics and feelings than public safety and basic economics.

                              Much respect.

                              The donations weren't for personal enrichment. Everyone agrees and even the most ardent Hillary haters admit there is no evidence for it. All of the money that the Saudi's donated went directly to the Clinton Global Initiative which has saved millions of lives. I don't understand how you could argue against taking money away from a country that sponsors terrorism and use it to provide live-saving AIDS medications to people. PS this thread is about Trump not Hillary.

                              I also don't understand the "Islam is a threat to the LGBT community in America" argument because:
                              1. Christians have all the power in this country and have done more harm to the LGBT community than Muslims. (It was illegal to have gay sex in Republican states 13 years ago.)
                              2. Muslims in America are more tolerant of the LGBT community than Evangelical Protestants and Baptists.

                              Most LGBT people realize this. You obviously haven't and live in a bubble.

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                                myrea
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                                @amicusets:

                                @myrea:

                                @Domosuke:

                                Orlando did never happen…

                                Blame Orlando on a Muslim– Trump wants to try and figure out how to keep us safe from those radicalized terrorists.

                                I was not blaming orlando on Trump, I was giving an example of how safe america is for gays… guess what it wasn't and now it's even less, taking away rights gives validity to people who think you're below them...

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                                • raphjdR Offline
                                  raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                  @myrea:

                                  @amicusets:

                                  @myrea:

                                  @Domosuke:

                                  Orlando did never happen…

                                  Blame Orlando on a Muslim– Trump wants to try and figure out how to keep us safe from those radicalized terrorists.

                                  I was not blaming orlando on Trump, I was giving an example of how safe america is for gays… guess what it wasn't and now it's even less, taking away rights gives validity to people who think you're below them...

                                  As I pointed out with interracial marriage, laws do not protect you.  Interracial couples were being murdered, a decade after their marriage became legal across the US, by bigots.  I wouldn't doubt if it's still happening to some extent.

                                  Orlando was a radical gay hating muslim and no law would have prevented it.  Not a single law of the day prevented it.

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                                    alma
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                                    @raphjd:

                                    @myrea:

                                    @amicusets:

                                    @myrea:

                                    @Domosuke:

                                    Orlando did never happen…

                                    Blame Orlando on a Muslim– Trump wants to try and figure out how to keep us safe from those radicalized terrorists.

                                    I was not blaming orlando on Trump, I was giving an example of how safe america is for gays… guess what it wasn't and now it's even less, taking away rights gives validity to people who think you're below them...

                                    As I pointed out with interracial marriage, laws do not protect you.  Interracial couples were being murdered, a decade after their marriage became legal across the US, by bigots.   I wouldn't doubt if it's still happening to some extent.

                                    Orlando was a radical gay hating muslim and no law would have prevented it.  Not a single law of the day prevented it.

                                    IF laws do not protect them …. then what will ??

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                                    • raphjdR Offline
                                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                      Changing people's minds is more effective than laws.

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                                        aadam101
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                                        @raphjd:

                                        Hillary also takes money from Saudi and we all know how much they love gays.

                                        So what are your thoughts on Ivanka taking $100 million from the Saudis (4 times as much as Hillary took)???

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                                          royalcrown89
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                                          I wonder if some of the supporters in this thread now feel stupid for voting for someone who conned them. A lot of the replies in this thread are from before he was elected and sworn in. Now that he's president and has turned against 98% of what he ran on, do you still support him or are you willing to admit you were conned? The election is over so if your only response is to bring up Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama then you'll be automatically admitting you have no real defense for our current incompetent president and that you are spineless and simply cannot admit that you were conned by an orange-skinned businessman with strange hair.

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                                          • FrederickF Offline
                                            Frederick
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                                            @royalcrown89:

                                            I wonder if some of the supporters in this thread now feel stupid for voting for someone who conned them.

                                            What difference does it make?  Hillary lost anyway.  Don't feel bad.  You can't help it that you were conned.

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