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    • B Offline
      bendoon
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      Wow Praha2 this is a u turn for you(will explain at the end)
      My sex life is far from boring and judging by your comments nothing should be banned,so what are your views on child porn or beastiallity?
      You seem to have completely missed my point that videos can influence people  2 cases are:-
      1 A guy sat telling us about a video he had watched the night before don't know if it was child porn he just said a young lad. The lad was being raped screaming and crying,but I have never forgotton the look in the guys eyes or the fact he was groping his cock when he said screaming and CRYING, it was the crying bit that turned him on most. This guy is now in jail for raping a school boy.
      I am not taking a moral stance on this I was 14 when I first started having sex with older men, but it was what I wanted I wasn't forced.

      2 When I was a teenager there was a young guy going around cutting cocks. He would go into a cottage(toilet) and when a cock came through the hole he would cut it with a craft knife [ I was one of his victims ] in one case he stuck a knitting kneedle through the cock so they couldn't get it out of the hole. He picked up a drunk student and went back to his house when the student had passed out he almost cut the poor lads cock off,luckilly the lad woke up and managed to fight him off. In court the guy said he had been influenced by some horror movie.[this was in the 70s and because it was only gays he was attacking he got 18 months]
      I am not into BDSM or scat but they are not harming anyone but themselves, so its not for me to say they shouldn't do it.
      What worried me about the bestdeaths videos was the fact that anyone could find the thought of killing a turn on simulated or not.

      your u turn: was from your answer to my video request:-
      my request
      Hi guys can anyone help to find this video I saw in a club in Prague about 10yrs ago.
      In one scene there were 3 or 4 young guys laid on a bench with legs in the air and at the same time they all squirted water from their arses. In another scene a guy had a large bunch of bananas he peeled and stuck up his arse and then pushed them back out. I know its a big ask but someone may remember this

      your reply
      been cruising in many clubs in praha, yet , thank god, never saw such a thing  :afr2:

      BUT you think its ok to wank over killing somebody?!!!

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        kwyjibo
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        @myrea:

        Simulated or not, why are we allowing this to turn into eroticism? Don't we have enough problems already with people being killed for real, now we are allowing it to be eroticized? Don't you see how banalization of violence is our worst enemy?

        Uhh. If you don't like it, don't download it. How hard is that? Why do you want to prevent someone else from doing it? Are you their parent?

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        • gaypraha2G Offline
          gaypraha2
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          my dear bendonn you just dont get it do you…
          you act like those who are against homosexuality and you just dont even realize it.
          I was sure of it : immediately it comes to pedophilia.. like Poutine, saying all gays are pedophile and goes to the monstrosity of saying in public very seriously to gays " please don't approach our  kids"...  what's pedophilia have to do with "role playing" made by consenting adults that are sexually aroused by that..
          As you said you never watched any of the video we are talking about, therefore why the hell are you talking about criminal snuff videos??!! not the subject at all..
          Then again you point 2 or 3 crazy guys who supposedly act upon seeing things on videos.. same arguments used by crazy radicals to forbid video games because some nut job killed kids in school. Yes they are crazy guys in our societies, we can't restrict the liberties of the majority because of 0.1% of crazy who would have been killers, rapist or terrorist anyway.
          "What worried me about the bestdeaths videos was the fact that anyone could find the thought of killing a turn on simulated or not.
          " then we must ban all horror movies : we all watch that because it's so fun and we enjoy watching poor bitch dying in atrocious ways.
          Are you a kid to not understand the difference between acting and reality?
          concerning your last point.. I dont see what "U turn" you are talking about... Did I asked for the ban of guys putting what the hell they want in their ass? No.. I just said I'm glad I didnt saw that, my personal opinion and taste, and I would certainly not deny to others the joy they have to see that kind of stuff if they like it.
          If here someone would complain about scat videos and asking to ban them all, I would react the same even though I never watched any nor will ever watch one. I'm sorry in my country Liberty is the base of it all. Kids at 5 play cowboys and pretend to kill each other. should we forbid that too?...

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            jetboard
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            With all the fetishes…. i mean your not wrong but your not right either i mean we have video games, movies, books.... music that glorifies death. But yeah this is humanity, some of these fetishes gross me out too, is their a censor system?

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              cannonmc
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              @jetboard:

              …is their a censor system?

              You see that little box at the very top over on the right, the one with the little 'x' in…

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                Natakote
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                Not the fan of it, but to each their own…  :blink:

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                  deludeddonny
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                  This is why I absolutely love this site over the others, a proper discussion on these matters can be had without people shouting swearing and trolling. I love gaytorrents.ru! Keep up the great work guys!

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                    kwyjibo
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                    @jetboard:

                    some of these fetishes gross me out too, is their a censor system?

                    To whom would you give the power to determine what you're allowed to read or view? Why would you give that kind of power to someone?

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                      mitchymo
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                      Bestdeaths is not so much gay interest, as wannabe serial killer interest imo. If you read their 'about' page, they tell you nothing at all about WHY they do what they do. That ambiguity is disconcerting.
                      If they said it was to help young actors practice their acting, or to provide horror movie directors with material, i could get it, but they don't say why.
                      Who gets off on watching guys being fake killed except maybe guys who actually think about doing it. Disturbing.

