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    • M Offline
      mitchymo
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      @kwyjibo:

      @mitchymo:

      Bestdeaths is not so much gay interest, as wannabe serial killer interest imo. If you read their 'about' page, they tell you nothing at all about WHY they do what they do. That ambiguity is disconcerting.
      If they said it was to help young actors practice their acting, or to provide horror movie directors with material, i could get it, but they don't say why.
      Who gets off on watching guys being fake killed except maybe guys who actually think about doing it. Disturbing.

      That's just silly. Would you rather have them sated by wanking to fiction, or would you rather they have no outlet and go out experimenting on people? Are you suggesting that people who enjoy watching Clive Barker's erotic horror movies will go out and do that to people? I'm pretty sure they don't. They just enjoy the movies.

      No outlet? Are you kidding me? If someone is having thoughts, getting off on killing somebody, they need psychiatric help, not a website to fuel their desires. You can argue the case that providing an outlet helps to satisfy their desire so that they don't engage for real, but there are two problems with this. One is, that criminal psychologists generally support (though are divided based on lack of hard data) the idea that ramping up the content available, pushes the boundaries to a new point, where some people will need more than what is available to satisfy their desire. In this regard, having a boundary where their desire is kept low, such as seeing a guy strangled in a mainstream action movie, is much safer for society than having them enjoy an outlet purely focused on the killing, however fictional it is. The second point is, that we all know that most people don't act on the content that is portrayed in the media in relation to violent acts, and that it is the psychopaths in society most likely to do that. This gets to the very nub of the problem with the Bestdeaths website, that is, that you would have to be pretty pschopathic to be interested in such a thing. So this site isn't merely satisfying peoples curiosities, as it is encouraging psychos desirabilities.
      It is very controversial as to whether such material actually helps or hinders. I believe it hinders. Do you think that a website which shows realistic computer generated images of children, in naked sexual contexts, is going to help satisfy the desire of a peadophile, or fuel it? The Norwegians proposed such a website. Very controversial. It likely would depend on the psyhopathy of the paedophile as to whether such content would satisfy or fuel their desires, with predatory peados being the fueled psychos.
      Somebody with an interest in watching guys (or gals) being killed, is highly unlikely NOT to be a psychopath, so it stands to logical reason, that they would be fueled, not satisfied.

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      • gaypraha2G Offline
        gaypraha2
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        Somebody with an interest in watching guys (or gals) being killed, is highly unlikely NOT to be a psychopath

        waoww then we'v got a serious problems coz millions of people around the world watched the "Saw" movie franchise… :cheesy2:

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          mitchymo
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          @gaypraha2:

          Somebody with an interest in watching guys (or gals) being killed, is highly unlikely NOT to be a psychopath

          waoww then we'v got a serious problems coz millions of people around the world watched the "Saw" movie franchise… :cheesy2:

          Lol.  :cheesy2:

          Not quite the same, but funny.

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            bobbert
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            Urgh hate those videos

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            • raphjdR Offline
              raphjd Forum Administrator
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              Unlike murder porn, mainstream entertainment does not sexualize killing.

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                myrea
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                And that is all, comparing murder porn to something like Saw is losing all the subtext… the thing with other erotic fetishes is they do not KILL someone, so whatever... the thing with snuff be it real or fake is that the rules in here clearly forbid it, and for whatever reason right now fake is allowed. And yeah it might feel like me acting as your parent maybe you need it. Maybe sometimes someone needs to tell people where the limit is, maybe someone who already saw people die in this context... ever thinked about that, about that this actually happens? Ever cared about the family of the boy beaten up, remember the death faces... of the last years, because I do and that is why this besides disturbing is offensive.

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                  AdamCrest
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                  Each to their own.
                  BestDeaths isn't my cup of tea, but oh well.

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                  • MrMazdaM Offline
                    MrMazda Global Moderator
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                    It's far too fake to even peak my curiosity frankly

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                      jimmy7
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                      @raphjd:

                      Unlike murder porn, mainstream entertainment does not sexualize killing.

                      Are you serious? If it doesn't sexualize killing why is it always young and attractive actor? All David Decoteau movie are about
                      shirtless hot guys walking around and being killed… I just suggest you to watch the TV Show ''The Fall'' with Jami Dornan and tell me if you still think it doesn't sexualize killing...

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                      • raphjdR Offline
                        raphjd Forum Administrator
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                        David Decoteau isn't mainstream. His movies are niche, at best.

                        I haven't seen "The Fall".  HOWEVER, even if you are right about that, it's only one of millions of mainstream tv/movies.  Sex in a show/movie where death is part of the plot doesn't mean that death is sexualized.

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                          tomtom21
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                          Having killing as the central focus, and only real selling point, of material that is meant to sexually stimulate and nothing else, is OBVIOUSLY very very dubious indeed … How you could argue against that sensibly is beyond me !!! ... I have not seen any of the films so I cannot comment on anything but the concept ... And the concept IS dangerous ... Theres no way around it ... I don't believe in censorship but I'm amazed whoever is making this stuff hasn't had a visit from the authorities ... I don't know ... Perhaps its so bad its funny, I don't want to watch any of it to find out ... But anyone who gets off on watching people get killed ( fake or not ) has issues that are going to lead to trouble ( accidentally or not ) or mental problems in later life, if their interest has been brought on by childhood experiences in wartime or something similar

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                          • raphjdR Offline
                            raphjd Forum Administrator
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                            The "acting" in BestDeaths is sooooo bad that it's more comical that anything else.    This why we allow it.    If the acting were better, we might consider banning it.

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                              gaypraha2
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                              Dear admin, you & other moderator have explained that countless times, dont you think it's time to lock this thread as the OP was answered , still they seem to repeat themselves again and again, not reading what was previously said..? ( just my 2cents..).. Besides if the point is to discuss "snuff" movies then there are special thread about it like this one : https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=38933.0 , as this thread is about "bestdeaths" not snuff in general.

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                              • MrMazdaM Offline
                                MrMazda Global Moderator
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                                @gaypraha2: While I completely understand your point of view on the subject, there technically has not been any breach of the rules by this topic continuing to grow. As a general rule, we only lock threads when there's a breach of the rules. This gives all users a fair chance to reply to just about every thread that has ever been, with some exceptions.

                                As I was writing this, I just thought of a great suggestion for the site features and requests section… In the forum software, there is an option to ignore certain forum boards. Wouldn't it be great if there were a way to be able to click on an individual forum thread, then when discovering that it's not a thread that you're interested in, click a button somewhere to make that entire thread just disappear to you?

                                On that note, wouldn't it be great if when you decide that you no longer wish to see any content posted by a particular user, you could click a little button somewhere in the post (like in the bottom corner) to mute all forum posts from that user? This would add an extra layer of privacy for some users who just do not want to hear from a particular user anywhere in the forum, rather than having to ignore the entire forum thread.

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                                The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                                • gaypraha2G Offline
                                  gaypraha2
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                                  click a button somewhere to make that entire thread just disappear to you?

                                  +1 🙂

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                                  • raphjdR Offline
                                    raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                    This is the final reply to this thread.

                                    Best Deaths follow ALL legal requirements of the EU, US and Canada.  I'm sure they are fine in many other countries as well.

                                    The "acting" in their videos are so bad that it's more comical than anything else.  Dead people do not get erections and orgasms, nor do they make "cum faces".

                                    Based on this, we will not be removing their videos, unless something drastic changes.

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                                    If you find something that you feel crosses the line of basic decency, use the REPORT button on that page.

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