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    • R Offline
      rudolph
      last edited by

      I find when wearing a condom it just doesn't feel the same - no matter how thin the dom - I prefer natural raw bareback sex whether giving or taking. I'm concerned about HIV and other STDs but I don't just sleep with anyone I meet - I have to get to know them first

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      • K Offline
        KaiX
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        Condoms first. If I'm in a steady relationship bare all the way  😉

        I would still get checked maybe once a year even if I'm in a steady relationship because it's healthy to do so. (and to find out if he's cheating on me)  :afr2:  :cry2:

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          packman79
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          hmmm tough question…. a random never see each other again then def not bareback but a regular FB then definitely prefer BB as with everything there is risks.... even playing it safe there is risks admit not as many but still some form of risk.

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            alucard6666
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            I love bareback but I only do it with my partner.

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            • MrMazdaM Offline
              MrMazda Global Moderator
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              I bareback exclusively… I'm not particularly worried about HIV though because hey..... you can only catch it once, right?  :hehe:

              Just a heads up to the people who have expressed that they are concerned with the risk of contracting HIV. It's a scientifically proven fact that having unprotected sex to completion (as a top or bottom) with a partner who is HIV+ and maintains an undetectable viral load is actually safer than engaging in any penetrative sexual activity with a partner who is HIV+ and has a high viral load, even with a condom. Believe it or not, there has yet to be so much as one confirmed case of an HIV+ individual with an undetectable viral load ever passing the virus onto another partner, despite the number of studies that have been done to attempt to quantify the risk.

              So... Keep in mind that the vast majority of persons who are HIV+ are on the meds and as such, effectively maintain an undetectable viral load... Don't get me wrong though, I'm not trying to pressure anyone into anything by making this point. I believe in a person's right to choose what is right for them, and that in doing so, they should have the right to make that decision while properly armed with all the pertinent facts. All that I'm saying here is that the fear and stigma behind HIV at this day and age is pretty much unfounded. Unlike 1986 when the problem was at its all time worst, HIV is no longer something that needs to be feared. In fact, thanks to the advances in medicine in particular, the general risk of contraction at this day and age is nowhere near what it used to be back in the day. This is largely due to the fact that the majority of cases now a days within North America in particular are cases where they're on the meds and undetectable..... This is part of the reason why I bareback.

              Whap The User
              The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                hhsq
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                @MrMazda:

                I'm not particularly worried about HIV though because hey….. you can only catch it once, right?  :hehe:

                Not exactly… you can catch a different subtype of virus (reinfection) and risk yourself to a mutation that might make your medication less effective - in the most extreme cases leading for a change in medication, though there are a limited number of medications for HIV, so the more your virus mutates the less chance of an effective treatment you have.
                It's a sad thing... but the safest thing to do is, alas, sticking to safe-sex if you want to whore around or find a fixed partner/boyfriend/etc. or a small group of people to have unprotected sex with.

                http://hotgayfuzz.tumblr.com/

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                  looking803
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                  Definitely prefer a condomless experience.  Unfortunately trust is a problem initially so condom-only in the beginning.  I met up with a guy at a local hotel once.  We both required condoms.  We had a good time and spent more time together than either planned.  He started getting hot, I was out of condoms but he wanted me in him.  I had only the slightest temptation but told him we would have to save it for another day.  Though I am sure we both felt both were ok, it was just a risk I wasn't going to take.  Trust and testing.

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                  • MrMazdaM Offline
                    MrMazda Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    @hhsq:

                    @MrMazda:

                    I'm not particularly worried about HIV though because hey….. you can only catch it once, right?  :hehe:

                    Not exactly… you can catch a different subtype of virus (reinfection) and risk yourself to a mutation that might make your medication less effective - in the most extreme cases leading for a change in medication, though there are a limited number of medications for HIV, so the more your virus mutates the less chance of an effective treatment you have.

                    True in theory, except there's a small flaw to the theory that science is proving. Many more recent studies have been done to attempt to derive a calculated risk for contraction of HIV, specifically focusing on gay sex. The interesting thing is that every study came up empty handed when it came to unprotected sex with a partner who is HIV+ with an undetectable viral load. The interesting thing is that the vast majority of people who are HIV+ within North America are on the meds, and because of the more modern meds, maintain an undetectable viral load. So… The general risk of contraction in general is lower regardless of whether you're dealing with one HIV+ and one HIV- partner or two HIV+ partners....