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                        kwyjibo
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                        @mitchymo:

                        Bestdeaths is not so much gay interest, as wannabe serial killer interest imo. If you read their 'about' page, they tell you nothing at all about WHY they do what they do. That ambiguity is disconcerting.
                        If they said it was to help young actors practice their acting, or to provide horror movie directors with material, i could get it, but they don't say why.
                        Who gets off on watching guys being fake killed except maybe guys who actually think about doing it. Disturbing.

                        That's just silly. Would you rather have them sated by wanking to fiction, or would you rather they have no outlet and go out experimenting on people? Are you suggesting that people who enjoy watching Clive Barker's erotic horror movies will go out and do that to people? I'm pretty sure they don't. They just enjoy the movies.

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                          mitchymo
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                          @kwyjibo:

                          @mitchymo:

                          Bestdeaths is not so much gay interest, as wannabe serial killer interest imo. If you read their 'about' page, they tell you nothing at all about WHY they do what they do. That ambiguity is disconcerting.
                          If they said it was to help young actors practice their acting, or to provide horror movie directors with material, i could get it, but they don't say why.
                          Who gets off on watching guys being fake killed except maybe guys who actually think about doing it. Disturbing.

                          That's just silly. Would you rather have them sated by wanking to fiction, or would you rather they have no outlet and go out experimenting on people? Are you suggesting that people who enjoy watching Clive Barker's erotic horror movies will go out and do that to people? I'm pretty sure they don't. They just enjoy the movies.

                          No outlet? Are you kidding me? If someone is having thoughts, getting off on killing somebody, they need psychiatric help, not a website to fuel their desires. You can argue the case that providing an outlet helps to satisfy their desire so that they don't engage for real, but there are two problems with this. One is, that criminal psychologists generally support (though are divided based on lack of hard data) the idea that ramping up the content available, pushes the boundaries to a new point, where some people will need more than what is available to satisfy their desire. In this regard, having a boundary where their desire is kept low, such as seeing a guy strangled in a mainstream action movie, is much safer for society than having them enjoy an outlet purely focused on the killing, however fictional it is. The second point is, that we all know that most people don't act on the content that is portrayed in the media in relation to violent acts, and that it is the psychopaths in society most likely to do that. This gets to the very nub of the problem with the Bestdeaths website, that is, that you would have to be pretty pschopathic to be interested in such a thing. So this site isn't merely satisfying peoples curiosities, as it is encouraging psychos desirabilities.
                          It is very controversial as to whether such material actually helps or hinders. I believe it hinders. Do you think that a website which shows realistic computer generated images of children, in naked sexual contexts, is going to help satisfy the desire of a peadophile, or fuel it? The Norwegians proposed such a website. Very controversial. It likely would depend on the psyhopathy of the paedophile as to whether such content would satisfy or fuel their desires, with predatory peados being the fueled psychos.
                          Somebody with an interest in watching guys (or gals) being killed, is highly unlikely NOT to be a psychopath, so it stands to logical reason, that they would be fueled, not satisfied.

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                            gaypraha2
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                            Somebody with an interest in watching guys (or gals) being killed, is highly unlikely NOT to be a psychopath

                            waoww then we'v got a serious problems coz millions of people around the world watched the "Saw" movie franchise… :cheesy2:

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                              mitchymo
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                              @gaypraha2:

                              Somebody with an interest in watching guys (or gals) being killed, is highly unlikely NOT to be a psychopath

                              waoww then we'v got a serious problems coz millions of people around the world watched the "Saw" movie franchise… :cheesy2:

                              Lol.  :cheesy2:

                              Not quite the same, but funny.

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                                bobbert
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                                Urgh hate those videos

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                                • raphjdR Offline
                                  raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                  Unlike murder porn, mainstream entertainment does not sexualize killing.

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                                    myrea
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                                    And that is all, comparing murder porn to something like Saw is losing all the subtext… the thing with other erotic fetishes is they do not KILL someone, so whatever... the thing with snuff be it real or fake is that the rules in here clearly forbid it, and for whatever reason right now fake is allowed. And yeah it might feel like me acting as your parent maybe you need it. Maybe sometimes someone needs to tell people where the limit is, maybe someone who already saw people die in this context... ever thinked about that, about that this actually happens? Ever cared about the family of the boy beaten up, remember the death faces... of the last years, because I do and that is why this besides disturbing is offensive.

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                                      AdamCrest
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                                      Each to their own.
                                      BestDeaths isn't my cup of tea, but oh well.

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                                      • MrMazdaM Offline
                                        MrMazda Global Moderator
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                                        It's far too fake to even peak my curiosity frankly

                                        Whap The User
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                                          jimmy7
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                                          @raphjd:

                                          Unlike murder porn, mainstream entertainment does not sexualize killing.

                                          Are you serious? If it doesn't sexualize killing why is it always young and attractive actor? All David Decoteau movie are about
                                          shirtless hot guys walking around and being killed… I just suggest you to watch the TV Show ''The Fall'' with Jami Dornan and tell me if you still think it doesn't sexualize killing...

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                                          • raphjdR Offline
                                            raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                            David Decoteau isn't mainstream. His movies are niche, at best.

                                            I haven't seen "The Fall".  HOWEVER, even if you are right about that, it's only one of millions of mainstream tv/movies.  Sex in a show/movie where death is part of the plot doesn't mean that death is sexualized.

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