                    Whap The User
                    The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                      yinjustin
                      last edited by

                      Personally, I am not sure if bottoms would enjoy it as much as tops do because I experienced both and I didn't feel much difference when I was barebacked accidentally.

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                        danijelr15
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                        Bareback is the only way to fuck.

                        On another note, there is no 100% safe sex. If you want to be 100% safe, then stop having sex.

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                        • T Offline
                          ttwww
                          last edited by

                          only with trustworthy partner

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                            hhsq
                            last edited by

                            @danijelr15:

                            If you want to be 100% safe, then stop having sex.

                            ^ Unfortunatelly, that's an absolute truth…  😞

                            http://hotgayfuzz.tumblr.com/

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                            • gaypraha2G Offline
                              gaypraha2
                              last edited by

                              Quote from: : danijelr15 on Yesterday at 09:27:20 am

                              If you want to be 100% safe, then stop having sex.

                              ^ Unfortunatelly, that's an absolute truth…  Sad

                              Even then shit can happen : Mary got pregnant without even touching a dick  :cheesy2:

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                              • W Offline
                                wesleyrayne
                                last edited by

                                i love bareback so much as a top. but yes getting tested is so important for both parties

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                                  Dolmance
                                  last edited by

                                  @Alejandro88:

                                  Do you like bareback? Doesn't care about risks with HIV?

                                  I like it really much, and I care about HIV. So I do rarely bareback, only with certificate partner.  :blownose:

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                                  • MrMazdaM Offline
                                    MrMazda Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @gaypraha2:

                                    Quote from: : danijelr15 on Yesterday at 09:27:20 am

                                    If you want to be 100% safe, then stop having sex.

                                    ^ Unfortunatelly, that's an absolute truth…  Sad

                                    Even then shit can happen : Mary got pregnant without even touching a dick  :cheesy2:

                                    Yes well…. The bible is not exactly a book of treasures..... It's a book where a guy comes back from the dead, snakes talk, a guy walks on water, and a virgin has a baby.... It seems a little "far fetched" to me :hehe:

                                    Whap The User
                                    The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                                      fuckall
                                      last edited by

                                      bareback when with a healthy partner(which is always)

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                                        spam17
                                        last edited by

                                        @fuckall:

                                        bareback when with a healthy partner(which is always)

                                        As healthy as you know at least..

                                        ???

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                                          rydeguy
                                          last edited by

                                          @MrMazda:

                                          I bareback exclusively… I'm not particularly worried about HIV though because hey..... you can only catch it once, right?  :hehe:

                                          Just a heads up to the people who have expressed that they are concerned with the risk of contracting HIV. It's a scientifically proven fact that having unprotected sex to completion (as a top or bottom) with a partner who is HIV+ and maintains an undetectable viral load is actually safer than engaging in any penetrative sexual activity with a partner who is HIV+ and has a high viral load, even with a condom. Believe it or not, there has yet to be so much as one confirmed case of an HIV+ individual with an undetectable viral load ever passing the virus onto another partner, despite the number of studies that have been done to attempt to quantify the risk.

                                          So... Keep in mind that the vast majority of persons who are HIV+ are on the meds and as such, effectively maintain an undetectable viral load... Don't get me wrong though, I'm not trying to pressure anyone into anything by making this point. I believe in a person's right to choose what is right for them, and that in doing so, they should have the right to make that decision while properly armed with all the pertinent facts. All that I'm saying here is that the fear and stigma behind HIV at this day and age is pretty much unfounded. Unlike 1986 when the problem was at its all time worst, HIV is no longer something that needs to be feared. In fact, thanks to the advances in medicine in particular, the general risk of contraction at this day and age is nowhere near what it used to be back in the day. This is largely due to the fact that the majority of cases now a days within North America in particular are cases where they're on the meds and undetectable..... This is part of the reason why I bareback.

                                          Thank you for your post, it's the first educated non judgemental full of stigma and fear response I've seen.  To further quantify what you've stated knowing the facts is key, getting yourself regularly tested is also essential so you can police your own sexual health, and can we in the gay community stop using hurtful language to describe those within our community living with hiv, it's not a death sentence, we're living healthy satisfying lives, and anyone using the term "clean" need to be read the riot act.

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                                          • everymanE Offline
                                            everyman
                                            last edited by

                                            As I am 95% bottom I let it up to the top what they want to do about a condom. I just like the experience better bareback.  I get tested every 6 months and am neg.

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